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06-09-2009, 01:02 PM
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I'd rather add another center before adding a winger, but you'd have to be nuts to not want Heatley.
I'd take him but much rather have Vinny because he's more complete and a better fit.

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Heatley is the definition of what we would be looking for. A proven super-star LW who has put up over 100 pts, multiple 50+ goal seasons, under 30, not afraid to go in corners or infront of the net. I have to think Lombardi is working hard to landing him if it possible, Gaborik is one of my favorite players but out of everyone we can possibly land via trade or UFA Heatley is easily the best choice.

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Yeah Heatley isn't exactly a character guy. I also like that because he's a huge hitter/power forward in video games, people assume he plays like that in real life. He's not soft, but not exactly a banger either.

Which is fine. He doesnt get knocked off the puck nor is he injury proned......I want goals!

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Because...?
Nothing good ever happens for Kings fans... duh!

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I'd rather add another center before adding a winger, but you'd have to be nuts to not want Heatley.
Word. Getting a top center would be ideal but maybe not practical right now especially when you consider we have 3 centers signed. Any move for a center would probably mean we would have to move Stoll since I think he is the only one without a trade clause.

The original discussion around here in the offseason began around a left winger. Time to strike while the iron is hot!

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06-09-2009, 01:13 PM
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Let's not under value Kopitar with a star winger. At this point, he has proven he can play. Put a top tier player for him to pass to and take the 2 man pressure off of him and watch him light it up.

Right now everyone know to shut down the Kings, you shut down Kopitar.

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06-09-2009, 01:21 PM
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I guess I'm nuts, I don't want Heatley unless it's for free. He's a one dimensional, softish offensive player. Yeah, he's really good at it, but how is that any different than Cammalleri, but at even more money?

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Which is fine. He doesnt get knocked off the puck nor is he injury proned......I want goals!
Me too!

I was referring to the TSN article saying "the power forward". Heatley is a sniper through and through.

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Just thinking out loud but, if we try to get Heatley, do we possibly have the inside track w/ Terry Murray being our coach? ( Depending on if Heatley would accept a trade to the Kings )

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I guess I'm nuts, I don't want Heatley unless it's for free. He's a one dimensional, softish offensive player. Yeah, he's really good at it, but how is that any different than Cammalleri, but at even more money?

That is just "Co Co for Cocoa Puffs" crazy.

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The one thing we'll have to remember is Dany Heatly would have at ok a trade here. Which then begs DL's favorite question, why does he want to come?

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Just thinking out loud but, if we try to get Heatley, do we possibly have the inside track w/ Terry Murray being our coach? ( Depending on if Heatley would accept a trade to the Kings )
HAH, I was just thinking the same thing. Maybe we can get a "brotherly discount"

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HAH, I was just thinking the same thing. Maybe we can get a "brotherly discount"
Was thinking maybe he'd give us first crack. But yes a brotherly discount would be lovely.

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Just thinking out loud but, if we try to get Heatley, do we possibly have the inside track w/ Terry Murray being our coach? ( Depending on if Heatley would accept a trade to the Kings )
If you don't trade us Heatley I'm telling Mom!!

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See, this is what I love about the off season. Heatly would be pretty sweet.

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I guess I'm nuts, I don't want Heatley unless it's for free. He's a one dimensional, softish offensive player. Yeah, he's really good at it, but how is that any different than Cammalleri, but at even more money?
Yah, but if we had to have a floater I'd want him.

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I guess I'm nuts, I don't want Heatley unless it's for free. He's a one dimensional, softish offensive player. Yeah, he's really good at it, but how is that any different than Cammalleri, but at even more money?
Wait... did you really just say that the only difference between Heatley and Cammalleri is that Heatley makes more money?

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Here's one difference, Heatley doesn't need a perfect cross-ice pass to score.

Heatley can also score standing on both his skates.

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I guess I'm nuts, I don't want Heatley unless it's for free. He's a one dimensional, softish offensive player. Yeah, he's really good at it, but how is that any different than Cammalleri, but at even more money?
No different than Cammalleri? You really are crazy. Lets start with size, then move to stats and then look at how they play the game. When all is said and done, I guess you are right.. they are identical.

I'm not sure there is a move the Kings could make that you'd be happy with.

