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Schenn, Kane or MSP?

View Poll Results: Who would you choose and why?
MSP 44 43.14%
Schenn 21 20.59%
Kane 37 36.27%
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06-04-2009, 12:39 AM
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I'm actually surprised MPS has more votes than Schenn.

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I'm actually surprised MPS has more votes than Schenn.
That's because MSP is awesome, I like Schenn too but I wouldn't hesitate taking MSP over Schenn.

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06-04-2009, 01:53 AM
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If Schenn turns out to be the player projected, he's the clear choice. As Scott said, a one two punch down the middle would be deadly.

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06-04-2009, 08:44 AM
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MPS because of his name. Really, my expertise can only add that beyond what I hope the Kings scouting staff has already done. I'll trust that they'll pick whoever makes the most sense.

On a side note, I worry about getting a guy like Kane given what other more knowledgeable posters have said about him in the past. Schenn and MPS have been hovering around the top-10 for over a year now, but Kane was in the 20s as recently as six months ago. Not sure what to make of it; either you can be happy about the trajectory of his development or you can say he's been recently overhyped.
There's overhyping and then there's making the Canadian team as an injury replacement and playing yourself into a regular role scoring 6 points in the tournament and showing up in big games. He didn't trail off after that, and that kind of success is all I need to see. For the record, I also like Schenn and MPS, but I'd still go with Schenn over the Swede. As others have said, any of the three will leave me happy. Let's just say I wouldn't want to be drafting seventh or eighth this year.

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06-04-2009, 09:49 AM
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MPS because of his name. Really, my expertise can only add that beyond what I hope the Kings scouting staff has already done. I'll trust that they'll pick whoever makes the most sense.

On a side note, I worry about getting a guy like Kane given what other more knowledgeable posters have said about him in the past. Schenn and MPS have been hovering around the top-10 for over a year now, but Kane was in the 20s as recently as six months ago. Not sure what to make of it; either you can be happy about the trajectory of his development or you can say he's been recently overhyped.
Not sure he was ever in the 20's...the lowsest I can find him ranked was 9th and that was way back in September by Bob McKenzie. http://www.tsn.ca/draftcentre/feature/?id=4844

I watched him play for the last two years and trust me, he will be great in the NHL....

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06-04-2009, 10:32 AM
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Schenn because I feel he's the safest pick and best fit.

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06-04-2009, 10:38 AM
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Voted for Schenn, but would like Kane as well.

It doesnt matter though as long as we actually take a person who can make an impact and not be a project (Hickey / Boyle / etc)

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06-04-2009, 10:45 AM
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Voted for Schenn, but would like Kane as well.

It doesnt matter though as long as we actually take a person who can make an impact and not be a project (Hickey / Boyle / etc)
I love how Hickey is already classified as a "project".

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06-04-2009, 11:18 AM
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Kane can play wing.

Kane > MSP

Kane is a Dean Lombardi type of player.

if Kane and MSP are both there, BPA is Kane.

Ukyo, Kane was seen as more of a durable two-way center, and less of a scorer. Now it's seen that Kane can score, especially within 10 feet of the net, which is what each GM is hot after now. Shot blockage is at an all time high. GM's want "hands-in-close" ala Detroit. Their point shots may be blocked, go wide, etc. but they have four or five players with world-elite quality hands.

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06-04-2009, 11:23 AM
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Then it's really between MSP and Schenn, and I say MSP because I hate the Maple Leafs, meaning I hate Luke Schenn, meaning I also hate his brother Brayden..
Yeah that's pretty ****ing logical.

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06-04-2009, 11:42 AM
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I don't think we can really go wrong with any of these guys.

Schenn has been, and will remain the guy I would like to have. He can play in all situations and I really like that Mike Richards type of center.

MSP may have the highest upside though, he reminds me of Havlat. Havlat is a very good player when not injured.

I still think Kane and Duchene go 3 and 4, but for some reason I still seem to like MSP and Schenn over both of these guys.

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06-04-2009, 11:45 AM
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it's all personal preference at this point bc i believe the scouts and lombardi know way more than the majority of us. but as far as those three go, i chose evander just bc of the name.

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I love how Hickey is already classified as a "project".

Drafted in 2007, no NHL games.

Highly unlikely to make the team in 2009 as a regular.

If a player needs time to develop he is a project regardless if it is 2 years or 5.

