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07-25-2009, 10:25 AM
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Since the tournament is close their shouldn't the rosters be set?
Well, the rosters aren´t really set yet. If you want you can follow the tournament n English here on IHF. You´ll find the rosters for the other teams there.

As for Finland´s roster, Tormentor has posted it.
I´m not sure about all countries, but the Slovak roster won´t be totally set till after an exhibition game against an Extraliga team this Wednesday. Likewise the Czechs have a training camp right now that ends on Wednesday as well and it will be decided which from the 34 invited players are going. Switzerland have a training camp in Belarus right now in which they play 3 games against Belarus U20, so I imagine they will decide after this games as well. No clue about Germany. If that is what you were asking....

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Well, the rosters aren´t really set yet. If you want you can follow the tournament n English here on IHF. You´ll find the rosters for the other teams there.

As for Finland´s roster, Tormentor has posted it.
I´m not sure about all countries, but the Slovak roster won´t be totally set till after an exhibition game against an Extraliga team this Wednesday. Likewise the Czechs have a training camp right now that ends on Wednesday as well and it will be decided which from the 34 invited players are going. Switzerland have a training camp in Belarus right now in which they play 3 games against Belarus U20, so I imagine they will decide after this games as well. No clue about Germany. If that is what you were asking....
Yes, thank you for tyhe link.

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Not sure about Granlund but Teemu Pulkkinen is still injured what I've heard.
According to one Jatkoaika.com poster, Pulkkinen practiced normally playing on the wing of Janne Hauhtonen (which would imply that he'd play on the 2nd or 3rd line for Jokerit).

Granlund is still recovering from the shoulder surgery (as per last week's Kiekkolehti) but should be fit to play in September. Him and Pulkkinen probably won't play for the U-18 team until Spring as they'll play during the fall for the U-20 team.

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First match of the season (05-AUG-2009): Finland - Switzerland (3 - 2)

06:27 1:0 Toni Rajala (Teemu Pulkkinen, Veli-Matti Vittasmäki) PP1
13:15 2:0 Eero Elo (Joonas Nättinen, Teemu Hartikainen)
16:07 3:0 Joonas Nättinen (Eero Elo, Teemu Hartikainen) PP1
34:38 3:1 Sven Ryser (Mauro Jörg) PP1
50:53 3:2 Nino Niederreiter (Pascal Gemperli, Dominik Schlumpf) PP2

Shots: 34 : 18
Saves: 16 : 31
Penalty minutes: 14 : 16

Line-up
Petteri Similä GK
Joni Ortio GK
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Sami Vatanen RD
Veli-Matti Vittasmäki LD
Teemu Pulkkinen RW
Matias Myttynen CE
Toni Rajala LW
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Kristian Näkyvä RD
Santeri Alatalo LD
Eero Elo RW
Joonas Nättinen CE
Teemu Hartikainen LW
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Mikko Niemelä RD
Tommi Kivistö LD
Joonas Rask RW
Jani Lajunen CE
Matias Sointu LW
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Erik Haula (F)
Nico Manelius D
Martin Tuominen RW
Jani-Petteri Helenius CE
Ilmari Pitkänen LW

- Petteri Similä was the netminder for Team Finland (16 saves).
- Eero Elo had 8 shots on goal, Joonas Nättinen was second best with 4 shots.


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Toni Rajala injured his knee in the game as well, he's done for the tournament: http://www.finhockey.fi/taustasivut/...to/?num=419612

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Toni Rajala injured his knee in the game as well, he's done for the tournament: http://www.finhockey.fi/taustasivut/...to/?num=419612
Too bad, that sucks for him.....

Any word on how long he´s gonna be out?

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Damn I hope he's ok.

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Too bad, that sucks for him.....

Any word on how long he´s gonna be out?
No, only that he's out for the tournament.

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08-06-2009, 10:12 AM
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Live scoring for todays U20 GER-FIN match
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Second match of the tournament (06-AUG-2009): Germany - Finland (3 - 4) PS

03:16 0:1 Mikko Niemelä (Joonas Rask, Jani Lajunen) PP1
17:03 0:2 Sami Vatanen (Teemu Pulkkinen, Matias Myttynen) PP1
25:58 1:2 Florian Engel (Florian Strobl, Benedikt Brückner)
40:31 1:3 Eero Elo (Matias Sointu)
45:35 2:3 Simon Fischhaber (Laurin Braun, Dominik Bielke)
47:47 3:3 Benedikt Brückner (Simon Fischhaber, Florian Engel)
65:00 3:4 Joonas Nättinen GWS

Shots: 34 : 36
Saves: 32 : 31
Penalty minutes: 20 : 10

- Ortio was the netminder for Team Finland with 31 saves.
- All three shooters from Finland scored in the penalty shootout; Pulkkinen, Nättinen and Vatanen.

