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2009 Wings Roster 2: Signings/Negotiations/Trades

Continued from this thread. I will repost the contract numbers tables and data, all numbers will update as roster deals are made.

Red Wings salary cap info from NHLscap/hockeybuzz Red Wings page

Detroit Red Wings Payroll:


2009-2010 Actual Payroll: $ 53,750,000
2009-2010 Salary Cap Payroll: $ 51,254,544
2009-2010 Cap Space: unknown

2010-2011 Actual Payroll: $ 41,550,000
2010-2011 Salary Cap Payroll: $ 38,287,878



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Red Wings Central's Salary Cap Calculator 2009-10

Red Wings Central's Buyout Calculator

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Red Wings Contracts on the Book
PLAYEREXPIRES'09-10 CAP
D Nicklas Lidstrom2010$7.45M
F Marian Hossa2009$7.45M
F Pavel Datsyuk2014$6.70M
F Henrik Zetterberg2021$6.08M
D Brian Rafalski2012$6.00M
F Johan Franzen2020$3.95M
D Brad Stuart2012$3.75M
D Nicklas Kronwall2012$3.00M
F Dan Cleary2013$2.80M
F Tomas Holmstrom2010$2.25M
F Valtteri Filppula2013$3.00M
F Kris Draper2011$1.58M
G Chris Osgood2011$1.41M
D Andreas Lilja2010$1.25M
F Mikael Samuelsson2009$1.20M
F Jiri Hudler2009$1.02M
F Kirk Maltby2010$883k
D Chris Chelios2009$750k
G Ty Conklin2009$750k
D Brett Lebda2010$650k
F Darren Helm2010$599k
F Tomas Kopecky2009$500k
F Darren McCarty2009$575k
D Derek Meech2010$483k

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Red Wings' UFAs (and current cap hit)
Forwards:
Hossa = $ 7,450,000
Samuelsson = $ 1,200,000
McCarty = $ 575,000
Haydar = $ 525,000
Downey = $ 500,000
Kopecky = $ 500,000

Defence/Goalies:
Chelios = $ 750,000
Conklin = $ 750,000

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Red Wings' RFAs (and current cap hit)
Forwards:
Hudler = $ 1,015,000 (arbitration eligible)
Leino = $ 875,000 (arbitration eligible)
McGrath = $ 633,333
Oulahen = $ 522,500 (arbitration eligible)
Gelech = $ 487,500

Defence/Goalies: none

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Red Wings' 2010-2011 UFAs
Forwards: Holmstrom, Maltby
Defence/Goalies: Lebda, Lidstrom, Lilja

Red Wings' 2010-2011 RFAs
Forwards: Abdelkader, Helm, Ryno, Tardif, Ritola
Defence/Goalies: Larsson, Kindl, Kolasau, Meech

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Red Wings NTC/NMC Contracts

Pre-2009 Deals
Daniel Cleary, DET - NTC [in effect until 30 days prior to the 2011-12 trade deadline]
Pavel Datsyuk - NMC [until end of 2010-11 season, then has a partial NTC]
Kris Draper - NTC
Marian Hossa - NMC
Nicklas Lidstrom - NMC
Brian Rafalski - NTC
Brad Stuart - NTC [for 2008-09 and 2009-10 seasons]

New Deals (dates unknown yet):
Franzen - NTC [until 2014/2015 then limited NMC] (exact year unknown)
Zetterberg - NTC



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You know, considering the Wings found a way to be successful post Konstantinov, Hasek, Fedorov, Hull, Robitialle, Shanahan, Yzerman... I just don't see the Wings epitaph being 'And then, once Jiri Hudler left, everything changed for the worse.'
Funny line, but the same can be said about Sammy.

Sarcastro made some great points countering that when Lang left, guys stepped up to fill the voids. The same will happen with Sammy.

Sammy is prone to costly errors, particularly on the rush in the form of offsides and especially turnovers.

