Hi everyone. I lurk a lot, but I have some questions that I think may have interesting, discussion-sparking answers.
1) Assuming we make no draft-day trades to move up, and assuming that Toronto's 1st stays right around #25 like it is now, who do you think we should draft at that spot among players with a good chance of being available? Why do you like him?
2) I've seen a lot of talk about Schremp being a "wild card". Why is that? What are his good and bad qualities? Last year's wild card, Patrick O'Sullivan, dropped all the way to the middle of the 2nd round. With which of our picks, if any, should we take Schremp if he is still available?
3) Assuming we end up picking at #5, which of the top players do you hope is left for us, assuming that Ovechkin will be taken #1.
4) If we were to trade Lundmark before or during the draft, what would his value be? Would he be enough to move up from, say, Florida's 2nd to the top 10 of the first round? Is he worth more than that?
and with my money (picks and prospects on hand), i first try to package the #1 to move up, but only to #1 to grab OvalChicken.
However, as a fallback, i would keep my #1 (NYR) then try to package our TOR 1st rounder, and perhaps our 2nd rounder + a low level prospect (if necessary) to grab say the #4 overall pick.
I would almost want Barker + Ladd than just OvalChicken. Just so as not to put all my eggs in one basket.
Obviously, the big three - Ovechkin, Malkin and Barker - would be immediate help. But, if the Rangers ended up with any of the following - Ladd, Chipchura, Thelen, Schremp or Stafford, (especially if Sather moves up and is able to grab two of them), I'd be happy. And, I'd like to see Pineault and Tesliuk taken one aour 2nd round picks.
Obviously, the big three - Ovechkin, Malkin and Barker - would be immediate help. But, if the Rangers ended up with any of the following - Ladd, Chipchura, Thelen, Schremp or Stafford, (especially if Sather moves up and is able to grab two of them), I'd be happy. And, I'd like to see Pineault and Tesliuk taken one aour 2nd round picks.
I'd like something along the lines of:
Ladd or Schremp or Chipchura
Thelen or Valabik
In the first round. If we were to keep our spots and picks, I could see Ladd/Schremp and possibly Valabik in the first round. I'd love to get an additional pick in the first round and come out with Ladd, Schremp and Valabik (Hey, I can dream, can't I?). Follow that up with Carson, Graham and Hensick in the second and I'll finally be happy with Sather. OK, maybe NOT!
It should be an interesting time around here come June.
Hi everyone. I lurk a lot, but I have some questions that I think may have interesting, discussion-sparking answers.
1) Assuming we make no draft-day trades to move up, and assuming that Toronto's 1st stays right around #25 like it is now, who do you think we should draft at that spot among players with a good chance of being available? Why do you like him?
2) I've seen a lot of talk about Schremp being a "wild card". Why is that? What are his good and bad qualities? Last year's wild card, Patrick O'Sullivan, dropped all the way to the middle of the 2nd round. With which of our picks, if any, should we take Schremp if he is still available?
3) Assuming we end up picking at #5, which of the top players do you hope is left for us, assuming that Ovechkin will be taken #1.
4) If we were to trade Lundmark before or during the draft, what would his value be? Would he be enough to move up from, say, Florida's 2nd to the top 10 of the first round? Is he worth more than that?
1) With the Leafs pick, i see us moving up, maybe ten spots or more to get a player like Valabik or Thelen if he's still there. But if we do stay at #25 some possibilities are: Roman Tesliuk-D, Lukas Kaspar-W, Travis Zajac-C, Carl Soderberg-C, Peteri Nokelainen-W, Kirill Lyamin-D, Kyle Wharton-D, Brett Carson-D.
2)I like Schremp, if Ladd was gone at say #5 or #6, Schremp would be a good pick. I question the kids character, not his skill. Is he a team player willing to prove himself, of is it the other way around?
