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05-26-2009, 08:58 PM
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Canadiens - Sharks

Marleau

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Kostitsyn Bros + McDonagh + Condition 1st 2010 (If Marleau re-signs with Mtl)

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**** no. Way too much for a choker.

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Marleau is not worth that type of return IMO.

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**** no. Way too much for a choker.
Come on, its not like we're talking about Alex Tanguay here.

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Come on, its not like we're talking about Alex Tanguay here.
Insert standard hf reponse

Tanguay has a stanley cup and scored two goals in a game 7 stanley cup final.

Marleau has a couple of 2nd round appearances.

Aside from that, no thanks.

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05-26-2009, 09:18 PM
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Insert standard hf reponse

Tanguay has a stanley cup and scored two goals in a game 7 stanley cup final.

Marleau has a couple of 2nd round appearances.

Aside from that, no thanks.
And since then has done what? I admit he started off great, but over the course of their careers Marleau has a better PPG average than Tanguay.

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Looking at the username, the proposal itself, and the fact that Marleau is already re-signed, something tells me that this is not a serious proposition/offer...

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Tanguay has a stanley cup and scored two goals in a game 7 stanley cup final.
Good lord, that was 8 years ago. Since then, he has been short of great in the playoffs.

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Come on, its not like we're talking about Alex Tanguay here.
Andrei Kostitsyn is gonna score 35+ goals the moment he plays with a capable #1 center (which excludes Plekanec and Koivu). Sergei is developing into a nice two-way forward. While neither are power forwards, they're certainly not soft as a lot of people on HFboards make them to be. Both have to perfect their consistency, Sergei in particular, but they're certainly not the only young players having this problem nor is it something that can't be fixed.

Ryan McDonagh is a blue-chip prospect on the blueline. Good size, good skating, good hockey sense and some grit. He has what it takes to be a 1st pair defenseman, although top 4 is more conservative.

Patrick Marleau is a PPG player - in his good years anyways - who doesn't show up when he's needed the most.

I'd give Higgins, O'Byrne and a 2nd for Marleau. At the very most.

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05-26-2009, 09:30 PM
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Andrei Kostitsyn is gonna score 35+ goals the moment he plays with a capable #1 center (which excludes Plekanec and Koivu). Sergei is developing into a nice two-way forward. While neither are power forwards, they're certainly not soft as a lot of people on HFboards make them to be. Both have to perfect their consistence, Sergei in particular, but they're certainly not the only young players having this problem.

Ryan McDonagh is a blue-chip prospect on the blueline. Good size, good skating, good hockey sense and some grit. He has what it takes to be a 1st pair defenseman, although top 4 is more conservative.

Patrick Marleau is a PPG player - in his good years anyways - who doesn't show up when he's needed the most.

I'd give Higgins, O'Byrne and a 2nd for Marleau. At the very most.
Yea, the Sharks don't want your trash.

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05-26-2009, 09:32 PM
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Yea, the Sharks don't want your trash.
And the Habs don't want yours

At least we agree on that.

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Why are you guys so anxious to ditch the Kostitsyn Bros? But hey I'll friggin take it no sweat. A month in Montreal though and Marleau will have a nervous breakdown, I'd put money on that.

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And the Habs doesn't want yours

At least we agree on that.
38 goal scorer who would be 3rd on your team in playoff points per game is trash? Interesting.

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Why are you guys so anxious to ditch the Kostitsyn Bros? But hey I'll friggin take it no sweat. A month in Montreal though and Marleau will have a nervous breakdown, I'd put money on that.
At the beginning of the season, people expected them and Carey Price to carry the team, despite their young age. I'm serious, it was thought Andrei would score like 40 goals (with Plekanec as center, HA!), Sergei to hit 60 points and Price to be a Vézina-caliber goalie carrying the team deep in the playoffs.

A couple of made-up rumors, an overblown "scandal" and an epic fail of a 2nd season later, they're scapegoats doomed to mediocrity for the rest of their career.

Welcome to Montréal.

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**** no. Way too much for a choker.
A choker who leads the NHL in playoff goals and playoff GWG goals since 2002.

But thanks for playing.

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A choker who leads the NHL in playoff goals and playoff GWG goals since 2002.

But thanks for playing.
I don't see how there are so many people that don't know this.


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05-26-2009, 09:46 PM
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38 goal scorer who would be 3rd on your team in playoff points per game is trash? Interesting.
Are you seriously telling me that Marleau was good against the Ducks?

Perhaps calling him trash was exaggerating, I'll admit that. But he's certainly not worth all these young players for 1 year (I'm not even going in the conditional first).

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05-26-2009, 09:49 PM
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Are you seriously telling me that Marleau was good against the Ducks?

Perhaps calling him trash was exaggerating, I'll admit that. But he's certainly not worth all these young players for 1 year (I'm not even going in the conditional first).
I'm sure his MCL injury had nothing to do with it.

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I don't see how there are so many people that don't know this.

I knew it. I also know that he got 9 goals in the last 30 playoffs games, when the Sharks were at their best (in the regular season, at least)

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05-26-2009, 10:57 PM
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Come on, its not like we're talking about Alex Tanguay here.
How in hell did Tanguay get into this thread? Every time someone calls out a player, there is always some guy that will throw random names (in this case Tanguay) and put another player down... Yeah right, your father is stronger than mine...now what? Marleau won't get you the package the OP proposed. This is MASSIVE overpayment.

...and Tanguay is better than (insert random players' name playing on the sharks).

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I'd like Marleau for Plekanec, Fischer and 3rd '10

Get'r done

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Good value for the Sharks for Marleau but he's not waiving his NTC to go to Montreal. It's probably a tad too much for Marleau from the Habs' perspective but it's amazing how undervalued he is around the league. Marleau shouldn't have been playing in the playoffs with the injury he had and he still was a fifth of the Sharks team offense.

I think if you knock out the 1st or McDonagh then you got a workable deal in terms of realistic value in a hypothetical trade that will never happen in reality.

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I'd like Marleau for Plekanec, Fischer and 3rd '10

Get'r done
HAHAHAHAH

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How in hell did Tanguay get into this thread? Every time someone calls out a player, there is always some guy that will throw random names (in this case Tanguay) and put another player down... Yeah right, your father is stronger than mine...now what? Marleau won't get you the package the OP proposed. This is MASSIVE overpayment.

...and Tanguay is better than (insert random players' name playing on the sharks).
The person I responded to called Marleau a choker, I am calling Tanguay a choker (except for one year he has been a playoff choker). The notion of playoff chokers came up, so I decided to name a player on the Canadiens who is known as a choker. So why don't you calm down and get your panties out of a bunch.

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I'd like Shelley for Plekanec, Fischer and 3rd '10

Get'r done
Deal.

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