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05-18-2009, 11:46 PM
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steve staios 2.9
dustin penner 4.25
theo peckham .6

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danny briere 6.5


flyers spread the cap money out and fill positions of need while edmonton turns bad money into godd acquiring a number 1 center.

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05-18-2009, 11:56 PM
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steve staios 2.9
dustin penner 4.25
theo peckham .6

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danny briere 6.5


flyers spread the cap money out and fill positions of need while edmonton turns bad money into godd acquiring a number 1 center.

Don't we take on $1.25 million here? Are assuming that Lupul and Jones are gone for nothing?

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05-18-2009, 11:57 PM
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No. If the Flyers are going to spend $6.5m we are going to spend it on a PPG forward, not excess bulk we don't even need.

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05-19-2009, 12:13 AM
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Philly walks, Peckham probably has the highest value of the 3. If Philly wanted to spread the salary around, they could probably still get better players.

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We don't need to spread the same cap money out over more players we don't need, the worst of which is Penner and his contract. The last thing we need is another bad contract handed out to a forward.

Briere, for as much crap as he takes on these boards, has more value than that if we aren't gaining cap space. This doesn't help us at all.

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Philly walks, Peckham probably has the highest value of the 3. If Philly wanted to spread the salary around, they could probably still get better players.
There's only 28 other teams and this looks like a great deal.

Penner + John Stevens = Potential Greatness

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05-19-2009, 12:25 AM
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There's only 28 other teams and this looks like a great deal.

Penner + John Stevens = Potential Greatness
You forgot the ?

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There's only 28 other teams and this looks like a great deal.

Penner + John Stevens = Potential Greatness
i threw up in my mouth a little when i read that.

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i really like the potential of penner and he brings a physicality this team lacks. staios would provide a steadying presence and veteran leadership back on the blue line while still giving decent minutes on a bottom pairing. peckham is a promising young defenseman with some size.

wed have to shed jones somehow but weve bascialy evened out the roles shifting a top line playmaker for a power forward plugging 3 holes by shedding one player.
staios brings a more physical game then jones and is a nice leadership guy while peckham replaces alberts and has more potential plus a cheaper contract. penner plays better when given talent to play with and i think his potential would be high on the flyers.

emdonton might have to throw in a swettener but i wanted to see what they thought first. i had thought to include jones in the deal but figured id be in enough discussion with just the value of briere.


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i really like the potential of penner and he brings a physicality this team lacks
Please, no.

I've seen enough of Penner to believe that potential will never be realized. And he's hardly physical (at least on any kind of consistent basis), which is a big part of the reason he will likely never reach his potential.

Penner is a soft player on a bad contract. He'd be getting paid about the same as Hartnell, and he's not even worth half that at this point.

Just say no.

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i really like the potential of penner and he brings a physicality this team lacks. staios would provide a steadying presence and veteran leadership back on the blue line while still giving decent minutes on a bottom pairing. peckham is a promising young defenseman with some size.

wed have to shed jones somehow but weve bascialy evened out the roles shifting a top line playmaker for a power forward plugging 3 holes by shedding one player.
staios brings a more physical game then jones and is a nice leadership guy while peckham replaces alberts and has more potential plus a cheaper contract. penner plays better when given talent to play with and i think his potential would be high on the flyers.
Coburn, Carle, Sbisa, Parent, Marshall, Boudron, Bodrov, and Ratchuk...

And you think we have any room for Peckham? Our young defensive core is through the roof right now. We aren't even really looking to draft defensemen high and are probably going to go forward. There's no point in this.

We can get a more bang-for-your-buck defenseman than Staios in free agency for cheaper. Penner is certainly not something we want. He makes Lupul's contract look like Mike Richards'...

Briere is a PPG forward who is $6.5m in cap hit. Some people don't seem to understand that he is more offensively gifted than Richards and only making $0.75m more than him...

Someone needs to give some perspective to all of these people bashing Briere's contract.

WE ARE NOT GIVING A PPG FORWARD ON A FAIR CONTRACT UP FOR SCRAPS.

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05-19-2009, 01:02 AM
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Danny Briere is the last type of player Edmonton is looking for right now.

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Danny Briere is the last type of player Edmonton is looking for right now.
That's hardly the problem here.

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05-19-2009, 01:19 AM
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steve staios 2.9
dustin penner 4.25
theo peckham .6

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danny briere 6.5


flyers spread the cap money out and fill positions of need while edmonton turns bad money into godd acquiring a number 1 center.
Counter:

Briere

For

Peckham
2nd Round Pick 2009 + 2010
4th Round Pick 2009

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Briere

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Eberle
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Fixed.

We have no need for Peckham.

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05-19-2009, 02:02 AM
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Briere is already 32 and is signed for 6 more years. I want nothing to do with him. I am not comfortable at all paying a 35-38 year old Briere 6.5 million

I would love to get rid of Staios but he only has 2 years left on his deal.

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05-19-2009, 02:24 AM
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steve staios 2.9
dustin penner 4.25
theo peckham .6

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danny briere 6.5


flyers spread the cap money out and fill positions of need while edmonton turns bad money into godd acquiring a number 1 center.
You must be a huge Oilers fan.

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Briere is already 32 and is signed for 6 more years. I want nothing to do with him. I am not comfortable at all paying a 35-38 year old Briere 6.5 million
If I'm not mistaken, Briere's contract was front loaded that way when he is a 35-38 year old his actual salary is only 2 million or so. Unfortunately the cap hit is still 6.5 million.

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Oilers probably don't do it. Staios and Penner have terrible contracts, but they have 2 and 3 years left. Being a young team, management would like the shorter terms. While Briere is clearly the better player, and his contract isn't too bad if he's healthy, we can't be paying both Briere and and Horcoff a combined $12 million 4 years from now and expect to hang on to Gagner and Cogliano, who at that time could very well be better.

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steve staios 2.9
dustin penner 4.25
theo peckham .6

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danny briere 6.5


flyers spread the cap money out and fill positions of need while edmonton turns bad money into godd acquiring a number 1 center.
Don't know why the Flyers do this?

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05-19-2009, 09:06 AM
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That's terrible for the Flyers

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i really like the potential of penner and he brings a physicality this team lacks. staios would provide a steadying presence and veteran leadership back on the blue line while still giving decent minutes on a bottom pairing. peckham is a promising young defenseman with some size.

wed have to shed jones somehow but weve bascialy evened out the roles shifting a top line playmaker for a power forward plugging 3 holes by shedding one player.
staios brings a more physical game then jones and is a nice leadership guy while peckham replaces alberts and has more potential plus a cheaper contract. penner plays better when given talent to play with and i think his potential would be high on the flyers.

emdonton might have to throw in a swettener but i wanted to see what they thought first. i had thought to include jones in the deal but figured id be in enough discussion with just the value of briere.
Honestly, have you ever seen Penner play?

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If the Flyers did trade Briere, he would have to approve first, it would not be to take equal salary back. It would be a staright salary dump.

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No thanks. We need a stud dman and a stud goalie....start with Souray and maybe we'll talk.

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There's no way we're taking Briere off your hands. It doesn't even matter what the proposal is...

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