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06-11-2009, 07:38 AM
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Jonathan Quick

Hello Kings fans, MTL fan here.

I just wanted to know what your thoughts were about Jonathan Quick. Now I know he became your no1 goalie last season and played very well down the stretch, and although you have a young team prone to make mistakes, he still put up some real good numbers.

Is considered by the fanbase on an equal ground as the no1 of the future with Jonathan Bernier, or is Bernier still ahead in that regard.

And How many games do you see him play next season ?

thx in advance everyone!

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06-11-2009, 07:53 AM
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Anything can happen. Right now he's earned at least the start of the season as #1. Terry Murray trusts him so I'd bet he goes with him unless Quick has an abysmal training camp.

Even if Bernier has a great camp, he'll still have to wait for Quick to lose a stride before he gets a shot at the starting job.

So expect Quick to at least start the season (barring injury) but if he doesn't come out strong and someone else does he will lose his spot. I recommend you come back around training camp time to see if anyone will step up and challenge him for the spot.

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06-11-2009, 09:12 AM
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I expect Quick to get better. Bernier has to play spectacular in camp to be the King's #1 Goalie. It's Quick to loose. That being said, Quick to play at least 45-55 games.

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Bernier still wins in the potential department, but as far as both goaltenders go right now, Quick is likely ahead. Dean Lombardi said at the beginning that he was going to make Bernier spend 2 years in the minors and I am sure he still aims to do that. Quick would have to trip and fall under a bus and Bernier would have to play like the next coming of Brodeur for them to switch places this season.

So, in the end, Bernier has the edge in talent and the spotlight -- it is what he does with it that matters most... Quick, however, has a good advantage after having a solid season under his belt and more NHL experience, but we all know what happened to Ersberg last year versus LaBarbera under Murray...

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06-11-2009, 01:30 PM
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Quick is a fierce competitor.

They'll go into this camp preaching that it's anybody's job to win (including Ersberg).

The idea is that this will push Quick/Bernier even harder.

Just going into camp saying Quick is #1 after half of a season in the NHL is the absolute wrong message, and one Terry and Dean won't send.

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06-11-2009, 01:33 PM
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Quick is a fierce competitor.
This is his most endearing quality and the one that will keep him around as an NHL netminder for some time.

I remember during one of the telecasts, Bob and Jim were talking about how hard Quick practices, and that he gets just as pissed off getting scored on during practice as he does during the game. He takes responsibility and works hard. A far cry from our previous goaltender.

I see him playing 60 games next season, and I honestly think if he keeps progressing, Bernier is going to have a hell of an uphill battle. Good for us!

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Quick is a fierce competitor.

They'll go into this camp preaching that it's anybody's job to win (including Ersberg).

The idea is that this will push Quick/Bernier even harder.

Just going into camp saying Quick is #1 after half of a season in the NHL is the absolute wrong message, and one Terry and Dean won't send.
I agree that will be the message they send, but JQ must be seen (big picture) to have the inside track, no matter what is said. Certainly, neither EE nor JB have any advantage over Quick, and I think that unless Bernier has an unbelieveable camp he's going to Manchester regardless.

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With all the hype that surrounded Bernier when we drafted him, were almost required to consider him our future franchise Goalie. Anything less would be a disappointment.

However,Quick played great last year and i fully expect him to be our starting goalie all season (Barring injury)

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This is his most endearing quality and the one that will keep him around as an NHL netminder for some time.

I remember during one of the telecasts, Bob and Jim were talking about how hard Quick practices, and that he gets just as pissed off getting scored on during practice as he does during the game. He takes responsibility and works hard. A far cry from our previous goaltender.

I see him playing 60 games next season, and I honestly think if he keeps progressing, Bernier is going to have a hell of an uphill battle. Good for us!

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unless Bernier has an unbelieveable camp he's going to Manchester regardless.

Well, they're both probably going to have very good camps.

