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Proposal Trade between MTL and Ottawa (Heatley)

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06-13-2009, 12:51 PM
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Proposal Trade between MTL and Ottawa (Heatley)

I know, it's pretty rare you trade your best player to a divisional rival.

But just for fun... because Heatley is exactly what we need..

I don't see it coming because we are an eastern team and because we are a divisional rival of the senators.

But, you need to at least try to land him.

My proposal:

TO OTT:
Tomas Plekanec: Second center for the Sens to backup Spezza
Jaroslav Halak : Ottawa's best asset is not goaltending. B.Elliot showed good thing last season but Halak can still be valuable
Matt D'agostini: he can score goal. he is not Heatley (REALLY NOT) but he can finish some spezza's passes
1 first round draft pick in 2010 (I just don't see the habs draft their first pick when the draft is held in Montreal)
1 3rd round draft pick in 2009

TO MTL:
Dany Heatley and his big contract


I think the habs found aplayer (with size) who can score 40 + goal and the sens got some depth at forward, some goaltending depth on goal and put some picks in their bank.

But of course, the best player (and the biggest contrat) IS Healtley and by a BIG Margin..

Probably that Murray would like to trade Heatley ONE FOR ONE, to get a player of the same value (EX: HEATLEY FOR PHANEUF)... Unfortunatively, i don't see a habs player (one on one) that we can trade one for one. except Markov but he is going nowhere...


I don't know what you think. It's always hard to make a trade because we don't know the real value of a player around the league and what the other GM is really looking for...

My proposal is really just for fun.

The habs by trading Plekanec can put theirself in a bad situation if Lang and Koivu aren't returning. Because our three best center from last year would not be returding.

It might be something against doing my trade proposal...

Unless we trade also for Vinny Lecavalier... But i will not restart this subject. Lecavalier is not coming to MTL. And probably not Heatley neither...


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06-13-2009, 12:54 PM
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Nah, Ottawa wouldn't want quantity in a trade with a division rival. Sens have Leclaire who they traded for at the deadline last season.

If Ottawa and Montreal were to trade, I think you'd have to see Higgins and Markov coming to Ottawa.

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06-13-2009, 12:58 PM
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Nah, Ottawa wouldn't want quantity in a trade with a division rival. Sens have Leclaire who they traded for at the deadline last season.

If Ottawa and Montreal were to trade, I think you'd have to see Higgins and Markov coming to Ottawa.
I forgot the Leclaire trade because if was injured when the Sens got him.. it's why...

you are so right...

It's so true...

I need to do some changes in my trade proposal...

I can add Higgins and remove Halak and the 3rd round draft pick.

Plekanec + Higgins + 1st 2010 (or a prospect) for Heatley.

But like I said if we trade Plekanec, we need to find another centreman..


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I like you how you say Dany Heatley and his big contract to make it seem like he's a burden to your team.

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Nah, Ottawa wouldn't want quantity in a trade with a division rival. Sens have Leclaire who they traded for at the deadline last season.

If Ottawa and Montreal were to trade, I think you'd have to see Higgins and Markov coming to Ottawa.
I'd welcome Heatley in Montreal with open arms. But i wouldnt trade Markov alone for him.

That's my opinion obviously, but after watching that final this year, i'm fairly confident Markov can play as good or better than any defenseman who was on the ice in those playoffs, and that's including Lidstrom.

Markov 1st pass is as good as anyone else in this league right now, and that's something you need more than ever in the nhl.

But yeah, i'm a homer

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I'd welcome Heatley in Montreal with open arms. But i wouldnt trade Markov alone for him.

That's my opinion obviously, but after watching that final this year, i'm fairly confident Markov can play as good or better than any defenseman who was on the ice in those playoffs, and that's including Lidstrom.

Markov 1st pass is as good as anyone else in this league right now, and that's something you need more than ever in the nhl.

But yeah, i'm a homer
Markov is going no-where. He was draft by the habs, was develop by the habs and he is a habs.

I think that the habs have only few untouchable..

Carey Price and Andrei Markov are for me the only two untradeables unless one of them is requesting a trade like Heatley.

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Subban and 1st 09.

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an extremely soft, slew footing center, and a young, partying "future 30 goalscorer" who still hasn't found his role in Montreal, along with a 13-20 (let's just say) overall pick for dany heatley.


HA

HA

HA.