Nill said this week that Helm would not be in the minors again, one must feel the same is true for Ericsson. Leino has looked fallible and may need more time in the minors, but overall although Sammy's size and defensive awareness will be missed, someone can fill those shoes.

Hell, people including Uncle Mike Babcock keep mentioning Sammy's size, but it's not like he can fight or stick up for someone. Aside from agitation he doesn't do much. He has reach because of his size, and skates well, but not much else for his size.

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A couple more toys:

1. Red Wings Central Salary Cap calculator:

http://www.redwingscentral.com/featu...ildyourown.php

2. Red Wings Central Buyout Calculator:

http://www.redwingscentral.com/featu...LCULATE+BUYOUT

3. Alternate Salary Cap sites:

RWC - http://www.redwingscentral.com/features/orgchart.php

NHLNumbers - http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.p...ET&season=0809

 
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We need to trade/sign for a player like Lucic or Oshie. What do you think it would take to get either?

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We need to trade/sign for a player like Lucic or Oshie. What do you think it would take to get either?
arm + leg

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done deal

Lucic is still on cheap contract next season, so what about 30th overall, Leba, and Kronwall for Lucic and one of their Dmen


Funny thing about Lucic, he was 10th on the Bruins for points during the regular season, but 4th in the playoffs.

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Oh oh.

Here's the first official glimmer of where the cap might end up, next year and worse yet, the season after....

http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2...preparing.html
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The cap could drop by as much as $2.5 million for the 2009-10 season from its current $56.7 million figure, according to NHL deputy commissioner Bill Daly. Although Daly couldn't say, it is not inconceivable that the figure could fall to $50 million for the 2010-11 season.

"At this point, we don't really have a good estimate of where the cap will be," Daly wrote in an e-mail to The Star-Ledger. "If the NHLPA wants a 5 percent inflator, and we agree, the cap should be relatively 'flat.' If there is no inflator applied, the cap will be down $2-$2.5 million."
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"I think the cap might go down maybe a million dollars or thereabouts,
" said agent Don Meehan, who represents Devils unrestricted free agent Johnny Oduya. "I don't think it will have a significant effect. I think next year is the year in question. Most teams, agents and players will be concerned where the cap is at in a year's time."

Of course, because of the fears for 2010-11, GMs are likely to be more cautious this summer.

"It could cripple you," Burke said. "Obviously, the best for all of us is if it doesn't go down, because that means the industry is stable. But if it does go down, part of our job as managers is we have to be prepared for that. So we are taking a real hard look at anything we do that impacts on the 2010-11 season.

"I'll be shocked if it's not a $2 million decrease this year. But I think all of us are alarmed about what it's going to be for the 2010-11 season because that will reflect what has happened. That will be a more accurate indicator of the times we are in."
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"I can't speak for the rest of the league. I know for the Toronto Maple Leafs, long-term deals make me nervous and anything that impacts big dough on the '10-11 season makes me nervous," Burke said. "The Toronto Maple Leafs intend to be careful with salaries and term."
So a cap as low as $54 million next year, or the same $56.7 million: and further decline the year after, with some pessimists thinking $48-50 million. Ugggh.

 
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$50 million cap in two years could be a serious pain the rear. On the plus side, that's the year we have numerous cap hits coming off, on the negative, one of them is Lidstrom - though I can't imagine him going elsewhere because of money at this point. I think he'd take whatever was fair in relation to cap space available. I think.

Have to say, this sort of prediction probably reallly puts a nail in Hossa's coffin. Another massive contract with a possible massive cap fall would be very hard to work around.

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I think next year's cap will be between 55.5 million and 56.7 million. Doesn't sound like a lot, but it could be the difference between us keeping a player like Lilja or trading him.

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If you look at the UFA/RFA list, I don't see how they keep some of the guys currently under contract and fill out the roster. They're at $51.2 million, so maybe $4-5 million in space....

