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06-08-2009, 08:46 PM
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Golisano Rumoured behind NY Senate Coup

Apparently he's not going to sit quietly in Florida saving his tax dollars.
Republicans retake state Senate, aided by renegade Democrats
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The coup was watched from a back room by Rochester billionaire B. Thomas Golisano, the owner of the Buffalo Sabres, who had helped -- with $4 million of his own money -- the Democrats take control in last fall's elections. But Golisano recently said he has been stung by the Democrats, who he blamed for crafting a state budget that hiked taxes and hit upstate especially hard. Golisano recently moved his legal residence to Florida to save millions in income taxes.

"We were quite unhappy with the way the Democrats responded to some of the commitments they made to reform, both budgetary and process," Golisano said in an interview in Espada's Capitol office an hour after the Senate floor coup.
According to this report, Golisano masterminded the whole thing. Who knows, maybe something good and meaningful will come of it? Things can't get any worse here and at least its offseason entertainment.

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Lower taxes plz? Stage another coup so you can get property taxes lowered please.

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Lower taxes plz? Stage another coup so you can get property taxes lowered please.
yeah, good luck there 'eh

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A picture's worth a 1,000 words:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/09/ny...h.html?_r=1&hp

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Democrats tried to stall the move, storming from the chamber and turning out the lights...
Stay classy, Albany.



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Republicans who earlier this year were calling on Mr. Monserrate to resign after his indictment on felony charges that he stabbed his girlfriend with a broken glass are now welcoming him as part of their power-sharing coalition.
I can't say that I miss NY politics, but ours here in NC aren't much better. Former Governor getting actively investigated by the Feds, all kinds of **** starting to hit the fan around here.


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It's ****ing joke is what it is. I had Cali strong in the lead to go **** up and declare bankruptcy first, but now, who knows. Same old ****, different day.

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This guy loves to save money.

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Get behind Project 2010, folks - a grassroots movement to exercise our right in the NYS Constitution that allows citizens to abolish the current government & create a new one if the majority believe the current government no longer acts in the people's interests.

I'm firmly behind it.

And that's all from me here. Anything else should go in the Politics board.

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Great, now if only he'd mastermind bold and daring action by the hockey team he owns....

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Great, now if only he'd mastermind bold and daring action by the hockey team he owns....
Yes, a coup in the Sabres front office would be much more interesting for me.

I can just imagine Larry rushing in to the meeting room to turn out the lights.

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Stay classy, Albany.



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I can't say that I miss NY politics, but ours here in NC aren't much better. Former Governor getting actively investigated by the Feds, all kinds of **** starting to hit the fan around here.
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Monserrate, who has been indicted for allegedly slashing his girlfriend, said he was "proud to form a bi-partisan coalition" and proud that Espada is "the first Latino president pro tem of the New York State Senate."

Espada has also been in some legal hot water for not filing required campaign-finance statements on time and for questions about his use of state aid.
http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...e+after+2+flip

Yeah, let's just say it's...strange...how both senators who flopped parties are/were in legal hot water..

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I'm surprised that more people aren't upset about 1 billionaire having that much control over NY state. The guy has really lost my respect.

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I'm surprised that more people aren't upset about 1 billionaire having that much control over NY state. The guy has really lost my respect.
Yes. It's truly disheartening and pathetic.

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http://www.democratandchronicle.com/...e+after+2+flip

Yeah, let's just say it's...strange...how both senators who flopped parties are/were in legal hot water..
The non-disclosure of donations leads me down the path of Montserrat being purchased by B. Tom.

What a cluster.

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Yes. It's truly disheartening and pathetic.
As is pretty much everything about New York State politics.

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The non-disclosure of donations leads me down the path of Montserrat being purchased by B. Tom.

Espada is the one in trouble for not disclosing donations. He's corrupt, the guy he replaced was corrupt, and, given that he represents the Bronx, I expect the guy who eventually replaces him will also be corrupt. The Bronx political machine is something else.

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As is pretty much everything about New York State politics.




Espada is the one in trouble for not disclosing donations. He's corrupt, the guy he replaced was corrupt, and, given that he represents the Bronx, I expect the guy who eventually replaces him will also be corrupt. The Bronx political machine is something else.
Pardon. I flipped their names in my head.

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Of course, really the blame starts with Spitzer for pissing off the senate, associating with prostitutes, then leaving a really weak governor behind in Patterson.

I thought Massachusetts was a mess.

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Patterson better not turn a blind eye to this whole mess.

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Patterson better not turn a blind eye to this whole mess.
no cackling here ....... ?!?!?





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Of course, really the blame starts with Spitzer for pissing off the senate, associating with prostitutes, then leaving a really weak governor behind in Patterson.

I thought Massachusetts was a mess.
The blame starts well before Spitzer. How many years was it where the state could never pass a budget on time?

The state government has always been one dysfunctional mess--regardless who's the party in control. Albany is just one huge cesspool, and the citizens are the ones who pay the price. There needs to be real, fundamental change in the capital (and I'm talking re-writing the state constitution kind of fundamental change) before anything worthwhile will ever happen there. There's just too much power in the hands of too few people, and the only thing that ever happens in Albany are power struggles.

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The blame starts well before Spitzer.
I don't follow NY politics much, but Spitzer's problem - paying for sex - absolutely pales in comparison to most politicians. He went after some pretty big criminal targets, so if the worst thing they could find to take him down was a hooker - and a decent looking one at that - I'll take him over 99% of the other scumbums in office.

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The blame starts well before Spitzer. How many years was it where the state could never pass a budget on time?

The state government has always been one dysfunctional mess--regardless who's the party in control. Albany is just one huge cesspool, and the citizens are the ones who pay the price. There needs to be real, fundamental change in the capital (and I'm talking re-writing the state constitution kind of fundamental change) before anything worthwhile will ever happen there. There's just too much power in the hands of too few people, and the only thing that ever happens in Albany are power struggles.
26 years IIRC.

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Although I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why the government was monitoring $5,000 transactions by Spitzer, a man who is worth tens of millions of dollars and earns that much in interest daily.

I mean, it's wrong to cheat on your wife. But that's a private blunder.

Attempting to clean up Albany politics, while simultaneously being the principal force in bringing to light the massive corruption on Wall Street, that's a public crusade that will hardly endear yourself to the ancien regime.

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Although I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me why the government was monitoring $5,000 transactions by Spitzer, a man who is worth tens of millions of dollars and earns that much in interest daily.

I mean, it's wrong to cheat on your wife. But that's a private blunder.

Attempting to clean up Albany politics, while simultaneously being the principal force in bringing to light the massive corruption on Wall Street, that's a public crusade that will hardly endear yourself to the ancien regime.
Years ago (circa 2000), I know they were monitoring anything over $10k. After 9/11 <snark> changed everything </snark>, I can see the limit getting lowered to $5000.

Especially for a guy like Spitzer. If they can dig through that guys entire life and only find a single top shelf call girl - that's honestly almost impressive for someone in his position. Almost.

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