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05-13-2009, 03:35 PM
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3rd Overall to Toronto

I was just wondering what would COL want for the pick. What are some of their needs,,

Starting ideas
7th Overall
Kaberle or Kubina
Stajan?

Just thought,

give me some realstic ideas

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Theres so many pages containing Toronto trading up, you couldn't try one of them?

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I was just wondering what would COL want for the pick. What are some of their needs,,

Starting ideas
7th Overall
Kaberle or Kubina
Stajan?

Just thought,

give me some realstic ideas
Too much right there for the 3rd rounder. Maybe not Stajan... I wouldn't mind shipping him out. 2 roster players to move up 4 spots is a little much IMO.

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wow i was just thinking of this same thing.
The way i saw it was
To Toronto:
3ed overall- matt duchene

To Avs-
Kaberle, Kubina and vesa toskala.

...idk guys this is what i was thinking. is it fair? or im i just crazy....

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wow i was just thinking of this same thing.
The way i saw it was
To Toronto:
3ed overall- matt duchene

To Avs-
Kaberle, Kubina and vesa toskala.

...idk guys this is what i was thinking. is it fair? or im i just crazy....
We don't have room for more defensemen unless Toronto will take some back and we don't want Toskala.

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wow i was just thinking of this same thing.
The way i saw it was
To Toronto:
3ed overall- matt duchene

To Avs-
Kaberle, Kubina and vesa toskala.

...idk guys this is what i was thinking. is it fair? or im i just crazy....
I think it's not that bad... Depending on the goalie situation and the contracts back there.

The thing is... Toskala isn't that good. Better than what they have, but he would make them like the 13th team in the West instead of the 15th. (only Toskala, not adding or taking anybody else).

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We don't have room for more defensemen unless Toronto will take some back and we don't want Toskala.
We'll take anything back you want (EVEN RAYCRAP). Imagine Toronto getting the 3rd overall without giving up Schenn OR our 7th?

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it's not even worth discussing, because without massive overpayment -- Schenn -- the Avs aren't trading down. you can try and equate the value of packages of lower picks and vets to a top tier prospect like Duchene until you're blue in the face, but it's not happening.

it's as simple as that.

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Like moving up 5 spots; moving up 4 spots isn't worth moving any of Kaberle, Kubina or Schenn; so those names would be off the table unless we're keeping our 7th overall.

Realistically, I can't see Colorado passing on the opportunity to draft Duchene; he's got the next Joe Sakic written all over him. I think the only way you accomplish it is if you put them in the playoffs next year with a sustainable core. I'm not sure we can accomplish that considering how many players they have under contract and how few high end players we have.

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Colorado doesn't want Kaberle or Kubina unless Clark is heading back the other way, and even that upgrade isn't worth the difference between 7th and 3rd. Toskala barely has more trade value than Tyler Arnason. Assuming that Schenn is off the table there's really nothing on the Leafs roster that would be more valuable than Duchene.

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This isn't working.

Who's starting the "What would it take for T.O. to get the 4th pick?" thread?

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Duchene's ceiling is so high right now I really don't think Colorado will move down.

It's a 3 way dance between Tavares/Hedman/Duchene at this point.

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considering Burke and Lacroix hate each other it would take Burke's first born +

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Theres so many pages containing Toronto trading up, you couldn't try one of them?
I know--I hate value of threas on a good day--but these value of thread 1 through 5 so far aimed at the leafs is getting annoying

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Start with Schenn and then the Avs might start to listen. No offense other than Schenn there is no one on Torontos roster that the Avs would want more than getting either Duchene, Hedman or Tavares.

Toronto doesn't have what the Avs need...a real number one goalie. No matter what you might think Toskala sucks just as bad as Budaj meaning Toskala is not a number one goalie.

The Avs want there pick and its going to have to be a drastic overpayment to pry that pick away from us. The Avs really want Tavares, Hedman, or Duchene who doesn't so why would we trade away this pick. Since moving to denver we haven't had a pick higher than 14th, we want to use this pick to get some real top end talent in the system.

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Start with Schenn and then the Avs might start to listen. No offense other than Schenn there is no one on Torontos roster that the Avs would want more than getting either Duchene, Hedman or Tavares.

Toronto doesn't have what the Avs need...a real number one goalie. No matter what you might think Toskala sucks just as bad as Budaj meaning Toskala is not a number one goalie.

The Avs want there pick and its going to have to be a drastic overpayment to pry that pick away from us. The Avs really want Tavares, Hedman, or Duchene who doesn't so why would we trade away this pick. Since moving to denver we haven't had a pick higher than 14th, we want to use this pick to get some real top end talent in the system.
The only time he is comparable to the suckage which is Budaj is when he plays injured (see: this year). While healthy he is an average goalie which can win a couple of games a year by himself (see: 07-08)

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wow i was just thinking of this same thing.
The way i saw it was
To Toronto:
3ed overall- matt duchene

To Avs-
Kaberle, Kubina and vesa toskala.

...idk guys this is what i was thinking. is it fair? or im i just crazy....
Um.........no, you're crazy.

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Someone tell me why Colorado does this. Please, just explain it to me. Why would the 3rd worst team in the NHL trade it's 1st round pick away?

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why do Leaf Fans want to move up so bad

if Schenn and their first in a deal then they are morons

Kaberle is a top Dman and still young and has a good contract

move Kubina if they want to move a Dman

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i think the avs stay put and draft duchene....he's gonna be one hell of a player

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Toronto is not a good trading partner for the Avalanche, especially with Schenn off the table. It's highly unlikely Colorado moves down. They'll take what's ever left from Tavares/Hedman/Duchene. There is little incentive for the Avs to move down.

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Toronto is not a good trading partner for the Avalanche, especially with Schenn off the table. It's highly unlikely Colorado moves down. They'll take what's ever left from Tavares/Hedman/Duchene. There is little incentive for the Avs to move down.
Exactly. Pass. Unless it's the 7th overall and Schenn on the table I don't think we're in a position to consider moving the pick; Kaberle and Kubina are nice, but not appropriate for the team at this stage.

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I'd give 1st, Stajan, and hell just about anyone else to move up tbh but ive heard Colorado really likes Duschene(their next sakic).

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why do Leaf Fans want to move up so bad

if Schenn and their first in a deal then they are morons

Kaberle is a top Dman and still young and has a good contract

move Kubina if they want to move a Dman
Its pretty obvious, the fans want a superstar. We want our own Crosby, Ovechkin, or Malkin. The problem being is so do the other 29 teams.

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