Face it, these are both very good goaltenders. It'll take an "unbelievable" camp from either one to take the job from the other.

the best thing about this whole deal is no one is comfortable. You have to earn it. Even quickie. He knows he hasn't proven **** though, has a chip on his shoulder and will come prepared to play.

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Bernier still wins in the potential department, but as far as both goaltenders go right now, Quick is likely ahead. Dean Lombardi said at the beginning that he was going to make Bernier spend 2 years in the minors and I am sure he still aims to do that. Quick would have to trip and fall under a bus and Bernier would have to play like the next coming of Brodeur for them to switch places this season.

So, in the end, Bernier has the edge in talent and the spotlight -- it is what he does with it that matters most... Quick, however, has a good advantage after having a solid season under his belt and more NHL experience, but we all know what happened to Ersberg last year versus LaBarbera under Murray...
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i think that were anyone to catch one of the organizational heads in an honest moment and ask them to answer this question, i'm fairly certain their eyes are still on Jonathan Bernier first and foremost.

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[QUOTE=DIEHARD the King fan;19877481]I agree that will be the message they send, but JQ must be seen (big picture) to have the inside track, no matter what is said. Certainly, neither EE nor JB have any advantage over Quick, and I think that unless Bernier has an unbelieveable camp he's going to Manchester regardless


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I think some people are too obsessed about Bernier's draft position.

Would you give Bernier the inside edge on someone like Henrik Lundqvist just because Lundqvist was a 7th round pick and Bernier was a 1st round pick?

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You mean what if the Rangers had put more faith in Montoya as opposed to Lundquist!

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You mean what if the Rangers had put more faith in Montoya as opposed to Lundquist!
Exactly......just because Quick had less potential when drafted than Bernier does not mean that Quick is not the better goalie.....Do not forget that Storr was suppose to be the Kings franchise goalie.

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I think some people are too obsessed about Bernier's draft position.

Would you give Bernier the inside edge on someone like Henrik Lundqvist just because Lundqvist was a 7th round pick and Bernier was a 1st round pick?
Spot on.

Jonathan Quick may not have been a hyped prospect for us but he has the makings of a very good NHL goalie in the near future. He has all the tools physically, but more importantly he seems to have the mental makeup.

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With all the hype that surrounded Bernier when we drafted him, were almost required to consider him our future franchise Goalie. Anything less would be a disappointment
I don't really agree with this, it's not like the kings fed us all this crap about Bernier being the goalie of the future, or the media built him up to be the next Roy (See Price, Carey)

We hyped him up, the hype was on internet message boards. In reality he was a first round draft pick, 11th overall. Although that's pretty high if Quick turns into a solid #1 goalie, the only think I expect of Bernier is to become a similar solid goaltender and not necessarily the "franchise" guy we all pegged him.

That being say, I'd love it if he (or Quick) end up being worthy of the "franchise" tag.

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Hold on a second ... is this an LA Kings message board? Are we actually talking about a goaltending controversy? Screw it ... I think Jones blows the doors off of everybody and takes the starting spot!

(Yes I'm drunk ... just finished watching the sox beat the yankees AGAIN! Such a delight ... now if the Kings could do that to San Jose one year ... I would love that. I hate San Jose ... so much)

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I take Quick over the two current Cup competing goaltenders.

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When Quick gives me a reason not to trust him is when I'll start worrying about Bernier.

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When Quick gives me a reason not to trust him is when I'll start worrying about Bernier.
How about every time he leaves the net to play the puck?

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How about every time he leaves the net to play the puck?
AH! Damn you! How quickly we forget.

I'm not worried, puck handling is one of the more readily learnable skills for a goalie.

Maybe Dean can hire Ranford an assistant strickly for this purpose.

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How about every time he leaves the net to play the puck?
thats why that stupid trapezoid is there for

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AH! Damn you! How quickly we forget.

I'm not worried, puck handling is one of the more readily learnable skills for a goalie.

Maybe Dean can hire Ranford an assistant strickly for this purpose.
we already have Hextall...

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