Line-up:
Sointu - Myttynen - Pulkkinen
Hartikainen - Nättinen - Elo
Haula - Lajunen - Rask
Pitkänen - Helenius - Tuominen

Vittasmäki - Vatanen
Alatalo - Näkyvä
Kivistö - Niemelä
Manelius

Ortio
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03:16 0:1 Mikko Niemelä (Joonas Rask, Jani Lajunen) PP1
17:03 0:2 Sami Vatanen (Teemu Pulkkinen, Matias Myttynen) PP1
25:58 1:2 Florian Engel (Florian Strobl, Benedikt Brückner)
40:31 1:3 Eero Elo (Matias Sointu)
45:35 2:3 Simon Fischhaber (Laurin Braun, Dominik Bielke)
47:47 3:3 Benedikt Brückner (Simon Fischhaber, Florian Engel)
65:00 3:4 Joonas Nättinen GWS

Shots: 33 : 25
Saves: 22 : 30
Penalty minutes: 20 : 10

- Ortio was the netminder for Team Finland with 30 saves.
- All three shooters from Finland scored in the penalty shootout; Pulkkinen, Nättinen and Vatanen.

Line-up:
Sointu - Myttynen - Pulkkinen
Hartikainen - Nättinen - Elo
Haula - Lajunen - Rask
Pitkänen - Helenius - Tuominen

Vittasmäki - Vatanen
Alatalo - Näkyvä
Kivistö - Niemelä
Manelius

Ortio
Similä
It says the shots were 34:36 (12:10,8:10,13:10,1:5) now , they´ve must have corrected it on the szlh webpage, this same occured yesterday after the SVK-CZE game, they wrote the shots wrong first and later corrected it.

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I thought you might be interested, they have a short video from the FIN-GER game on here.

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I thought you might be interested, they have a short video from the FIN-GER game on here.
You thought he'd be interested in Germany scoring 3 regular time goals against Finland.

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Seems that Elo is doing fine in a scoring line role despite the doubts.

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3rd match of the tournament (08-AUG-2009): Czech Republic - Finland (4 - 3) OT

04:52 0:1 Sami Vatanen (Veli-Matti Vittasmäki, Teemu Pulkkinen) PP1
15:07 1:1 Radko Gudas (Milan Doczy, Dominik Pacovský) PP2
26:15 1:2 Matias Sointu (Sami Vatanen, Matias Myttynen) PP1
26:43 2:2 Štěpán Novotný (Andrej Nestrašil, Michal Jordan)
28:41 3:2 Dominik Pacovský (Milan Doczy, LukᚠRadil)
50:12 3:3 Teemu Hartikainen (Sami Vatanen, Veli-Matti Vittasmäki) PP1
62:33 4:3 Radko Gudas (Milan Doczy)

Shots: 31 : 29
Saves: 26 : 27
Penalty minutes: 26 : 20

- Similä was the netminder for Team Finland with 27 saves.

Line-up:
Pulkkinen - Lajunen - Rask
Hartikainen - Nättinen - Tuominen
Sointu - Myttynen - Elo
Pitkänen - Helenius - Haula

Manelius - Niemelä
Vittasmäki - Näkyvä
Kivistö - Vatanen
Alatalo

Similä
Ortio

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3-0 Cze at even strength. Although the shots on goal seem fairly even. Was that indicative of the level of play or did Finland have defensive or goaltending break downs? And did the Finns have many scoring chances at even strength?

How strong is this Czech squad?