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I guess I'm nuts, I don't want Heatley unless it's for free. He's a one dimensional, softish offensive player. Yeah, he's really good at it, but how is that any different than Cammalleri, but at even more money?
i wouldn't necessarily say soft, but yeah, there really isn't a whole lot separating the two... a sniper is as a sniper does. i guess Heatley's strength would be the ability at utilizing his size to maintain position within those soft spots in the offesnsive zone and his speed enables him to be a bit better one on one than Mike. i think Cammalleri's shot from within 30-feet (i STILL maintain that he's too small to use on the point) is pretty unparalleled for a player used in this capacity... and he's probably a bit better of a passer as well.

i like Heatley, but i honestly think Lecavalier is a better idea.

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i wouldn't necessarily say soft, but yeah, there really isn't a whole lot separating the two... a sniper is as a sniper does. i guess Heatley's strength would be the ability at utilizing his size to maintain position within those soft spots in the offesnsive zone and his speed enables him to be a bit better one on one than Mike. i think Cammalleri's shot from within 30-feet (i STILL maintain that he's too small to use on the point) is pretty unparalleled for a player used in this capacity... and he's probably a bit better of a passer as well.

i like Heatley, but i honestly think Lecavalier is a better idea.
I think the biggest difference is that Heatley is less of a floated. He can hold on to the puck and create shooting room for himself better than Cammy can. Cammy can't really open up space for himself, and needs to find a spot where no one will both him. Granted he is VERY good at that. But Heatley can do that, but also get some garbage goals, as well as get into the slot with traffic more readily.

As for Dany vs. Vinny, I tend to agree that Vinny would make the overall team better than any one winger addition would do, though I am much more starry eyed over Heatley than I am Vinny. Tough call.

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I'm with Legionnaire on this, Lecavalier would be the better option over Heatley. While Dany is an excellent sniper on his own, I think a bigger need is adding another top line center who will alleviate some checking off of Kopitar and also a center that can make his linemates better.

What group of top six forwards looks more enticing?

Frolov-Kopitar-Williams
Moller-Lecavalier-Brown

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Heatley-Kopitar-Williams
Frolov-Stoll-Brown

I'd rather have two balanced and efficient scoring lines than one top heavy line.

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I'm with Legionnaire on this, Lecavalier would be the better option over Heatley. While Dany is an excellent sniper on his own, I think a bigger need is adding another top line center who will alleviate some checking off of Kopitar and also a center that can make his linemates better.

What group of top six forwards looks more enticing?

Frolov-Kopitar-Williams
Moller-Lecavalier-Brown

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Heatley-Kopitar-Williams
Frolov-Stoll-Brown

I'd rather have two balanced and efficient scoring lines than one top heavy line.
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I'm with Legionnaire on this, Lecavalier would be the better option over Heatley. While Dany is an excellent sniper on his own, I think a bigger need is adding another top line center who will alleviate some checking off of Kopitar and also a center that can make his linemates better.

What group of top six forwards looks more enticing?

Frolov-Kopitar-Williams
Moller-Lecavalier-Brown

OR

Heatley-Kopitar-Williams
Frolov-Stoll-Brown

I'd rather have two balanced and efficient scoring lines than one top heavy line.
Not bad, but is Moller ready for top 6, thats what I'm not sure on.

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Not bad, but is Moller ready for top 6, thats what I'm not sure on.
That depends. Playing on Stoll's wing, I'd say no. Playing on Vinny's wing, I'd have to say he'll do just fine.

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Which would cost less, Vinny or Heatley I think both teams are caught by the short hairs with their players and their situations. Is it plausible to put two packages together for Heatley and J. Staal

Heatley Kopitar Williams
Frolov Staal Brown

Doughty
Green
Drewiski
Odey

not sure of the rest of the D

JJ
Quincey
Tuebert
Voinov
Hickey
Moller
Purcell
Stoll
Handzus
Loki

Picks and goalie prospects to boot. I think we could swing 2 deals.

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I have no idea what Ottawa would be looking for, but I imagine they'd be more interested in roster players rather than Tampa who needs prospects. I also think Ottawa is pretty set at D, and weak at forward, so they will be looking for a forward back. I fear that to get Heatley, Frolov has to be going the other way, whereas I think we could get Vinny while still retaining Frolov.

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