While it would take a package like that to get the 1st overall, it's not the right move for the Kings. Getting JT would be great and his offensive contribution could possibly be close to a wash with Frolov (at least for the first year), but it would create a huge hole in the D. With no first rounder we would have to hope to get someone through UFA that could fill Johnson's spot and it would be very hard to get someone like that without overpaying (contract-wise).
Yeah but this "Lombardi loves defensemen thing" is also getting out of hand. I do recall Dean Lombardi has also drafted forwards...
Last season the Kings drafted two defensemen already and now the Kings desperately need quality forwards...even DL should know that.
I totally agree with you. I just don't think you can put it past Dean to draft Hedman over Tavares if he had the chance. I will highly upset if we don't get a forward with the 5th overall, or anyt pick/player we trade it for.
Remember the quote about how he doesn't expect draft picks to make it to the NHL for 3 years and thus drafts the asset he think will be most valuable to trade in those first few years? His actions don't totally support that view but DL is Mr. Mysterio. The draft is never a given with him.
Another Lemming jumping on the trade Johnson & Frolov bandwagon.
The kings need to add to what they have, not trade 2 impact players for another blue chip prospect.
The only way I trade Frolov & Johnson is to get Malkin or Staal. I would trade Johnson & 5th overall pick for Jeff Carter.
If the kings want to win the Cup they need a 1a/1b center & move Zus to the 4th line.
Um, define impact. Were you referring to JJ??? Not exactly "impact" by definition of 29 other team's fanbases. Just because he's got the high draft pedigree means very little. From what I've seen of him there is nothing special there. Should we call Gilbert Brule "impact" because he was taken a few picks late than JJ, played more games to this point with similar results? He wasn't even an impact player in the A last year.
And ask Philly fans what they think of Carter going for your package.
I'm not saying JJ doesn't have the tools to be a top pair guy, but it certainly isn't a lock (Carolina sure didn't think so).
From NYI's standpoint, pull the trigger. I don't love Frolov, but he gives NYI much-needed offense up front. (Moller is less proven, and I do not wish to give up a high-rated future for a lesser-rated one.) JJ is just a kid with tons of potential. Could be rock on D. And with the 5th pick, you choose Kane or Schenn to man the pivot and you're off and running.
That said, why do the Kings do this? (Rhetorical question.)
I don't see a need for LA to go crazy and trade for Tavares. We have our young franchise forwards. Add a big gun through FA or a standard trade and/or just use the 5th and take a top young forward prospect. Tavares would be great, but not at that price. Frolov needs to be re-signed, and Johnson is beloved by management and scheduled to be a first pairing partner with Doughty in the future. The draft is deep. Kane, Schenn, or MSP will be just fine... Just because we have the assets to pull off ridiculous trades such as these doesn't mean we should.
Originally Posted by Shake the Nation
Just out of curiousity. Anyone in here think Moller and Frolov shares equal value? Perhaps I read fantasy proposal wrong, but that is just not right in my opinion
As for the deal. Moller, Johnson, 5th for Hedman- Yes
Frolov, Johnson, 5th for Hedman- Don't know
Any of these packages for Tavares- No
Just my opinion
No, Frolov >> Moller.
"I think part of his game is he’s over aggressive at times, which I like. We’ll tame that. I’d rather tame a lion than paint stripes on the kitty cat." - Dean Lombardi discussing Brayden McNabb