Conklin comes back, or it's Howard. $750K v $716K
Hudler ?
Sammy ?
Kopecky ?

Add Ericsson - $900K
Add Helm - $599.4K
Add Backup Goalie - $716K

Maybe you dump Meech so E fits.... that gives you about $400 K of room

That's 9 forwards, 7 D and two goalies for $52.9 million... leaves $2-3 million for 3 more forwards....

 
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If you look at the UFA/RFA list, I don't see how they keep some of the guys currently under contract and fill out the roster. They're at $51.2 million, so maybe $4-5 million in space....

Conklin comes back, or it's Howard. $750K v $716K
Hudler ?
Sammy ?
Kopecky ?

Add Ericsson - $900K
Add Helm - $599.4K
Add Backup Goalie - $716K

Maybe you dump Meech so E fits.... that gives you about $400 K of room

That's 9 forwards, 7 D and two goalies for $52.9 million... leaves $2-3 million for 3 more forwards....
worst case scenario is re-signing Kopecky and Leino and bringing up Abs full-time, and keeping Meech as a spare d-man/#13 forward. But, I can't see us being unable to re-sign any of Hossa, Hudler or Sammy. One of the three, I imagine, will be signed. But, it won't be Hossa. That would create cap hell for us down the road.

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If you look at the UFA/RFA list, I don't see how they keep some of the guys currently under contract and fill out the roster. They're at $51.2 million, so maybe $4-5 million in space....

Conklin comes back, or it's Howard. $750K v $716K
Hudler ?
Sammy ?
Kopecky ?

Add Ericsson - $900K
Add Helm - $599.4K
Add Backup Goalie - $716K

Maybe you dump Meech so E fits.... that gives you about $400 K of room

That's 9 forwards, 7 D and two goalies for $52.9 million... leaves $2-3 million for 3 more forwards....
If the cap drops $2.5 million, unless the Wings trade someone, it looks like Hudler, Sammy and Hossa -- ALL THREE -- are gone.

Wonder if Detroit might trade Datsyuk to Washington for Backstrom?

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If the cap drops $2.5 million, unless the Wings trade someone, it looks like Hudler, Sammy and Hossa -- ALL THREE -- are gone.

Wonder if Detroit might trade Datsyuk to Washington for Backstrom?
You're not serious, are you? We are not going to trade arguably our best player.

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If the cap drops $2.5 million, unless the Wings trade someone, it looks like Hudler, Sammy and Hossa -- ALL THREE -- are gone.

Wonder if Detroit might trade Datsyuk to Washington for Backstrom?
1) Cap won't DROP

2) Are you freakin bonkers

3) We have a good crop of goalies in the minors

4) Are you freakin bonkers

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You're not serious, are you? We are not going to trade arguably our best player.
No, I'm just throwing out an idea. Team Sweden trades its top Russian to Team Russia for a great young Swede.

Go to the redwingscentral.com salary cap calculator and subtract $2 million from the cap. Without even signing a single RFA or UFA, we're just a shade under $2 million under the cap.

That's with nine forwards, seven defensemen and one goalie.
If you replace Hossa, Sammy, Conklin and Hudler with guys making $500,000, you're a bit over the cap.

Somewhere, the Wings need to save some dough. It could be a retirement (holmstrom?). But if not, it would have to be a trade. And not a guy like Maltby. A real player with a significant salary.

If you could get Backstrom and a second for Datsyuk, would you do it? I don't think I would. But I would understand it if the Wings did.

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2) Are you freakin bonkers

3) We have a good crop of goalies in the minors

4) Are you freakin bonkers
1. "At this point, we don't really have a good estimate of where the cap will be," Daly wrote in an e-mail to The Star-Ledger. "If the NHLPA wants a 5 percent inflator, and we agree, the cap should be relatively 'flat.' If there is no inflator applied, the cap will be down $2-$2.5 million."
The article also states the cap could drop to as low as $48 million the next year.

