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06-10-2009, 02:49 AM
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Petr Sykora.....

I don't think he would be expensive and at 32 still relatively young and always good for 25 goals and given our inability with PP I think he would be decent guy to complement Gomez (provided we cant ditch him).

Don't know his status but I doubt Pens would either way ask for the moon for him.


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no to Sykora.been there done that,it didnt work.

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He's a UFA who has been a healthy scracth for half the playoffs.

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32 years old is not "still relatively young"

Hes on the decline at this point of his career, how about we keep Antropov who is just entering his prime?(also taking into the fact it took Antropov longer to reach his potential)

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He's a UFA who has been a healthy scracth for half the playoffs.
His shoulder is messed up, ain't it? That's why he's sitting out.

But yeah, I rather keep Zherdev or Antro instead of getting Sykora.

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no to Sykora.been there done that,it didnt work.
Huh? Didn't work? Really?

40 games played, 16 goals and 15 assists for 31 points. That prorates out to 32 goals and 62 points over a full season.

Seems to have worked just fine to me.

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Look I am not saying he is the best forward out there and a saviour. We need some goals and we dont have much room to operate
I assume we wont be able to ditch Gomez...so you need a player who doesn't have to carry the puck. I think Sykora would fit the bill and if it fails we won't have a 5 year commitment (hopefully)

He is a very good shooter. A shooter needs a set up and I reckon we can provide that.

Is he over the hill - No
Is he prone to injury - No
Is he fast? No!
Can he fit into Torts gameplan? doubtful
Is he expensive? No
can he complement secondary scoring - yes
Can he score goals - definitely!

I reckon he is good for 25 goals given decent ice time and I reckon at 1/3 of the price we paid for the same amount of goals in Naslund.

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Skyora is awful at this point.

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well so were we!

He doesn't seem that awful based on the numbers he produced in recent years.

08/09 76 G 25G 21 A +3
07/08 81 G 28G 35 A +1
06/07 82 G 22G 31 A -20 (Oil)
05/06 74 G 23G 28 A +6


It seems to me he would be one of our top 3 forwards.


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Skyora is awful at this point.
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I'm well informed. Sykora is a scrub at this point. He plays no defense. He stinks at even strength. He's soft. This all goes back to a lot of Rangers fans still wanting to build a Czech team. Sykora is the exact opposite of a Torts player. You should drop this idea immediately.

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Better places to spend the 3 mil it will take to get him to leave Pittsburgh.

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sorry he will not get 3 million at this point and I am not advocating we pay that kinda money for him. I reckon he can be available sub 2.

He is not Torts kind of player - I agree, but Torts needs goals too and he can't go out and spend unlimited amounts

Also we spent far more than that in Naslund (who WAS OVER THE HILL) and others

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Sykora is likely to do for us what Naslund did. Score 20-25 goals and be a perimeter player. It would be nice if we could get a vet who might set an example for our younger players--not only talent wise but with leadership and grit. Drury doesn't qualify anymore.

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Huh? Didn't work? Really?

40 games played, 16 goals and 15 assists for 31 points. That prorates out to 32 goals and 62 points over a full season.

Seems to have worked just fine to me.
and when they needed him in the playoffs to score goals,what were his numbers exactly?his numbers were fine during the season,no argument there.but he flat out stunk in the playoffs.im pretty sure the Rangers can get a better option then him at this stage in his career.

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Sykora will sign cheap with Detroit so he gets a chance to win the Cup (again).

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Sykora will sign cheap with Detroit so he gets a chance to win the Cup (again).
and on that team he will probably score 30-35 goals too.

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I'm well informed. Sykora is a scrub at this point. He plays no defense. He stinks at even strength. He's soft. This all goes back to a lot of Rangers fans still wanting to build a Czech team. Sykora is the exact opposite of a Torts player. You should drop this idea immediately.
Yeah this is pretty much it. He's gone downhill fast in recent years.

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His shoulder is messed up, ain't it? That's why he's sitting out.

But yeah, I rather keep Zherdev or Antro instead of getting Sykora.
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He's officially a healthy scratch but most everyone here believes that he's injured, which he himself denies. Sykora has played like absolute garbage since about the trade deadline, he's got 4 points in over 20 games since then. Playing wing to the Art Ross winner. He doesn't shoot, doesn't pass, doesn't hit, doesn't work hard along the boards. Something's up with him, and now that Satan is making the most of his chance, Sykora is firmly on the outside looking in.

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but to be honest, Sykora went through periods like that in NY too, where he didn't do much on the ice at all. Maybe he's injured, but he could also just be playing really poorly.

He's a perimeter shooter, so that's what you get

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and when they needed him in the playoffs to score goals,what were his numbers exactly?his numbers were fine during the season,no argument there.but he flat out stunk in the playoffs.im pretty sure the Rangers can get a better option then him at this stage in his career.
No one played well that playoffs.

Even Lundqvist got smoked.

Not a good sampling imho

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Lundqvist played great for about 5 out of the 7 games. Unfortunately, those two others were rough

Again, why not at least sign him and try to trade him later if you really want him off the team. At least that way the Rangers get something in return

edit: whoa I got my threads mixed up


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well so were we!

He doesn't seem that awful based on the numbers he produced in recent years.

08/09 76 G 25G 21 A +3
07/08 81 G 28G 35 A +1
06/07 82 G 22G 31 A -20 (Oil)
05/06 74 G 23G 28 A +6


It seems to me he would be one of our top 3 forwards.
Just 46 points this season playing on one of the most offensive teams in the NHL and playing at times with Malkin or Crosby? That would translate to about 20 points on our team.

Seriously, just by watching the guy this year you can tell hes not the same Sykora that played with us for a little while a few years back.

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I'm well informed. Sykora is a scrub at this point. He plays no defense. He stinks at even strength. He's soft. This all goes back to a lot of Rangers fans still wanting to build a Czech team. Sykora is the exact opposite of a Torts player. You should drop this idea immediately.
I'm well informed as well and a scrub that can score 20 Goals that we could possibly sign on the cheap is never a bad option.

Talent on our top three lines has been lacking and getting a guy like that that can play along side Dubinsky and Callahan on the 3rd line while manning the wing on the 2nd PP unit could be very useful.

It's all about perception. If you bring this type of player in here and expect him to score 30 goals, you're setting him up for failuer and yourself up for disappointment.

If you expect 20+ goals and 20+ assists while playing the 3rd line, then you have a win win situation.

And, just so we are all on the same page, Torts won a cup with a Sykora clone in Fedotenko. In fact, Fedotenko isn't half the player that Sykora was or is. They also had Fredrik Modin who is also not nearly as talented as Sykora is.

There's always a place on teams for talented players that may not be that physically minded guy.

I'm the last guy that would want a Czech dominated line-up. I like my north south type minded players and prefer that physical styled game, but even those teams need a mix of finesse that Sykora provides.

Again, my expectations would be to see him come in and net us 20/20 while playing the 3rd line with Dubincky and Callahan. Nothing more and since we don't have anyone in the system on the wing that can do that for us right now, he's as good an option as anything.

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Ruslan Fedotenko is a more realistic option considering he played for Torts in TB.He has had a good playoffs for Pittsburgh.1 year deal worth $2-$2.5 million.

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