3)With Ovechkin gone, i'd say the next 3 picks should be Malkin, Barker, Olesz. Then for #5 & #6 teams will either take Wolski, Schremp, Ladd, Radulov, Chipchura, Smid, Lisin, Tukonen, Green, Bolland, Picard or Thelen. I'd hope for Ladd, Schremp, Wolski, or Thelen for us at #5/6.
4)Lundmark plus Toronto's pick could move us up 5-10 spots, somewhere in there. Poti, Lundmark, and Toronto's first would get us into the top ten
4)Lundmark plus Toronto's pick could move us up 5-10 spots, somewhere in there. Poti, Lundmark, and Toronto's first would get us into the top ten
Im no big Poti fan, but i would hope that returns us the 4th or 6th pick, at the least, not just in the top 10.
A young prospect in Lundmark who has already had NHL experience, A Young D-man who has already proven he can be a leading scorer at his position in the NHL (ahnd whos game some say has recently improved), AND a pick that is still in the 1st round.
lots of players are picked at 4-6 that dont even turn out 1/2 as good as Porta Poti, so i would hope for a good return on him.
Lundmark and a #2 get the Rangers a top 10 pick? I'm sure the kid has some value, but would you rather take a flyer on a guy like Ladd or Shremp, etc., than to take a Lundmark who hasn't done much by the age of 23 (we can blame everybody we want, let's just stick with what's factual currently) and a draft pick in the second round that could be a weak pick (I'm hearing that after the first round, talent slips)?
And if you know Sather, you know he'd probably sign a couple vets, push Jamie out a bit during camp to the point at which he doesn't perform well, and leave him exposed in the waiver draft (he does have to be protected, doesn't he?).
Im no big Poti fan, but i would hope that returns us the 4th or 6th pick, at the least, not just in the top 10.
A young prospect in Lundmark who has already had NHL experience, A Young D-man who has already proven he can be a leading scorer at his position in the NHL (ahnd whos game some say has recently improved), AND a pick that is still in the 1st round.
lots of players are picked at 4-6 that dont even turn out 1/2 as good as Porta Poti, so i would hope for a good return on him.
1n 1999 we traded Sundstrom(former top ten pick), Cloutier(Former 1st rounder) & a 2000 #1 & #3 pick for the 4th overall. And that '99 was considered a 'very good' draft. I guess we could move up in the draft, it all depends on who's drafting and what they're looking for.
What value Lundmark has depends entirely on the team(s) we want to trade with. The only two teams that we are pretty sure have legitimate interest are Phoenix and Edmonton. Lundmark and a 2nd won't get you PHX's 4th or 5th overall pick. As for Kevin Lowe, who knows what he and Slats have planned. I'm calling it now though, those two will swing a trade on deadline day, bet on it.
I'd love to get any of my top 5 guys at the number 5 spot.
Assuming we don't make a move at 25 I'd take a flyer on a guy like Fransson or someone in that category.
Ideally I'd like to turn around and move toronto's pick to get into the top 15.
Maybe take a chane if Schremp falls that far {doubtful} or a big defenseman like O'Neil.
Could Schremp just keep falling? Look at what happened to O'Sullivan last year. He was supposedly a top 10 or top 15 talent that fell all the way to the middle of the second round. It sounds like people think Schremp is a top 2 or 3 talent, so maybe that will keep him in the top 15 range.
Could Schremp just keep falling? Look at what happened to O'Sullivan last year. He was supposedly a top 10 or top 15 talent that fell all the way to the middle of the second round. It sounds like people think Schremp is a top 2 or 3 talent, so maybe that will keep him in the top 15 range.
O'sullivans perceived "problems" went beyond simply having a lackadaisical attitude or not being a character guy.
What were those problems? I never did quite hear the whole story, except that they involved his father and family problems.
Sexual abuse ... he dropped (at least according to conjecture on draft day) because of the "belief" that the "emotional" and "psychological" effect of the abuse may have "weakened" him such that he may not be able to compete successfully at the NHL level ...
OK, maybe NOT! 