2. At times.

3. Jimmy Howard replacing Conklin saves us $36,000 in salary cap.

4. At times.

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No, I'm just throwing out an idea. Team Sweden trades its top Russian to Team Russia for a great young Swede.

Go to the redwingscentral.com salary cap calculator and subtract $2 million from the cap. Without even signing a single RFA or UFA, we're just a shade under $2 million under the cap.

That's with nine forwards, seven defensemen and one goalie.
If you replace Hossa, Sammy, Conklin and Hudler with guys making $500,000, you're a bit over the cap.

Somewhere, the Wings need to save some dough. It could be a retirement (holmstrom?). But if not, it would have to be a trade. And not a guy like Maltby. A real player with a significant salary.

If you could get Backstrom and a second for Datsyuk, would you do it? I don't think I would. But I would understand it if the Wings did.
If only a bit needs to be shaved off, a guy like Lilja will be moved. If it has to be something significant, it'll be someone like Cleary or Flip. Unless someone is offering something stupid, I can't see the Wings entertaining any trade scenarios with Datsyuk or Z.

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If only a bit needs to be shaved off, a guy like Lilja will be moved. If it has to be something significant, it'll be someone like Cleary or Flip. Unless someone is offering something stupid, I can't see the Wings entertaining any trade scenarios with Datsyuk or Z.
Cleary will be pretty hard to move after these playoffs, I'd say. Trading Flip is a possibility, I suppose. But it barely buys you enough to keep a Hudler. Lilja saves you $700,000 if you replace him with a $500,000 guy. But there aren't any $500,000 guys in the Wings system and ready to go.

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Datsyuk - Zetterberg - Tuomo Ruutu
Franzen - Filppula - Hudler
Cleary - Helm - Leino
Abdelkader - Kopecky - Ritola



Lidstrom - Kronwall

Rafalski - Ericsson

Stuart - Lilja



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Cleary will be pretty hard to move after these playoffs, I'd say. Trading Flip is a possibility, I suppose. But it barely buys you enough to keep a Hudler. Lilja saves you $700,000 if you replace him with a $500,000 guy. But there aren't any $500,000 guys in the Wings system and ready to go.
They won't trade Flip to keep Hudler. And, let's see where the cap is at before we freak out. It very well may stay the same. If it drops a million, Lilja will probably be moved, Hossa will walk, and only one of Sammy or Hudler would be kept for around 2 million or so. Kopecky and Leino would sign for a combined 1.5 million. Done deal.

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3) We have a good crop of goalies in the minors
Correct me if I am wrong, but I think you are mistakening Nicklas Backstrom(Goalie) on Minnesota for Nicklas Backstrom(Center) on Washington.

Also, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, Franzen, Hossa, Lidstrom, Rafalski, Maltby, Holmstrom, Osgood, and Draper won't be traded but their is a chance of 1 or more of them retiring. That is our core. Our future core is Filpulla, Kronwall, Hudler, Helm, Leino, and Ericsson. I really doub't we don't keep all of them. Our cheap players that wouldn't do no good trading are Lebda, Meech, Abdelkader, Howard and Kopecky. So who is left? Hossa, Cleary, Samuelsson, Conklin, Lilja, and Stuart. Conklin, Hossa, and Sammy are UFAs and we likely might not see them back. Stuart has NTC and I believe Cleary does too. So really we have no option but to trade Lilja

So if assuming the cap stays the same ($56,700,000) :

The Wings have 18 players (9 Forwards 8 Defense 1 Goalie) under contract. That is a total of $52,753,987. That leaves us ~4million for 3 Forwards and 1 Goalie.
Lets add: Howard for $716,666 Kopecky for $750,000 Leino for $1,000,000 and Hudler for $2,500,000 which leaves us at $57,720,653 which is $1,020,653 over.

