nevermind i found some video of kreider...thanks for the heads up
Still... that's not a full game. If there are really FULL games of Andover available, the guy should show us where they are. Really, what's the point of keeping it to himself unless he is lying?
From the small sample video, I'm not impressed. From reading reports, you would think the guy would be a much faster skater. The goal he scores in the highlights could be saved by a decent Midget goalie. The competition he faces looks horrendous. But this is a really small sample and it's tough to make any conclusions from it.
I think Holland would address Habs needs much more then Leblanc. Holland is more the power forward type. We'll see if we even have a 1st rounder come draft day. I'm convinced it'll be packaged off.
Life as a whole must be sad when you think that way.
It's blissful ignorance. Too bad it will all come crashing down one day when he ignores an oncoming bus because the ads are in english and not in french and it mows him down.
I think Holland would address Habs needs much more then Leblanc. Holland is more the power forward type. We'll see if we even have a 1st rounder come draft day. I'm convinced it'll be packaged off.
my 2cents
Sorry if I come off strong but this is something I absolutely hate.
WE DO NOT NEDD TO DRAFT ANOTHER ******* CHRIS HIGGINS OR KYLE CHIPCHURA WITH OUR FIRST ROUND PICK. WE NEED FIRST LINE TALENT, WE HAVE ****LOADS OF SECOND TIER TALENT. I'M TIRED OF WASTING ******* FIRST ROUND PICKS ON GUYS THAT WILL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SECOND LINER AT BEST.
Sorry if I come off strong but this is something I absolutely hate.
WE DO NOT NEDD TO DRAFT ANOTHER ******* CHRIS HIGGINS OR KYLE CHIPCHURA WITH OUR FIRST ROUND PICK. WE NEED FIRST LINE TALENT, WE HAVE ****LOADS OF SECOND TIER TALENT. I'M TIRED OF WASTING ******* FIRST ROUND PICKS ON GUYS THAT WILL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SECOND LINER AT BEST.
/rant
When you don't have a top-ten pick it isn't that easy to find guaranteed first line talent...
Sorry if I come off strong but this is something I absolutely hate.
WE DO NOT NEDD TO DRAFT ANOTHER ******* CHRIS HIGGINS OR KYLE CHIPCHURA WITH OUR FIRST ROUND PICK. WE NEED FIRST LINE TALENT, WE HAVE ****LOADS OF SECOND TIER TALENT. I'M TIRED OF WASTING ******* FIRST ROUND PICKS ON GUYS THAT WILL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SECOND LINER AT BEST.
/rant
I don't know what you're talking about. Yes, that Chipchura pick in 2004 is questionable. However, with Chris Higgins, it's a whole different story. He was definitely not a waste of pick.. get your facts straight. Higgins was by far the best player available at that spot. Actually, there are no players selected after him that turned out to be a solid 1st liner or a clearly better player.
Sorry if I come off strong but this is something I absolutely hate.
WE DO NOT NEDD TO DRAFT ANOTHER ******* CHRIS HIGGINS OR KYLE CHIPCHURA WITH OUR FIRST ROUND PICK. WE NEED FIRST LINE TALENT, WE HAVE ****LOADS OF SECOND TIER TALENT. I'M TIRED OF WASTING ******* FIRST ROUND PICKS ON GUYS THAT WILL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SECOND LINER AT BEST.
Sorry if I come off strong but this is something I absolutely hate.
WE DO NOT NEDD TO DRAFT ANOTHER ******* CHRIS HIGGINS OR KYLE CHIPCHURA WITH OUR FIRST ROUND PICK. WE NEED FIRST LINE TALENT, WE HAVE ****LOADS OF SECOND TIER TALENT. I'M TIRED OF WASTING ******* FIRST ROUND PICKS ON GUYS THAT WILL NEVER AMOUNT TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN A SECOND LINER AT BEST.
/rant
Look at all the first line talent the Canadiens missed out after Higgins was drafted: Jesse Niinimaki, Jakub Klepis, Boyd Gordon, Jakub Koreis, Daniel Paille, Sean Bergenheim, Ben Eager, Alex Steen, Mike Morris, Jonas Johansson and Jim Slater.
I think Holland would address Habs needs much more then Leblanc. Holland is more the power forward type. We'll see if we even have a 1st rounder come draft day. I'm convinced it'll be packaged off.
my 2cents
They have the same skill level but LeBlanc has more jam. LeBlanc is a lot like Mike Richards. Skilled but still plays with an edge. How do you figure Holland is a power forward, Red Line compares him to Kristan Huselius, a guy who lacks drive.
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and we will pick 18th. We would be lucky if he still available. He seems like a good value especially considering his work ethics.
There is also an undeniable value to him being from Montreal...
Most likely he won't be available when it is our time to pick...
If he still available and he is top 2 of our list at that time, why not pick him?
Timmins seems to like him in this. At the same time I would be surprised to see Timmins giving hints to other teams... Did he do that in the past?
Timmins seems to like him in this. At the same time I would be surprised to see Timmins giving hints to other teams... Did he do that in the past?
He said in an interview that in 2003, he was really praising Andrei Kostitsyn to the media because he didn't expect him to still be available when the Canadiens were picking.
I've watched him play all my life, don't try and give me your scouting report on him.
For those sayng Chris Higgins was a good pick, I don't care. I'd rather aim high and fail then get another second liner. This team desperately needs first line talent, Higgins is barely on the team with his fourth line role and we have others than can fill that spot just as well too so where has it gotten us?
