HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

Devils/Leafs...

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
06-14-2009, 12:33 PM
  #1
DEVILS ALL THE WAY*
Yes, I'm a hypocrite
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Montreal
Country: Canada
Posts: 19,477
vCash: 500
Devils/Leafs...

It's no secret that the Devils are in desperate need of a puck moving D-men and that the Leafs are in "rebuilding mode". Brian Burke likes to have hard nose players on his team and someone like Patrice Cormier fits the bill IMO. Kaberle is only making this team better and when you're rebuilding you want to be the worst team possible so you can land a solid pick.

Would this be enough to land Tomas Kaberle ???

To New Jersey

Tomas Kaberle

Vs

To Toronto

Patrice Cormier
Jay Pandolfo (salary dump)
2010 1st round pick

DEVILS ALL THE WAY* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 12:35 PM
  #2
Volcanologist
Habitual User
 
Volcanologist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Kessel Apocalypse
Country: Germany
Posts: 20,011
vCash: 500
How 'bout....no.

Volcanologist is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 12:37 PM
  #3
LordLucic*
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 1,742
vCash: 500
You ain't getting Kaberle without giving up Zajac.

LordLucic* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 12:37 PM
  #4
Heaters not lazt*
 
Heaters not lazt*'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 1,905
vCash: 500
First, I think it has to be a 2009 1st rounder... 2nd, if they're getting a salary dump, they should be compensated for it.

To Toronto:
1st (2009)
Nicklas Bergfors/Mattias Tedenby
Vladimir Zharkov
Jay Pandolfo

To New Jersey:

Tomas Kaberle

Heaters not lazt* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 12:39 PM
  #5
The Puck
Registered User
 
The Puck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Posts: 2,086
vCash: 500
Make it Kubina instead of Kaberle

The Puck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 12:41 PM
  #6
roy_133*
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Winnipeg
Country: Canada
Posts: 157
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to roy_133*
No way the Devils get Kaberle without giving up atleast Parise

roy_133* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 12:44 PM
  #7
sgupca
Registered User
 
sgupca's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Lloydminster, AB
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,531
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Haul20 View Post
No way the Devils get Kaberle without giving up atleast Parise
I think you meant Zajac

Kaberle + our 1st round pick +

and the Devils might start to listen for Parise.

sgupca is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 12:45 PM
  #8
grabo84
Registered User
 
grabo84's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Atlantic Canada
Country: Canada
Posts: 8,448
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordLucic View Post
You ain't getting Kaberle without giving up Zajac.
I don't think thats necessarily true. A package based around their 1st, Cormier, and Clarkson would likely get a deal done. As far as the OP goes though, an '09 first is key, and Pandolfo has too much term on his contract to be thrown in to offset salary.

grabo84 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 12:59 PM
  #9
VikingAv
Go Sioux!
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: location, location
Country: Norway
Posts: 1,846
vCash: 1253
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Haul20 View Post
No way the Devils get Kaberle without giving up atleast Parise
And, you know what, I'm the next pope
'09 first plus two good prospects ought to do it.

VikingAv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 01:05 PM
  #10
burke4life
Registered User
 
burke4life's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Toronto, ON
Country: Canada
Posts: 834
vCash: 500
add a 2nd in there for toronto and i would take that deal!

burke4life is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 01:20 PM
  #11
Rob Nieds work ethic
Swarm it up Devils!
 
Rob Nieds work ethic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Lund, Sweden
Country: Sweden
Posts: 9,319
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by J Haul20 View Post
No way the Devils get Kaberle without giving up atleast Parise
Get real. Parise is worth at least 2.5 Tomas Kaberles.

Rob Nieds work ethic is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 01:41 PM
  #12
Tyler Myers
Registered User
 
Tyler Myers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
Country: Australia
Posts: 1,280
vCash: 500
replace with Cormier with Tedenby and the leafs add a 4th in 2010?

Tyler Myers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 01:48 PM
  #13
Ace88*
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Mississauga
Country: Italy
Posts: 517
vCash: 500
i really like the idea of sending Kaberle to the Devils, imo we make good trading partners. You have some of what we want, and we have some of what you want. So,

Kaberle + 4th round pick

for

Cormier/Tedenby, Bergfors/Cllarkson (whichever you guys prefer, but ideally Clarkson as he can play now), 1st 09, 2nd '10, Pandolfo if you're looking for a dump

adding the 2nd '10 may be a little too much, so making it a 3rd '10 or 4th '09 should even it up.


Last edited by Ace88*: 06-14-2009 at 01:55 PM.
Ace88* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 01:51 PM
  #14
Joey Moss
Proud to select...
 
Joey Moss's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 21,164
vCash: 226
Quote:
Originally Posted by LordLucic View Post
You ain't getting Kaberle without giving up Zajac.
lol, you sure? David Clarkson is a BB type of player, he should be coming back if Kaberle is dealt to NJ.

