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2009 Mock Draft v.2 & v.3 by Adam Kimelman, NHL.com

Kimelmam's changes in his v3:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=32370


1 New York Islanders +1 John Tavares, C, London (OHL) SKINNY:*His potential on and off the ice is just too good to pass up
2 Tampa Bay Lightning -1 Victor Hedman, D, MODO (Sweden) SKINNY:*Giant defenseman fills team's biggest area of need
3 Colorado Avalanche - Matt Duchene, C, Brampton (OHL) SKINNY:*Could be the best long-term replacement for Joe Sakic
4 Atlanta Thrashers - Evander Kane, C, Vancouver (WHL) SKINNY:*A budding power forward that only will get better with NHL strength training.
5 Los Angeles Kings - Magnus Svensson-Paajarvi, F, Timra (Sweden) SKINNY:*Looked real good on the small ice at WJC
6 Phoenix Coyotes +1 Brayden Schenn, C, Brandon (WHL) SKINNY:*Coyotes in desperate need of a top-line center
7 Toronto Maple Leafs +1 Zack Kassian, RW, Peterborough (OHL) SKINNY:*Size, skill, toughness -- a prototypical Brian Burke player
8 Dallas Stars -2 Dmitry Kulikov, D, Drummondville (QMJHL) SKINNY:*Scouts believe he can play in the NHL right now
9 Ottawa Senators - Jared Cowen, D, Spokane (WHL) SKINNY:*Big, mean, nasty compliment to last year's first-round D-man, Erik Karlsson
10 Edmonton Oilers - Carter Ashton, RW, Lethbridge (WHL) SKINNY:*Oilers need to be harder to play against; Ashton provides that
11 Nashville Predators +5 Scott Glennie, RW, Brandon (WHL) SKINNY:*Strong skater uses his speed to back down defenseman, and can finish
12 Minnesota Wild - Jordan Schroeder, C, Minnesota (WCHA) SKINNY:*Size questions answered by strong Combine workout
13 Buffalo Sabres +1 Simon Despres, D, Saint John (QMJHL)* SKINNY:*Sabres thrilled to land big, skilled defenseman
14 Florida Panthers -3 John Moore, D, Chicago (USHL)* SKINNY:*Some scouts believe he's the best skater in the draft
15 Anaheim Ducks +12 David Rundblad, D, Skelleftea (Sweden) SKINNY:*Young, offensive-minded blueliner just what the Ducks need
16 Columbus Blue Jackets +6 Oliver Ekman-Larsson, D, Leksand (Sweden)* SKINNY:*Great offensive instincts and a strong shot from the point
17 St Louis Blues new Peter Holland, C, Guelph (OHL)* SKINNY:*Big center (6-2, 185) skates well, has good work ethic
18 Montréal Canadiens -5 Ryan Ellis, D, Windsor (OHL) SKINNY:*Canadiens find the perfect boost to their power play
19 New York Rangers - Nazem Kadri, C, London (OHL) SKINNY:*For the third year in a row, a top-10 talent lands in the Rangers' lap
20 Calgary Flames -3 Jacob Josefson, C, Djurgarden (Sweden) SKINNY:*Needs to get stronger, but skating and two-way skill make him good choice.
21 Philadelphia Flyers +5 Robin Lehner, G, Frolunda (Sweden) SKINNY:*Big (6-3, 220), strong goalie fills major organizational hole
22 Vancouver Canucks +3 Stefan Elliott, D, Saskatoon (WHL)* SKINNY:*Has brains and skill in equally large portions
23 New Jersey Devils new Tim Erixon, D, Skelleftea (Sweden)* SKINNY:*Mostly defensive minded, but has offensive talent
24 Washington Capitals -4 Zach Budish, RW, Edina (Minn.) High* SKINNY:*Jumbo-size forward (6-3, 229) fully recovered from knee injury
25 Boston Bruins -10 Chris Kreider, C, Andover Academy (Mass.)* SKINNY:*Bruins will have time to watch power forward develop at BC starting in '10
26 N.Y. Islanders*(from SJS/OTT) new Kyle Palmieri, C, USNTDP SKINNY:*Packs lot of skill and strength into small (5-10, 191) package
27 Carolina Hurricanes new Drew Shore, C, USNTDP SKINNY:*Big (6-2, 190), strong player unafraid to work in the dirty areas
28 Chicago Blackhawks -10 Louis Leblanc, C, Omaha (USHL) SKINNY:*Headed to Harvard, but highly-skilled forward likely won't be there four years
29 Detroit Red Wings +1 Calvin de Haan, D, Oshawa (OHL)* SKINNY:*One of the biggest surprises of the season; mobile, very skilled
30 Pittsburgh Penguins -2 Carl Klingberg, LW, Frolunda Jr. (Sweden) SKINNY:*Pens need skilled, strong forwards to play with Sidney Crosby