My whole point is that's what we should be doing if were outside the top 10 picks. There's no guarantee that the player will even make it to the nhl, let alone become a star player. But sometimes you can find a Zach Parise or Claude Giroux late in the first round because you take a CHANCE. If we keep going for the safe picks nothing will ever happen and these guys will just get tossed around with our other second tier talent.
We are at a point where we can afford taking the high risk/high reward player even if he busts. Eventually, there will be some that develop the way that you hoped. Look at how Subban has developed defensively in the past couple of years.
If you don't think that's Leblanc, fine, you have your opinion on him as do I. But it pains me to see people praising the type of player we have drafted in the past and failed with. Yes, I consider Higgins a fail seeing how he can't steadily hold a top 9 roster spot by now. Maybe in the end there werent any better players after him, but that speaks of the weakness of the draft and not about Higgins. This is considered to be a very deep draft by many so I don't think this will be the case.
I've watched him play all my life, don't try and give me your scouting report on him.
For those sayng Chris Higgins was a good pick, I don't care. I'd rather aim high and fail then get another second liner. This team desperately needs first line talent, Higgins is barely on the team with his fourth line role and we have others than can fill that spot just as well too so where has it gotten us?
My whole point is that's what we should be doing if were outside the top 10 picks. There's no guarantee that the player will even make it to the nhl, let alone become a star player. But sometimes you can find a Zach Parise or Claude Giroux late in the first round because you take a CHANCE. If we keep going for the safe picks nothing will ever happen and these guys will just get tossed around with our other second tier talent.
We are at a point where we can afford taking the high risk/high reward player even if he busts. Eventually, there will be some that develop the way that you hoped. Look at how Subban has developed defensively in the past couple of years.
If you don't think that's Leblanc, fine, you have your opinion on him as do I. But it pains me to see people praising the type of player we have drafted in the past and failed with. Yes, I consider Higgins a fail seeing how he can't steadily hold a top 9 roster spot by now. Maybe in the end there werent any better players after him, but that speaks of the weakness of the draft and not about Higgins. This is considered to be a very deep draft by many so I don't think this will be the case.
Damn, it must be damn hard for people in your life to meet your expectations. Everyone that's not CEO's or doctors must be failures and disappointments for you, I guess?
Look, Higgins is a solid player, a great athlete and one of the good ones of his draft year. Get your hater glasses off and see that he's a useful player and a fierce competitor. Even though he's not the best finisher, he still does bring many goals/points every season.
How can you know who's gonna top off as a 2nd liner and not be a first liner before you give him a shot at it, when he seems to have all the tools? Tell us.
People need to realise that Higgins had a bad injury filled season. He should go back to being a strong 2 way 25-30 goal top 6 forward. There is nothing wrong with that.
That being said LeBlanc has the potential to be a #1 center. The reports I have heard on him have compared him to Mike Richards and Derek Roy, nothing wrong with that.
I think Leblanc would be a good choice, here's why,
1) His stock is improving, as I see it that's always a plus because it shows he is still improving his game.
2) He's going to Harvard, which means on top of his Hockey skill he's intelligent, something that helps with his hockey sense and anticipation
3) He's a hard worker, Humble, according to his coach in the USHL. A hard working center would be great to have on this team. http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=423360
4) He's one of the top ranked Quebec prospects, ( I'm a fan of BPA, but im so sick of the media that I think it be worth it just too pick him and get them to shut up for a while)
I've watched him play all my life, don't try and give me your scouting report on him.
For those sayng Chris Higgins was a good pick, I don't care. I'd rather aim high and fail then get another second liner. This team desperately needs first line talent, Higgins is barely on the team with his fourth line role and we have others than can fill that spot just as well too so where has it gotten us?
My whole point is that's what we should be doing if were outside the top 10 picks. There's no guarantee that the player will even make it to the nhl, let alone become a star player. But sometimes you can find a Zach Parise or Claude Giroux late in the first round because you take a CHANCE. If we keep going for the safe picks nothing will ever happen and these guys will just get tossed around with our other second tier talent.
We are at a point where we can afford taking the high risk/high reward player even if he busts. Eventually, there will be some that develop the way that you hoped. Look at how Subban has developed defensively in the past couple of years.
If you don't think that's Leblanc, fine, you have your opinion on him as do I. But it pains me to see people praising the type of player we have drafted in the past and failed with. Yes, I consider Higgins a fail seeing how he can't steadily hold a top 9 roster spot by now. Maybe in the end there werent any better players after him, but that speaks of the weakness of the draft and not about Higgins. This is considered to be a very deep draft by many so I don't think this will be the case.
First, Higgins isn't a 4 line player. He's a good second line winger or a very good third liner. The coach will have to give him a role though because right now, he don't seems to understand what he is. He can play any role so it's a good thing.
Second, knowing what I know today, there's only two players I'd take before Higgins in that draft (by keeping in mind our draft position), and it's Duncan Keith and Dennis Wideman. Maybe I'd take Stoll before, but I'm not sure because I think Higgins will rebound from his off year. Your turn now...which 1st liner of the 2002 draft should we have taken?
Higgins completed 3 years at Yale and has every intention of getting his degree. He resisted the temptation to turn pro a year earlier. I think Komisarek was under greater financial pressure at the time.
Higgins was at Yale for 2 years not 3. Also he was in the running for the Hobey Baker, so he was considered one of the top 10 players in the NCAA, in his 2nd year in the NCAA.