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04:52 0:1 Sami Vatanen (Veli-Matti Vittasmäki, Teemu Pulkkinen) PP1
15:07 1:1 Radko Gudas (Milan Doczy, Dominik Pacovský) PP2
26:15 1:2 Matias Sointu (Sami Vatanen, Matias Myttynen) PP1
26:43 2:2 Štěpán Novotný (Andrej Nestrašil, Michal Jordan)
28:41 3:2 Dominik Pacovský (Milan Doczy, LukᚠRadil)
50:12 3:3 Teemu Hartikainen (Sami Vatanen, Veli-Matti Vittasmäki) PP1
62:33 4:3 Radko Gudas (Milan Doczy)

Shots: 31 : 29
Saves: 26 : 27
Penalty minutes: 26 : 20

- Similä was the netminder for Team Finland with 27 saves.

Line-up:
Pulkkinen - Lajunen - Rask
Hartikainen - Nättinen - Tuominen
Sointu - Myttynen - Elo
Pitkänen - Helenius - Haula

Manelius - Niemelä
Vittasmäki - Näkyvä
Kivistö - Vatanen
Alatalo

Similä
Ortio

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Finland beat Slovakia 5-2 in the final game of the tournament. Stats here: http://www.szlh.sk/statistiky/live-zapas/46730

Sami Vatanen was the top scorer for us and in the whole tournament. Teemu Pulkkinen had 5 assists. After Rajala's injury, his linemates changed a lot, so I was a bit surprised he wasn't tested along side Joonas Nättinen. Considering he had so few shots on goal, it looks like they couldn't find him a set up guy. When Granlund gets healthy again, that should change.

And for those of you wondering why Pulkkinen (and Granlund too, had he been healthy) played with the U-20 team instead of the U-18, get a clue people. The Finnish hockey federation doesn't pick teams thinking about individual players draft positions. If they think a player is good enough for the U-20, of course he'll play on that team. It's much more beneficial for the players development (in the national team too) to play with an older age group, not to mention that it's good for forming chemistry to play as much possible with the same guys. Granted, Rajala's and Grnalund's injuries hampered that idea.

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Finland beat Slovakia 5-2 in the final game of the tournament. Stats here: http://www.szlh.sk/statistiky/live-zapas/46730

Sami Vatanen was the top scorer for us and in the whole tournament. Teemu Pulkkinen had 5 assists. After Rajala's injury, his linemates changed a lot, so I was a bit surprised he wasn't tested along side Joonas Nättinen. Considering he had so few shots on goal, it looks like they couldn't find him a set up guy. When Granlund gets healthy again, that should change.

And for those of you wondering why Pulkkinen (and Granlund too, had he been healthy) played with the U-20 team instead of the U-18, get a clue people. The Finnish hockey federation doesn't pick teams thinking about individual players draft positions. If they think a player is good enough for the U-20, of course he'll play on that team. It's much more beneficial for the players development (in the national team too) to play with an older age group, not to mention that it's good for forming chemistry to play as much possible with the same guys. Granted, Rajala's and Grnalund's injuries hampered that idea.
I think that a lot of people on this boards don´t realize that the national team should first and foremost represent the country and isn´t meant for the skilled individuals to make some good advertisment in front of the scouts, that should coem second.

But, I wonder why isn´t Pulkkinen playing at both? Swiss Niederreiter who´s also been at the U20 tourney, is included on their roster for Ivan Hlinka after all. Is it because Teemu needs to play in Jokerit preseason games to gain a good spot on the roster for next seaosn or did the FIN federation that two tournaments in such short time is too much?

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I think that a lot of people on this boards don´t realize that the national team should first and foremost represent the country and isn´t meant for the skilled individuals to make some good advertisment in front of the scouts, that should coem second.

But, I wonder why isn´t Pulkkinen playing at both? Swiss Niederreiter who´s also been at the U20 tourney, is included on their roster for Ivan Hlinka after all. Is it because Teemu needs to play in Jokerit preseason games to gain a good spot on the roster for next seaosn or did the FIN federation that two tournaments in such short time is too much?
Yes, Jokerit have one exhibition game on Thursday against Kärpät in Oulu and he'll probably play in it. And I don't recall any Finnish juniors that have played in two tournaments in such a short time. U-20 team wants to have the best team in every tournament so that's why Pulkkinen (and Granlund had he been fit) was in that squad (assistant coach Marjamäki's comments from Kiekkolehti).