Dropped from First Round
  • Ed Pasquale
  • Landon Ferraro
  • Jordan Caron
  • Philippe Paradis


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I like Kimelman's mock better than the other guys on NHL.com:
http://www.nhl.com/ice/page.htm?id=31878

"IMO" Key
  • Good value because of upside, denoted with ($)
  • Good chemistry with existing team personnel, (+)
  • Too high and thus risky, denoted with (#)

1 New York Islanders + Victor Hedman, D, MODO (Sweden) +1 SKINNY: A potential franchise defenseman is just too hard to pass up.
2 Tampa Bay Lightning + John Tavares, C, London (OHL) -1 SKINNY: Following the Pittsburgh plan -- two young, dominant centers.
3 Colorado Avalanche Matt Duchene, C, Brampton (OHL) +3 SKINNY: Sniper and puck mover has almost no holes in his game.
4 Atlanta Thrashers Evander Kane, C, Vancouver (WHL) -- SKINNY: Strong center can get to the net or set up wingers.
5 Los Angeles Kings $ Magnus Svensson-Paajarvi, F, Timra (Sweden) -2 SKINNY: Good size and skill; could play in the NHL next season.
6 Phoenix Coyotes # Dmitry Kulikov, D, Drummondville (QMJHL) +14 SKINNY: Stocked with young forwards, Coyotes take big, offensive-minded blueliner.
7 Toronto Maple Leafs + Brayden Schenn, C, Brandon (WHL) +2 SKINNY: Leafs can't let Luke's offensively gifted younger brother pass.
8 Dallas Stars # Zack Kassian, RW, Peterborough (OHL) -- SKINNY: Toughest player in the Draft, reminiscent of a young Brenden Morrow.
9 Ottawa Senators $ Jared Cowen, D, Spokane (WHL) -4 SKINNY: Senators find complement to last year's first pick, Erik Karlsson.
10 Edmonton Oilers # Carter Ashton, RW, Lethbridge (WHL) +4 SKINNY: Oilers need power forward to make them tougher to play against.
11 Nashville Predators # John Moore, D, Chicago (USHL) +4 SKINNY: Predators grab best skater in the Draft.
12 Minnesota Wild Jordan Schroeder, C, Minnesota (WCHA) -1 SKINNY: Small scorer has shown he can excel against bigger, stronger players.
13 Buffalo Sabres $ Ryan Ellis, D, Windsor (OHL) -1 SKINNY: Electrifying offensive skills outweigh size issues.
14 Florida Panthers Simon Despres, D, Saint John (QMJHL) -7 SKINNY: Could big, mobile defenseman be eventual Bouwmeester replacement?
15 Anaheim Ducks # Chris Kreider, C, Philips Andover Academy (Mass.) +6 SKINNY: Big forward can skate like a smaller player.
16 Columbus Blue Jackets $ Scott Glennie, RW, Brandon (WHL) -3 SKINNY: Speedy scorer excelled in WHL playoffs.
17 St Louis Blues $ Jacob Josefson, C, Djurgardens (Sweden) -7 SKINNY: Blues always seem to have luck with imports.
18 Montréal Canadiens $ Louis Leblanc, C, Omaha (USHL) NR SKINNY: Quick forward going to Harvard, but talent means he won't be there long.
19 New York Rangers $ Nazem Kadri, C, London (OHL) +3 SKINNY: If forward can develop physically, he has skills to be an offensive force.
20 Calgary Flames # Zach Budish, Edina (Minn.) H.S. +4 SKINNY: Needs Scouting Combine to show he's fully healed from knee injury.
21 Philadelphia Flyers # Edward Pasquale, G, Saginaw (OHL) NR SKINNY: Flyers in desperate need of young goaltending talent.
22 Vancouver Canucks $ Oliver Ekman-Larsson, D, Leksand (Sweden) -3 SKINNY: Teams can't have enough talented blueliners.
23 New Jersey Devils Landon Ferraro, C, Red Deer (WHL) -5 SKINNY: Outstanding defensively with potentially high-end offensive skills.
24 Washington Capitals Jordan Caron, C, Rimouski (QMJHL) NR SKINNY: Big, strong center excels at both ends of the ice.
25 Boston Bruins Stefan Elliott, D, Saskatoon +1 SKINNY: Scouts say difference between Ellis and Elliott's skill level is very small.
26 N.Y. Islanders (from SJS/OTT) Robin Lehner, G, Frolunda Jr. (Sweden) +2 SKINNY: Giant (6-4, 220) goalie fills giant development hole.
27 Carolina Hurricanes $ David Rundblad, D, Skelleftea (Sweden) -11 SKINNY: Needs work in defensive zone, but has great offensive upside.
28 Pittsburgh Penguins Carl Klingberg, LW, Frolunda Jr. (Sweden) NR SKINNY: Big forward (6-3, 205) an organizational necessity.
29 Chicago Blackhawks Philippe Paradis, C, Shawinigan (QMJHL) -6 SKINNY: Big forward with heavy shot very impressive at Top Prospects Game.
30 Detroit Red Wings $ Calvin De Haan, D, Oshawa (OHL) NR SKINNY: Surprise of the OHL season rising in eyes of scouts.