Now the Wings have 22 players (12 Forwards 8 Defense 2 Goalies) under contract. Now we have 1 too many defenseman and need 1 more forward. So I think the only option is to trade Lilja for a) a cheap forward or b) for picks and sign cheap forward. So lets say they trade Lilja for picks and insert Abdelkader into the lineup. That leaves us at $57,320,653. But that is still $620,653 over the cap.

I think it is neccassary for Holmstrom to retire. Maltby retiring won't change anything because whatever replacements we find for him won't be any cheaper. If Holmstrom retires, we can find a replacement that is around $1,000,000 and I guess I will make it Sammy for $1,200,000.

http://www.redwingscentral.com/featu...ENERATE+ROSTER

Wow Babcock has a hell of an offseason ahead of him.

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They won't trade Flip to keep Hudler. And, let's see where the cap is at before we freak out. It very well may stay the same. If it drops a million, Lilja will probably be moved, Hossa will walk, and only one of Sammy or Hudler would be kept for around 2 million or so. Kopecky and Leino would sign for a combined 1.5 million. Done deal.

Who is freaking out, Scottwood?
I am posting a potential scenario. So far, nearly every discussion has revolved around the idea of the cap rising a little, or staying the same.
If it drops $2.5 million, that's a big blow. Leino, by the way, is going to get a raise from $850,000.

Here's the scenario you suggested. Cap drops a million. Hudler stays at $2M. Lilja traded.

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Pavel Datsyuk $6,700,000
Henrik Zetterberg $6,083,333
Johan Franzen $3,954,545
Valtteri Filppula $3,000,000
Daniel Cleary $2,800,000
Tomas Holmstrom $2,250,000
Jiri Hudler $2,015,000
Kris Draper $1,583,333
Ville Leino $950,000
Kirk Maltby $883,333
Justin Abdelkader $850,000
Tomas Kopecky $600,000
Darren Helm $599,444
DEFENSEMEN
Nicklas Lidstrom $7,450,000
Brian Rafalski $6,000,000
Brad Stuart $3,750,000
Niklas Kronwall $3,000,000
Jonathan Ericsson $900,000
Brett Lebda $650,000
Derek Meech $483,333
GOALTENDERS
Chris Osgood $1,416,666
Jimmy Howard $716,666
TOTALS
ROSTER SIZE 22
SALARY CAP $55,700,000
PAYROLL $56,635,653
CAP ROOM $-935,653
We're $1 million over.

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Who is freaking out, Scottwood?
I am posting a potential scenario. So far, nearly every discussion has revolved around the idea of the cap rising a little, or staying the same.
If it drops $2.5 million, that's a big blow. Leino, by the way, is going to get a raise from $850,000.

Here's the scenario you suggested. Cap drops a million. Hudler stays at $2M. Lilja traded.



We're $1 million over.
Well, Abs would be in the minors. We will only carry 12 forwards. So, take that salary right off the books. Then, if one of Kopecky or Leino do not get a raise, we will be under the cap. Barely. But, we would be under the cap., like I said.

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Well, Abs would be in the minors. We will only carry 12 forwards. So, take that salary right off the books. Then, if one of Kopecky or Leino do not get a raise, we will be under the cap. Barely. But, we would be under the cap., like I said.

I'm not sure Detroit can go all season with 12 forwards.
And I'm pretty sure Leino gets a raise, or he's unrestricted. Kopecky will want some sort of raise too.

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I'm not sure Detroit can go all season with 12 forwards.
And I'm pretty sure Leino gets a raise, or he's unrestricted. Kopecky will want some sort of raise too.
They did this year. Not saying they will, or would want to, but they did this year. And, I doubt both those players will get raises. Either way, Abs will be in the minors this upcoming year, and when that happens we will be right around the cap. We would figure out a way to fit everybody in.

If the cap goes down $2.5 million, then Hossa, Hudler and Sammy may all have to leave. But, I don't want to think about that until the off-season.

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