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05-13-2009, 08:07 PM
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I know its not probably the best time, but I seriously want to know who you all believe GMGM will or won't bring back this offseason


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Eh. I'm game to talk offseason right about now. If Fedorov, Flash, Morrisonn, and Nylander don't GTFO this season, I want GMGM's head.

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Feds has to go. Theodore of course, think he has a one year deal.

Nylander too

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Who I think should go:

Feds
Nyles
Theo
Flash
Fehr
Brash
Schultz
Morrison
Clark

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Oh, we're doing all of them? I just thought about the most likely ones. I'd like to see Kozlov, Brash, Feds, Schultz, Morrisonn, Flash, and Nylander all gone. I'd keep Theo to split time with Czarly. Johnny probably has to go since we can't keep him.

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Who I think should go:

Feds
Nyles
Theo
Flash
Fehr
Brash
Schultz
Morrison
Clark
Let's not panic after a overall great season. We need fine-tuning, not a fire-sale.

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05-13-2009, 08:39 PM
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Let's not panic after a overall great season. We need fine-tuning, not a fire-sale.
No, we need a fire sale to get rid of the junk that GMGM has given us. We played better when a lot of these guys were injured.

Justify any one of these guys, please.

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gone for sure:

Kozlov, Fedorov, Nylander

coming back for sure:

Flash, Fehr, Gordon, Steckel

maybes:

Mo, Jurcina

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Let's not panic after a overall great season. We need fine-tuning, not a fire-sale.
I agree.

Morrisonn, however, is at the top of my sh** list right now. He was terrible. No way they can bring him back. I'd like Schultz to be shown the door, but that's BB's boy.

Other than that, the only guy who NEEDS to go is Nylander. Maybe Theo, maybe, and probably Fedorov (it pains me to say that). Flash you keep, at least through next season, because he's so damn cheap, and because he could still turn out to be a decent player.

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Who I think should go:

Feds
Nyles
Theo
Flash
Fehr
Brash
Schultz
Morrison
Clark
Geez, Wharf. This is a good team. I don't know if you gut that much of the team. I think Fedorov, Fleischmann, Fehr, Morrisonn and Clark still have a place on this team.

But... Theodore, Nylander and Schultz should be moved out for upgrades. Brashear is valuable during the regular season and can still help the team if he accepts his role.

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Start with the UFAs: Fedorov, Kozlov, Johnson & Brashear. All should go except perhaps Johnson if Theodore is dealt. Given the lingering endurance concerns about Varlamov, I'd be inclined to keep Theodore. It's hard to see Varlamov starting 55-60 games next season unless he changes quite a few things over the summer that allow him to pace himself better.

After that you'd imagine they'll look to dump Nylander (unlikely IMO) and package together some assets to upgrade the D and/or bring in more character and grit up front.

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Why don't you guys want Fedorov back? To expensive?

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No, we need a fire sale to get rid of the junk that GMGM has given us. We played better when a lot of these guys were injured.

Justify any one of these guys, please.
Flash, Fehr - they might never be superstars, but I'll give them another season, easily. Especially Flash. However, we'll trade them if a top defenseman like Pronger is coming to the Capitals.

Fedorov - if the price is right. Not at 4 million. At 2-2,5 mill - easily. Especially if we get rid of Nylander.

Clark - a healthy Clark will still help us, on a 3rd or 4th line role.

Schultz - I'm not a big fan personally but I'll give him another season as well. Gotta believe Japer's on this one.

Theodore - he'll support Varlamov next season. Then bye-bye.

Morrisonn, Nylander, Brashear - no need for them anymore.

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Why don't you guys want Fedorov back? To expensive?
yeah, for what he brings. at this point, he's mostly intangibles. he really just doesn't seem to have much gas in the tank anymore--he was slow and getting walked around in the playoffs.

don't get me wrong--i love him as a player--but i think it's time to move on. ovechkin's the leader of this team, and it's time to embrace that.

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All I know...they need more team speed.

So by process of elimination, the UFA's...Fedorov, Kozlov, and Brash should not be back.

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ovechkin needs to go, just GTFO

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Fedorov never really recovered from his ankle injury. If the offseason doesn't cure that, he will retire. If it does, I expect he will be back. The bonus cushion is back in place and so Fedorov's contract will be far more flexible cap hit wise.

Nylander and Theodore will be gone one way or the other. The goalies will be Varlamov and Johnson.

I expect McPhee to repeat in some form his Eminger and a pick for a 1st to choose Carlson at this year's draft. He has Morrisonn, Schultz and Lepisto to work worth. That would also allow him to use his first and another asset or two of value to get the playoff veteran defenseman that so obviously need.

They don't need to rip the defense apart, but Green doesnt have the experience to lead the group and Poti is just not strong enough to do it. The Caps need a Pronger or a Kubina. Someone with a big body and his name on the cup.

Let me add that I would be fine with trading Poti and keeping Pothier.

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Gone:

Leach
Feds
Kozlov
Mo
Schultz
Nylander (fingers crossed)

Back:

Theo (I think they need a starter-caliber goalie to backup Varly)
Gordon
Juice
Bourque
Lepisto

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need some more leadership.

Some that isn't on its last legs.

I would think about buying out Clark if that is cost effective.

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Gone:

Feds (retired)
Nylander (retired or bought out)
Kozlov (replaced with grit/leadership)
Fleischmann (traded, hopefully)
Morrisonn (odd man out)
Schultz (another odd man out)
Pothier (hopefully)

Outside of Fedorov, all of these players lack leadership, are soft and were awful in the playoffs outside of 1 or 2 games.

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Theodore will be gone one way or the other. The goalies will be Varlamov and Johnson.
I don't see how that makes any sense.

A buyout of Theodore would reduce the payout from $4.5m to $3.0m, paid two years at $1.5m per. Johnson wants a raise, probably to the tune of $1.5m. If the Caps buyout Theodore and sign Johnson, they are still stuck paying out the full $4.5m for a goalie, and only reduce their cap number by $1.5m total. Theodore is worth $1.5m more than Brent Johnson, don't you think?

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Start at McPhee and keep retooling from there.

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Start at McPhee and keep retooling from there.
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Geez, Wharf. This is a good team. I don't know if you gut that much of the team. I think Fedorov, Fleischmann, Fehr, Morrisonn and Clark still have a place on this team.

But... Theodore, Nylander and Schultz should be moved out for upgrades. Brashear is valuable during the regular season and can still help the team if he accepts his role.
You really want Brash, Feds, and Shamo? Why?

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Get rid of Semin. He's just not reliable enough to pay the kind of dough he'll want. Give me 2 Scott Hartnell types instead.

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