This block of four consecutive mock picks standout:
16 Columbus Blue Jackets $ Scott Glennie, RW, Brandon (WHL) -3 SKINNY: Speedy scorer excelled in WHL playoffs.
17 St Louis Blues $ Jacob Josefson, C, Djurgardens (Sweden) -7 SKINNY: Blues always seem to have luck with imports.
18 Montréal Canadiens $ Louis Leblanc, C, Omaha (USHL) NR SKINNY: Quick forward going to Harvard, but talent means he won't be there long.
19 New York Rangers $ Nazem Kadri, C, London (OHL) +3 SKINNY: If forward can develop physically, he has skills to be an offensive force.

IMO, these four teams would be blessed to get the respective player at that position. Could you imagine STL adding Josefson to that young corp of forwards, or Columbus addding Glennie to their young group that includes Filatov?


Some notable 1st Round omissions:
  • Peter Holland C
  • Ethan Werek C
  • Kyle Palmieri C
  • Drew Shore C
  • Tim Erixon D
  • Dylan Olsen D
  • Nick Leddy D


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I read it a few days ago, definitely a good one. A line with Josefson, Eller, and Oshie would be nasty.

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Looks to me like he's gone out of his way to rig up 'perfect media fits' like Schroeder to Minnesota and Schenn to Toronto. I'd also be really surprised to see the Sens go with a guy like Cowen in this spot given the serious lack of high end offensive talent in their system.

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Isles won't take a goalie with the #26. They'll take one somewhere in rounds 2-4 but with DiPietro set for 13 more years, there's no point in using a first rounder on agoalie unless they have real concerns over his health.

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Pretty believable actually. Some comments:


-Atlanta would probably take MSP over Kane... hard to say
-Kulikov before Cowen & Moore over Ellis? Hard to see those, but the injury/size issues could scare teams away for sure
-Kadri to 19th???? no way


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Isles won't take a goalie with the #26. They'll take one somewhere in rounds 2-4 but with DiPietro set for 13 more years, there's no point in using a first rounder on agoalie unless they have real concerns over his health.
LOL

It's still laughable.

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Isles won't take a goalie with the #26. They'll take one somewhere in rounds 2-4 but with DiPietro set for 13 more years, there's no point in using a first rounder on agoalie unless they have real concerns over his health.
Agreed..

Personally I think they'll end up taking Tavares #1, but if they go Hedman they'll probably take a forward late 1st. There's just too many holes in the Isles system to burn a 1st on developing a position as tricky as Goalie.

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I'm not so sure about the Pens' pick just because it seems like the Pens don't draft Europeans with high picks unless it is a no brainer(Malkin). Shero seems to have a strong focus on CHL and NCAA players.


Am I wrong on this and if not why do you guys think that is?

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Both the Blues and Blue Jackets seem to be overflowing in young forwards, personally I see defenseman in the card for both Central division clubs on draft day.

I'm glad to see the Ekman-Larsson hype hasnt swayed everyone. I still have him at the 12-15 range, but IMO he is not a "Lock" to go top 10.

Would be a nice addition to a slim prospect pool for the Canucks, I see them going for de Haan who is likely to be there at 22, whereas Rundblad and OEL are likely off the board, considering the need for defensman that the teams picking immediately in front of them have (Philly, Calgary, St Louis and Columbus to name a few).

Kulikov at 6th and to a lesser extent JOhn Moore at 11, I dont think are off the board picks. Kulikov is, if not the top, in top 3 for offensive d-man available in this years draft. This is an organizational hole for the Phoenix/Hamilton franchise, who seem to be stocked with talented young forwards. To me I think Phoenix either selects Kulikov or Cowen, but with the potential they move to southern Ontario, it would be pretty cool to see them grab Schenn.

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IMO de Haan and Rundblad much too low.