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Stats of the tournament:
PlayerGPGoAsPo
Vatanen Sami 4 4 3 7
Myttynen Matias 4 0 5 5
Pulkkinen Teemu 4 0 5 5
Nättinen Joonas 4 2 2 4
Sointu Matias 4 2 2 4
Hartikainen Teemu 4 1 3 4
Elo Eero 4 2 1 3
Vittasmäki Veli-Matti 4 0 3 3
Lajunen Jani 4 0 2 2
Rajala Toni 1 1 0 1
Manelius Nico 4 1 0 1
Niemelä Mikko 4 1 0 1
Tuominen Martin 4 1 0 1
Rask Joonas 4 0 1 1
Helenius Jani-Petteri 4 0 0 0
Alatalo Santeri 4 0 0 0
Kivistö Tommi 4 0 0 0
Pitkänen Ilmari 4 0 0 0
Näkyvä Kristian 4 0 0 0
Haula Erik 4 0 0 0

Goalie stats:
PlayerGPMinGAGAASVSPCT
Ortio Joni 2 125:00 5 2.40 41 89.13%
Similä Petteri 2 122:33 6 2.94 43 87.75%

A couple of french fries:
- Sami Vatanen is a beast.
- Matias Sointu seems to be back on track, hopefully the season in NA goes well.
- Nice to see that taller forwards like Nättinen, Hartikainen, Myttynen and Elo were able to contribute at the scoring department.
- Powerplay seemed to work well in this tournament.
- Goaltending might require some improvement, if the team desires to succeed at the U20WJC's?
- Jortikka might still have something to offer as a coach?

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3-0 Cze at even strength. Although the shots on goal seem fairly even. Was that indicative of the level of play or did Finland have defensive or goaltending break downs? And did the Finns have many scoring chances at even strength?
Hard to say solely based on stats, but Czech Republic had 13 two minute penalties while Finland had only 5 two minute penalties plus one ten minute penalty, so that might suggest that the majority of Team Finland's shots became on PP.

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How strong is this Czech squad?
Don't know, but they won the tournament...

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But, I wonder why isn´t Pulkkinen playing at both? Swiss Niederreiter who´s also been at the U20 tourney, is included on their roster for Ivan Hlinka after all. Is it because Teemu needs to play in Jokerit preseason games to gain a good spot on the roster for next seaosn or did the FIN federation that two tournaments in such short time is too much?
This is somewhat conjecture on my part - since I don't have any inside information - but knowing the philosophy of the Finnish hockey organization I'd imagine there are two main factors involved here. In general, the Finnish strategy is to have as many players possible familiar with the national team program so as to develop some depth. Pulkkinen, with his play last year and in other camps, is pretty much a known commodity and the organization probably felt it was important to place some other players in key roles and evaluate their progress or challenge them developmentally.

At the same time, I'd also imagine that Jokerit wanted him to be with them for the same reasons - both to evaluate where (if?) he fit in their men's club plans but also wanted to challenge him to compete against a higher level of play.

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U-20 team wants to have the best team in every tournament so that's why Pulkkinen (and Granlund had he been fit) was in that squad (assistant coach Marjamäki's comments from Kiekkolehti).

Is this a change in direction for the Finnish program? It seemed that in past years they would try to get as many players as possible involved - or was that just at the younger levels? And did Marjamaki comment on what the strategy would be for the Mestis games? Usually, it seems that there is a wide variety of players who get to participate in those games.

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A couple of french fries:
- Sami Vatanen is a beast.
- Matias Sointu seems to be back on track, hopefully the season in NA goes well.
- Nice to see that taller forwards like Nättinen, Hartikainen, Myttynen and Elo were able to contribute at the scoring department.
- Powerplay seemed to work well in this tournament.
- Goaltending might require some improvement, if the team desires to succeed at the U20WJC's?
- Jortikka might still have something to offer as a coach?


One "french fry" that I'd be curious to know about was the play of Viitasmakki (sp?). Were his assist numbers the result of playing with Vatanen or does his play merit more attention?

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Is this a change in direction for the Finnish program? It seemed that in past years they would try to get as many players as possible involved - or was that just at the younger levels? And did Marjamaki comment on what the strategy would be for the Mestis games? Usually, it seems that there is a wide variety of players who get to participate in those games.
No idea. No idea. No.

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One "french fry" that I'd be curious to know about was the play of Viitasmakki (sp?). Were his assist numbers the result of playing with Vatanen or does his play merit more attention?
Were only going by stats and possible recaps from the Finnish federation's site. Nobody saw the games.

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- Sami Vatanen is a beast.
I guess... if you consider a leprechaun a beast

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