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05-18-2009, 01:40 PM
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Islanders/Colorado/Dallas

Islanders Get:
3rd Overall Pick
8th Overall Pick
2nd Round Pick from Colorado

Avalanche Get:
1st Overall Pick

Dallas Gets:
JM Liles

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Dallas gives up their #8 pick to get JM Liles?



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There's no way the Isles get that kind of a package for the 1st. Sorry.

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Oh wow, now that took some effort, I must admit.

Well done, OP, you've made me laugh. That was your goal, wasn't it?

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Why would Dallas trade the 8th OA for JM Liles? That pick carries a lot more value and the Stars need to stock up on more young talent.

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avs fan, i'd do it

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If he only wanted to make this semi-insane, it would have been Liles, 3rd, 2nd rounder for the 1st overall, but he had to go full-insane.

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Dallas gives up their #8 pick to get JM Liles?



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There's no way the Isles get that kind of a package for the 1st. Sorry.
Sure they would. For the right to pick John Tavares? 2 High draft picks and a 2nd rounder isn't exactly a king's ransom. JM Liles is a very good offensive d-man and a perfect fit for Dallas who is built to win now.

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If he only wanted to make this semi-insane, it would have been Liles, 3rd, 2nd rounder for the 1st overall, but he had to go full-insane.
ok guy. maybe we'll get a 7th rounder for the Tavares pick. Get a clue

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Sure they would. For the right to pick John Tavares? 2 High draft picks and a 2nd rounder isn't exactly a king's ransom. JM Liles is a very good offensive d-man and a perfect fit for Dallas who is built to win now.
The top-3 for the draft are hardly set in stone at this point. Now it might just be idle speculation, but enough uncertainty has surrounding who is going where in the top-3 to make teams less likely to unload a ton of assets just to move up or down a spot or two.

As for the trade itself, the Isles are getting a top-10 pick and a high second rounder to move down two spots. That's outrageous considering the fact that Tavares isn't regarded as one of those generational talents that would necessitate such a return.

Liles is coming off a down year which showed that he's not capable of being a #1 defenseman on a nightly basis. He just signed a long-term deal as well. With all the concerns for long-term contracts, I'm not even sure the Avs could get a 2nd round pick for him at this point. They certainly couldn't get a top-10 pick for him; not in this draft--not in any draft.

So in summation, the Isles take this and walk away smiling, but it's all for naught because Dallas and Colorado wouldn't be on board.

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avs fan, i'd do it
Thank you sir!

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Islanders Get:
3rd Overall Pick
8th Overall Pick
2nd Round Pick from Colorado

Avalanche Get:
1st Overall Pick

Dallas Gets:
JM Liles
Are they handing out LSD at your school?

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The top-3 for the draft are hardly set in stone at this point. Now it might just be idle speculation, but enough uncertainty has surrounding who is going where in the top-3 to make teams less likely to unload a ton of assets just to move up or down a spot or two.

As for the trade itself, the Isles are getting a top-10 pick and a high second rounder to move down two spots. That's outrageous considering the fact that Tavares isn't regarded as one of those generational talents that would necessitate such a return.

Liles is coming off a down year which showed that he's not capable of being a #1 defenseman on a nightly basis. He just signed a long-term deal as well. With all the concerns for long-term contracts, I'm not even sure the Avs could get a 2nd round pick for him at this point. They certainly couldn't get a top-10 pick for him; not in this draft--not in any draft.

So in summation, the Isles take this and walk away smiling, but it's all for naught because Dallas and Colorado wouldn't be on board.
Ok. Because YOU said so. Thank you for your insight Hockey Guru

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Are they handing out LSD at your school?
Yeah guy. Thats what they're doin

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Yeah guy. Thats what they're doin
Good to know.

Guess that explains your thought process in coming up with this disaster.

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Yeah guy. Thats what they're doin
Well obviously since in some mind altering universe would Dallas move the 8th overall pick for Liles...........

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Ok. Because YOU said so. Thank you for your insight Hockey Guru
Hey, anytime I can set anyone straight.

Any part of my analysis that you specifcally would like to disagree with?

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everyone does it except Dallas.

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Thank you sir!
i just want hedman > avs... i'd trade 3rd and liles for hedman.. .

frees up a spot/salary on the back end.. i'm not confident they can move clark's salary anyway..

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Thank you sir!
I think you're missing the point. Avalanche fans would clearly do it. Dallas fans wouldn't touch this. JM Liles is probably not even worth the 30th pick, let alone the 8th.

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All this proposal is to bolster the team he supports while handcuffing the other teams mentioned....lock this **** please.

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Avalanche fans would clearly do it.
Clearly that's not the case. Some may--depending on your opinion of Hedman or Tavares, but most would not.

Considering the fact that Colorado is in full bore rebuild mode, if in whatever fantasy world they get that much for Liles in return, then they'd be much better off having two top-10 picks and the high second rounder.

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Clearly that's not the case. Some may--depending on your opinion of Hedman or Tavares, but most would not.

Considering the fact that Colorado is in full bore rebuild mode, if in whatever fantasy world they get that much for Liles in return, then they'd be much better off having two top-10 picks and the high second rounder.
Exactly...

Teams know Colorado is in rebuild mode. There is no way teams are going to help them achieve that without getting overpayment in return.

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Clearly that's not the case. Some may--depending on your opinion of Hedman or Tavares, but most would not.

Considering the fact that Colorado is in full bore rebuild mode, if in whatever fantasy world they get that much for Liles in return, then they'd be much better off having two top-10 picks and the high second rounder.
i'm all for that as well...

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If the Avs are in full blown rebuild I'd rather have that 8th overall pick + Duchene rather than only Tavares.

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