Yes, I do but I am not a liberty to reveal my source. And, it has made me bitter and angry. I was barely able to watch the rest of the games this season with the Skating Judases in the lineup.
Is this source the same source as Eklund uses, or is your source Eklund himself?
Is this source the same source as Eklund uses, or is your source Eklund himself?
I don't doubt she has sources, she's very ingrained in the whole MSG thing. If she says it, I believe her. Besides, it's no surprise. I've heard hints at this for years. There are a lot of people who think Gomez is a selfish *******, in both the Devils and the Rangers organizations. Makes sense, he plays like one.
Not to rustle any feathers here but without sources I am sorry, I dont believe what you are saying by heresay about Drury.
Especially when others are choosing to be selective about things that we actually heard. Like if a quote doesn't support an argument, we can't take it at face value because of codes and honor. But then we believe rumors and speculation even though there is evidence or quotes to back that up.
Kind of odd what constitutes evidence around here.
And what are we supposed to be mad about here. That the guys wanted Renney fired or that they may have made comments about it? These guys aren't allowed to have an opinion? They can't have a disagreement about the direction of the team especially when they were in such bad shape? We want Gomez and Drury to be leaders but they can't think for themselves or care about the best interest of the team?
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So Renney says in clear and in no uncertain terms, that this is the team he wanted, and hes just being a stand up guy.
Christ this guy walks on water for most of you.
How about this for a compromise: Renney liked the players he had, he was excited to get them and he had input in those decisions. He also would have liked to have kept guys like Jagr and Shanny... in addition to the current make-up. Just because he was unhappy Jagr left doesn't mean he was unhappy with who we had.
And a year later I am still having trouble blaming Sather for Jagr leaving. He demanded a 2 year deal and I believe a raise. He is too flakey and has too many commitments to play around the world to risk a 2nd year. He actually has a multi year deal in Russia and he's trying to leave there. People would run Sather out of town with sickles and torches if Jagr left early on a multi year deal here.
He actually has a multi year deal in Russia and he's trying to leave there.
No, he's not. In fact, he's said all along that he will fulfill his contract with Omsk. The only people suggesting he wants to leave Omsk early are fans and members of the media based here in North America.
And, whether people like it or not, Renney was loyal to his players to a fault. He could have 15 carbon copies of Blair Betts, and the guy would tell you those were the players he wanted, to avoid any perceived slight of his guys. That's just his style.
Gomez was the ringleader. Drury, like a spineless worm, went along with Gomez. Naslund went along, too. What really pissed me off was Henrik buying into it. When all the interviews went down after Renney was fired, Henrik couldn't even look directly into the camera. He looked as guilty as sin.
Oddly enough, when they stopped playing for Renney, Drury also went to Sather saying that the players were unanimously against Avery coming back. I guess Sather has selective hearing. Either that, or he was really pissed at the players for sandbagging Renney and thrust Avery on them as punishment.
the bottom line is a coach needs to have a say as to the players he would like on his team. He needs to have a say in regards to style of play, and thus the players that can suit that style. If a GM decides to make these decisions without the input of his coach, then he's a bit foolish. And if the coach has too much say, then he's not doing enough coaching (i.e., paying attention to his team). The level of detail someone like Renney gets involved in the player-personnel decisions is not known. He's not scouting players, so he shouldn't be making that ultimate decision. He should be saying - "this is the direction I think we should go in, these are the types of players we have and what I like about them, this is what we are missing...". Renney liked the direction - moving away from a team that was dependent on a few and towards a team that had a bit more balance. I'm sure he liked what he saw on paper. But again, he saw Redden play a few times per season. He may've seen some video of him also. But I'd hope he didn't see enough of him to make a decision because if he did, who's watching the video of what he has, and who's working with his current players?
And, whether people like it or not, Renney was loyal to his players to a fault. He could have 15 carbon copies of Blair Betts, and the guy would tell you those were the players he wanted, to avoid any perceived slight of his guys. That's just his style.
Totally agree.
I liked some things Renney did as the coach, didnt like other things, but he did come off as just a geniunely nice guy. Nice to a fault.
I cant picture him standing up to Sather when it came to personnel issues. He probably served as a yes-man, which turned out to be a very bad thing when Sather used him as a fall-guy for the painfully inept roster that he constructed.
Torts is by no means perfect, but you can rest assured he'll give the GM a piece of his mind when Sather suggests hes going to sign Mike Cammalleri to a 7 year, 45 million dollar deal.
Wasn't it just last season that Gomez was the only one (at least that was named) that went after Malik in the locker room when he refused to shake hands with Renney?
Now a year later Gomez is supposedly the head of a "mutiny" against him.