I think Tim Erixon and Dylan Olsen break into the top-30, and Erixon possibly in the late teens as well.

He's got good reasoning behind a lot of his picks, though. Mocks are easy to pick apart after the fact, so good effort.

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Both the Blues and Blue Jackets seem to be overflowing in young forwards, personally I see defenseman in the card for both Central division clubs on draft day.

I'm glad to see the Ekman-Larsson hype hasnt swayed everyone. I still have him at the 12-15 range, but IMO he is not a "Lock" to go top 10.

Would be a nice addition to a slim prospect pool for the Canucks, I see them going for de Haan who is likely to be there at 22, whereas Rundblad and OEL are likely off the board, considering the need for defensman that the teams picking immediately in front of them have (Philly, Calgary, St Louis and Columbus to name a few).

Kulikov at 6th and to a lesser extent JOhn Moore at 11, I dont think are off the board picks. Kulikov is, if not the top, in top 3 for offensive d-man available in this years draft. This is an organizational hole for the Phoenix/Hamilton franchise, who seem to be stocked with talented young forwards. To me I think Phoenix either selects Kulikov or Cowen, but with the potential they move to southern Ontario, it would be pretty cool to see them grab Schenn.
What makes you think the Blues need defensemen? EJ, Pietrangelo, Cole, Polak, Junland, Fairchild, K. Berglund, Warsofsky, etc. That's a pretty killer top four, actually.

As a Blues fan, I'd be totally cool seeing them grab a defenseman, but that's because they don't have any holes at any skater position and they should be drafting best-player-available. But I don't agree that they have an organizational need for defensemen.

If anything, they need a speedy, scoring winger with a bit of grit.

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Kulikov that high is a bit surprising but that's exactly where I have him. He's the whole package (passing, skating, shooting, hitting) and he's a total workhorse.

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I sincerely hope the Oilers would take Schroeder over Ashton.

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Looks to me like he's gone out of his way to rig up 'perfect media fits' like Schroeder to Minnesota and Schenn to Toronto. I'd also be really surprised to see the Sens go with a guy like Cowen in this spot given the serious lack of high end offensive talent in their system.
I would love to see the Sens draft Cowen. They have some decent prospects for offensive defencemen, from the obvious like Karlsson to someone like unlikely like Anikeyenko who would be great to bring over. Plus if Cowen is available at 9th he is the best player available.

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Wow Despres has really rocketed up the standings. Last time I saw a mock draft they had the Pens getting him.

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Kassian, Ashton and Kreider are my top 3 picks for the Habs...i'd be pretty dissapointed if they were all selected before we came up to pick.

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Wow Despres has really rocketed up the standings. Last time I saw a mock draft they had the Pens getting him.
That's where he should be. People are finally waking up.

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I seriously doubt the Canes would pick a euro.

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That's where he should be. People are finally waking up.
Damn, I was pretty content with the idea of Despres.

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Pretty believable actually. Some comments:


-Atlanta would probably take MSP over Kane... hard to say
-Kulikov before Cowen & Moore over Ellis? Hard to see those, but the injury/size issues could scare teams away for sure
-Kadri to 19th???? no way



LOL

It's still laughable.
My bad. I thought that Tavares becoming a non-Leaf was the funny part.

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I think it's one of, if not the best, out there currently.

I'm happy as a Leaf fan, but also kinda scared if Ottawa got Cowen. Battles with Luke would be a much needed kick in the pants to that rivalry.

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I would love to see the Sens draft Cowen. They have some decent prospects for offensive defencemen, from the obvious like Karlsson to someone like unlikely like Anikeyenko who would be great to bring over. Plus if Cowen is available at 9th he is the best player available.
I can certainly agree he's the BPA if he falls to 9, to the point where i'm wondering if it would be worth trading back a few spots to let someone else take Cowen, draft someone like Glennie/Schroeder and pick up some extra goodies.

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I can't see the Flyers drafting a goalie with the #21 overall, especially with OEL still on the board. He has to acquire at least one goalie this offseason via trade or UFA, anyway.

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This makes me hate the 1st + McAmmond for Comrie + Campoli even more. Dammit, Murray, you idiot.

Anyway, I would hope that if Peter Holland drops out of the first round, Ottawa does whatever it takes to get him in the second.

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This list mock draft fails for use of drafting by need.

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I would love to see the Sens draft Cowen. They have some decent prospects for offensive defencemen, from the obvious like Karlsson to someone like unlikely like Anikeyenko who would be great to bring over. Plus if Cowen is available at 9th he is the best player available.
I agree.. I'd be jumping for joy if Cowen fell to us.. unfortunately I don't think he'll be around past #6...

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