Montreal will have to overpay through their ****ing teeth to get an elite goalscorer from a division rival. Start with Markov and then add. There's no way Heatley is staying in the NE division unless that team sells the farm and screws themselves long term for Heatley.

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an extremely soft, slew footing center, and a young, partying "future 30 goalscorer" who still hasn't found his role in Montreal, along with a 13-20 (let's just say) overall pick for dany heatley.


HA

HA

HA.


Montreal will have to overpay through their ****ing teeth to get an elite goalscorer from a division rival. Start with Markov and then add. There's no way Heatley is staying in the NE division unless that team sells the farm and screws themselves long term for Heatley.
sorry but markov>heatley

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sorry but markov>heatley
It's why he said they would have to overpay through their teeth. If we're sending Heatley to a divisional rival, then it's going to be Markov+.

Doesn't mean that the trade is gonna happen, and Montreal isn't going to like it. But there's no way they're going to get him for any sort of package like the one proposed. End of story.

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Subban and 1st 09.
I would do that in a second as a Habs fan.

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Subban and 1st 09.
You reject other decent offers yet you would take that?

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sorry but markov>heatley
lol... homers

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lol... homers
lol..... right back at you! And as I habs fan I obviously would do subban and this years 1st for heatley.... but that's not going to happen.

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I know it's been said many times before, but the chances of Montreal getting Heatley are all but 0% unless Ottawa gets much more than Healtey's worth, which everyone knows Montreal won't do. Let's face it, Heatley is not ending up in the same division! Sorry Toronto, Montreal, Boston and Buffalo...

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Here's what it takes to give Heatley to a divisional rival:
Markov, Subban, Pacioretty, D'Agostini, 1st, 2nd.

Have fun.

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Markov, Subban, Pacioretty, D'Agostini, 1st, 2nd.
Sorry, but #1 D-men are rarer and more impactful and thus more valuable than scoring wingers, even without factoring in Markov's very favorable contract.

I realize this solves Ottawa's two biggest problems right now, but there is no way the Habs trade Markov for Heatley, let alone Markov plus. Don't get me started on then adding three of the Habs' highly-regarded prospects and a pair of draft picks, just to tilt it further.

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Sorry, but #1 D-men are more impactful and thus more valuable than scoring wingers, even without factoring in Markov's very favorable contract.

I realize this solves Ottawa's two biggest problems right now, but there is no way the Habs trade Markov for Heatley, let alone Markov plus.
That's the point.
You will have to pay significant overpayment if you are the Montreal Canadiens, Toronto Maple Leafs, Buffalo Sabres, or Boston Bruins.

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That's the point.
You will have to pay significant overpayment if you are the Montreal Canadiens, Toronto Maple Leafs, Buffalo Sabres, or Boston Bruins.
So... where's the overpayment from Ottawa in enticing Montreal to deal their best player to a divisional rival?

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So... where's the overpayment from Ottawa in enticing Montreal to deal their best player to a divisional rival?
Montreal is the one trading for Heatley. We can always trade somewhere else and get very good players, whereas Montreal has no Heatley. Lrn2logic.

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Montreal is the one trading for Heatley. We can always trade somewhere else. Learn to logic please.
Ottawa is the team that's looking to trade an asset that doesn't want to play for them. Sure, there's (presumably) a good market for Heatley, but at the same time, Montreal doesn't need to make themselves worse by trading for him.

If Montreal by some chance went crazy and decided Markov was expendable, they could do a heck of a lot better that packaging him with a ton of futures for a player that will help their team less.

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Markov and someone else.

Don't wanna pay it? Tough luck, get a 50 goal man somewhere else.

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Here's what it takes to give Heatley to a divisional rival:
Markov, Subban, Pacioretty, D'Agostini, 1st, 2nd.

Have fun.
Markov and Subban for sure. The 1st would be nice, I'll admit.

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You reject other decent offers yet you would take that?
I'd like to keep a decent amound of cash to spend for this season, Subban is probably the top prospect on the Canadien's team, and on top of that, he could be great in the future, hopefully gets a good built then we'll see how good he can be, other then that, Markov, 1st 09, rights to Tanguay ?

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Here's what it takes to give Heatley to a divisional rival:
Markov, Subban, Pacioretty, D'Agostini, 1st, 2nd.

Have fun.
Well, lets hope he ends up with someone else then.

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