How about some past European results. For some reason North Americans are dominant compared to their European counter parts. I expect big things from Myllari and Mattias Lindstrom in strength categories. Myllari's dad was a swedish wrestler.
I'm 19 and i can do 150 lbs 19 times and I weigh 160.
I just don't think that is very impressive considering these players are semi pro already.
Not trying to say you're lying or anything, but generally I find when someone claims they can do so-and-so amount they are being pretty generous, and it's the often the amount they can do on a good day when they haven't already done a lot of other exercise (which these guys will have to do).
id LOVE to see a video of you benching 150 for 19 reps with strict form at 160 bw...
Agreed, I'm 20 years old and have been involved in athletics all my life and pretty strict weight training since about 17. I weigh 168lbs. and i doubt I could push off 19 reps at 150lbs. Fatigue more then anything would become an issue.
I can do 185lbs. for 3 sets of 10 reps and i can say I don't think I'd manage 19 reps of 150lbs. But if he can all the best to him.
Every time there is a thread on this, someone posts head to heads of Hodgson and Wilson's stats at the combine and Hodgson beat him at a few of the upper body strength tests, which shocked me, hopefully someone can find these stats.
The bench press etc. are also timed with a metronome. If you don't do them within a certain amount of time and with the rhythm, they aren't counted. Most of the numbers that people quote as being able to do in the annual thread on this would be a lot lower if done in the same fashion as these kids do.
Pffft. Why bring the reality of the testing into the thread? Regardless of how many times it is pointed out that they have to do them to a certain form and in a certain manner, people still don't seem to understand.
Similarly, the claims of "so-and-so will do well and so-and-so won't" prior to the release of the results is... mindboggling.
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"I seem to recall Zach Boychuk having a very strong combine as well. I remember Pierre McGuire was impressed at how ripped he was."
Does anyone know if this year events were pushed back? Last year there were daily updates with video and interviews - so far, nothing.
Also, just to join the fun. I lift regularly and would recomend 'German Volume Training' to anyone looking to bulk up and add muscle to their frame, just be prepared to puke (the 4 second negative is a killer). In so saying I end my current bench press with a set of 21's at 135, same for incline. If you can do sets at 225 then 150 isn't as tough, but these guys are still young and the slower timing is a huge factor. Next time you're on the bench do a slower negative, don't let the bar hit your chest and you'll see.
They'r probably doing all of the player interviews first with the testing done at the end. I think TSN will have a blog tomorrow (thursday) about the Combine.
Similarly, the claims of "so-and-so will do well and so-and-so won't" prior to the release of the results is... mindboggling.
Well, judging by the articles I've seen so far regarding the combine, John Tavares is the only prospect attending. So it's safe to say he'll have the best results.
Seriously though, I know Tavares has all the hype behind him, but would it really kill them to mention or get a quote from any one of the other 103 prospects there?
I will point out one thing that I don't think has been mentioned yet.
Quite often a poor score on something in the combine will actually increase a player's stock.
For example, A Dany Heatley who wasn't able to do any bench presses, yet absolutely lights it up on the ice helped him increase his stock because GM's thought that he would get even better when he started actually working out, which happened.
Alternatively a player like Zach Boychuk can't really get in any better conditioning, or physical shape, so what you see on the ice is what you'll get, and he won't improve with more conditioning.
I will point out one thing that I don't think has been mentioned yet.
Quite often a poor score on something in the combine will actually increase a player's stock.
For example, A Dany Heatley who wasn't able to do any bench presses, yet absolutely lights it up on the ice helped him increase his stock because GM's thought that he would get even better when he started actually working out, which happened.
Alternatively a player like Zach Boychuk can't really get in any better conditioning, or physical shape, so what you see on the ice is what you'll get, and he won't improve with more conditioning.
id LOVE to see a video of you benching 150 for 19 reps with strict form at 160 bw...
LOL we'll i'll take that as a compliment.
But really, the difference is, I'm not tired out like these guys are before they started lifting. I don't have to do a vertical jump or V02 testing etc. So I'm sure Hodgsons, Schenn could bench more when they are fresh.
I will point out one thing that I don't think has been mentioned yet.
Quite often a poor score on something in the combine will actually increase a player's stock.
For example, A Dany Heatley who wasn't able to do any bench presses, yet absolutely lights it up on the ice helped him increase his stock because GM's thought that he would get even better when he started actually working out, which happened.
Alternatively a player like Zach Boychuk can't really get in any better conditioning, or physical shape, so what you see on the ice is what you'll get, and he won't improve with more conditioning.