Regardless if you agree that he is a project or not, we can certainly agree that we need impact players right now and not players that are still developing.

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06-04-2009, 12:14 PM
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Highly unlikely to make the team in 2009 as a regular.
Only Voynov or an unforeseen UFA signing (including bringing back Gauthier) has anything to say about that.

Hickey is in next season's designs.

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... we need impact players right now and not players that are still developing.
Can't count on the draft for that. Typically you see, what, one or two players jump right in at 18?

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Only Voynov or an unforeseen UFA signing (including bringing back Gauthier) has anything to say about that.

Hickey is in next season's designs.


JJ
DD
OD
Quincey
Doughty
Greene

That is 6, all better and higher on the depth chart right now. Unless we see a trade, I dont see it happening.

We also may see the reemergence of Tom P.

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JJ
DD
OD
Quincey
Doughty
Greene

That is 6, all better and higher on the depth chart right now. Unless we see a trade, I dont see it happening.

We also may see the reemergence of Tom P.
Thomas Hickey has never played an NHL game and I promise you, he has a better shot at making the club full time than Davis Drewskie. This alone deserves a

No one's roles are set. teams carry 7 dmen in the regular season all of the time. we will not see the return of Tom P. Not all six of those players are guaranteed to be in Los Angeles at the start of training camp. Healthy scratches happen, etc etc etc.

Even if he starts the season in the minors, Hickey is most certainly in the plans to play some in Los Angeles. He's ready. The only thing holding him up is this perceived Log Jam.

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Can't count on the draft for that. Typically you see, what, one or two players jump right in at 18?


In 2008, all top 6 picks palyed NHL games.
In 2007, 4 of the top 6 have played NHL games (excludes Hickey and JVR)
in 2006, all of the top 6 picks played in the NHL.


With a number 5 pick I am hoping that we can find someone (Moeller / Simmonds) who can play minutes with the big club this year.

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Thomas Hickey has never played an NHL game and I promise you, he has a better shot at making the club full time than Davis Drewskie. This alone deserves a

As always, VictoryRose is all knowing and the possibility of these things happening are imposisble.

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No one's roles are set.
If they arent set than how are you so sure Hickey has a better shot than Double D?

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teams carry 7 dmen in the regular season all of the time.
Yeah... so they are going to let Hickey ride the pine as number 7? Or are they going to put him in Manchester getting top minutes and continue to develope him?

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Even if he starts the season in the minors, Hickey is most certainly in the plans to play some in Los Angeles. He's ready. The only thing holding him up is this perceived Log Jam.


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Highly unlikely to make the team in 2009 as a regular.

I like how your post starts off so strong that you are so sure and then in the end you work in some disclaimers....nice.

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I hate when people say "He's a Dean Lombardi type player", it's nonsense.

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a bunch of garbage that didn't refute anything I said.

That middle paragraph was simply there to point out all the things you forgot to take into consideration before lining up a bunch of initials and proclaiming Hickey's chances to make the team were small.

Your invocation of Preissing, is, well, Priceless.

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That middle paragraph was simply there to point out all the things you forgot to take into consideration before lining up a bunch of initials and proclaiming Hickey's chances to make the team were small.

Your invocation of Preissing, is, well, Priceless.
Witty.....really.


Well if you consider that Davis was getting more icetime than Jack Johnson the last stretch of games, it is a stronger indication of who we will actually see on the ice versus a player who has never played in the NHL. It is not as if I am pulling against the guy or want to see him fail, but a young defenseman like him, in this position, in this organization is not likely to be a regular on this team.

And until Preissing is actually bought out, traded, or tar and feathered, he will be in training camp, and he will be given a shot.

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Witty.....really.


Well if you consider that Davis was getting more icetime than Jack Johnson the last stretch of games, it is a stronger indication of who we will actually see on the ice versus a player who has never played in the NHL. It is not as if I am pulling against the guy or want to see him fail, but a young defenseman like him, in this position, in this organization is not likely to be a regular on this team.

And until Preissing is actually bought out, traded, or tar and feathered, he will be in training camp, and he will be given a shot.
I see Hickey getting call-ups and Drewiske playing the full season. Talk about composure!

And while Preissing will be given a shot if he is still around come camp, I expect (hope for) him to play the year out in Manchester.

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I see Hickey getting call-ups and Drewiske playing the full season. Talk about composure!


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