Sometimes the problem with not naming names or having inside sources that can't be named is that the person relaying the information along with the person passing it to begin have their own agenda or bias to a certain player to begin with. Its like the telephone game where the information either grows like a fish story or changes from one telling to the next.
I liked some things Renney did as the coach, didnt like other things, but he did come off as just a geniunely nice guy. Nice to a fault.
I cant picture him standing up to Sather when it came to personnel issues. He probably served as a yes-man, which turned out to be a very bad thing when Sather used him as a fall-guy for the painfully inept roster that he constructed.
Torts is by no means perfect, but you can rest assured he'll give the GM a piece of his mind when Sather suggests hes going to sign Mike Cammalleri to a 7 year, 45 million dollar deal.
And this is why...perhaps the ONLY reason why...I have confidence in this management come July 1.
Tortorella will spell it out for Sather all the way through I believe. And Sather knew that from the first day of the hiring.
Gomez was also classless in his comments after Jagr left. Instead of being gracious and thanking Jagr for finally bringing success back to the Rangers, he gleefully said he and Drury were excited to be taking over.
As to the Malik handshake incident -- Gomez sure seemed happy that the press knew all about that, didn't he?
Drury and Gomez may go down in history as the worst "leaders" in Rangers history -- feeble leadership skills, lousy on the ice and bankrupting the future of the team with their exorbitant contracts.
Pierre LeBrun reported a few months there was a rumor with Gomez going to Florida,Bouwmester was going somewhere and another piece was coming to the Rangers.Then-Panthers GM Jacques Martin is now in Montreal.Gainey wanted Gomez as a free agent two years ago. The Habs have the cap space to afford Gomez.
Pierre LeBrun reported a few months there was a rumor with Gomez going to Florida,Bouwmester was going somewhere and another piece was coming to the Rangers.Then-Panthers GM Jacques Martin is now in Montreal.Gainey wanted Gomez as a free agent two years ago. The Habs have the cap space to afford Gomez.
Gomez better put Montreal on his list.
We can only hope...Gomez for the rights to Chris Higgins.
30-30 guy? Is that 30 points and 30 penalty minutes? I'm not a Chris Higgins expert, but in four full seasons he hasn't hit either 30 goals or 30 assists - even if you extrapolate a partial season.
I don't doubt she has sources, she's very ingrained in the whole MSG thing. If she says it, I believe her. Besides, it's no surprise. I've heard hints at this for years. There are a lot of people who think Gomez is a selfish *******, in both the Devils and the Rangers organizations. Makes sense, he plays like one.
But most of his points come from assists. So wouldn't that be more indicitive of a player who isn't selfish? I think the reason why he shoots more is because Tortorella tells him too.
Gomez has always shot the puck a lot. Though I think a lot of those shots come from him flying into the zone and his wingers are still standing around at the blueline, so he just shoots the puck.
I'm enamored with shedding that awful contract...Higgins is an RFA, and reportedly wants out of Montreal...I'll take him.
Where was it reported that he wants out of Montreal...link to a credible source please. No Eklund/Strachan/Brooks/other bullcrap. Montreal isn't giving Higgins away. Gainey loves him, and he has not asked for a trade. I don't think he's going anywhere.
And we sure as **** don't want Gomez. Bob isn't an idiot.
Gomez was also classless in his comments after Jagr left. Instead of being gracious and thanking Jagr for finally bringing success back to the Rangers, he gleefully said he and Drury were excited to be taking over.
As to the Malik handshake incident -- Gomez sure seemed happy that the press knew all about that, didn't he?
Drury and Gomez may go down in history as the worst "leaders" in Rangers history -- feeble leadership skills, lousy on the ice and bankrupting the future of the team with their exorbitant contracts.
I definitely think that Jagr leaving had something to do with presence of Gomez and Drury and their desire to make the Rangers "their team." Well, guess what, they sucked at leading their team and obviously lack the skill and ability to carry a team on their backs like Jagr did. Gomez and Drury couldn't lead their way out of a paper bag.
Drury has his "I'm not gonna let this ruin my Christmas" routine, yet Jane from Rangers Report says that he was rude to her because he was pissed off after a loss. Which is it, Drury? Are you just trying to say the right things to the press and covering up how you really feel, or are you just an ass hole? Either option is not an appealing quality in a captain. It's okay to be honest if you get angry after a loss, just don't try to sugarcoat it and pretend that it doesn't bother you.
Gomez is a clown, laughing his way to the bank. He rarely backchecks and takes bad penalties, but it's all good in Gomez's world. Keep laughing it up, Gomer, you have your money to count when you get home and the fans have to suffer through your endless turnovers. The joke's on us!!