Joey Moss is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 01:53 PM
  #15
Tyler Myers
Registered User
 
Tyler Myers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
Country: Australia
Posts: 1,280
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace88 View Post
i really like the idea of sending Kaberle to the Devils, imo we make good trading partners. You have some of what we want, and we have some of what you want. So,

Kaberle + 4th round pick

for

Cormier/Tedenby, Bergfors/Cllarkson (whichever you guys prefer, but ideally Clarkson as he can play now), 1st 09, 2nd '10, Pandolfo if you're looking for a dump
thats quite a bit

Tyler Myers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 02:13 PM
  #16
Schennrection
Registered User
 
Schennrection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 265
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Taveras View Post
thats quite a bit
really i thought it seemed pretty good 2nd is too much compensation for taking pandalfo though, but i definately think something around clarkson prospect and a first gets it done on both sides

nj:
kaberle
stempniak

tor:
clarkson
cormier
1st 09
2nd 09/10
pandalfo

Schennrection is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 02:41 PM
  #17
Ace88*
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Mississauga
Country: Italy
Posts: 517
vCash: 500
^^ I can see Stempniak having his best years on the Devils. That never occurred to me, but it's a good idea. It allows the 2nd or 3rd to be added as well. If Cormier was changed to Tedenby or Bergfors then we'd have what is likely the most ideal trade for Kaberle.

Ace88* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 02:42 PM
  #18
Duponttime*
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 511
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by DEVILS ALL THE WAY View Post
It's no secret that the Devils are in desperate need of a puck moving D-men and that the Leafs are in "rebuilding mode". Brian Burke likes to have hard nose players on his team and someone like Patrice Cormier fits the bill IMO. Kaberle is only making this team better and when you're rebuilding you want to be the worst team possible so you can land a solid pick.

Would this be enough to land Tomas Kaberle ???

To New Jersey

Tomas Kaberle

Vs

To Toronto

Patrice Cormier
Jay Pandolfo (salary dump)
2010 1st round pick
The Devils farm system is beyond awful. So much for super genius Lou.

Duponttime* is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 02:47 PM
  #19
TheKingSlayer
He was in the way!
 
TheKingSlayer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ottawa
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,236
vCash: 500
I think a deal centered around Kaberle and Stempniak or Mayers is a good deal.... maybe

Kaberle and Mayers/Stemps
4th round pick '10 (we have none this year thanks to Bettman!!!)

for
1st round pick in 2009
2nd round pick in 2009
Cormier and Pandolfo

TheKingSlayer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 03:11 PM
  #20
NoThreat
Registered User
 
NoThreat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 1,824
vCash: 500
As a Leaf fan and Kitchener Ranger fan, I want Halischuk.

If we can get a 1st this year, a cormier or Hali and Tedenby, I think it would be a done deal, and we'd probably add a 4th next year and take Pandolfo contract off of you're hands.

It is Brian Burke though...he's asking a lot for Kabrle, too much imo and Tedenby isn't his type of player but if we can get that much, I say he take it and run.

NoThreat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 03:14 PM
  #21
Classic Devil
Global Moderator
Spirit of 1988
 
Classic Devil's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Country: United States
Posts: 32,894
vCash: 500
Awards:
Quote:
Originally Posted by NoThreat View Post
As a Leaf fan and Kitchener Ranger fan, I want Halischuk.

If we can get a 1st this year, a cormier or Hali and Tedenby, I think it would be a done deal, and we'd probably add a 4th next year and take Pandolfo contract off of you're hands.

It is Brian Burke though...he's asking a lot for Kabrle, too much imo and Tedenby isn't his type of player but if we can get that much, I say he take it and run.
Devils wouldn't do that. No "and." First this year and Tedenby is the best I would offer and at this point, I'm not even sure I'd do that.

Classic Devil is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 03:38 PM
  #22
Tyler Myers
Registered User
 
Tyler Myers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Sydney
Country: Australia
Posts: 1,280
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by cstocks View Post
really i thought it seemed pretty good 2nd is too much compensation for taking pandalfo though, but i definately think something around clarkson prospect and a first gets it done on both sides

nj:
kaberle
stempniak

tor:
clarkson
cormier
1st 09
2nd 09/10
pandalfo
pandalfo's cap hit is only 2.5, what would be the whole point if we give them back stempniak who has pretty much the same cap hit

my original offer

Quote:
Originally Posted by John Taveras View Post
replace with Cormier with Tedenby and the leafs add a 4th in 2010?
so


To New Jersey

Tomas Kaberle
4th 2010 (we dont have one this year)

for

To Toronto

Tedenby
Pandolfo (salary dump)
2010 1st round pick

Tyler Myers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 03:48 PM
  #23
bobermay
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Barrie/UofGuelph
Country: Canada
Posts: 7,871
vCash: 500
To New Jersey: Tomas Kaberle, Matt Stajan, Chad Rau
To Toronto: 1st 09, Tyler Eckford, Patrice Cormier and Nathan Perkovich (And anyone for a Salary dump if you want).

Basicly:
Tomas Kaberle = 1st 09 and Patrice Cormier
Matt Stajan and Chad Rau > Tyler Eckford and Nathan Perkovich salary dump player if you want to add one... (But I like those prospects )

Stajan could be a great 2nd/3rd line centerman for you guys. At 25 this season, he recorded 55 points in 76 games, and IMO he still has potential to get 65+ points with the right linemates. Kaberle would be a HUGE help on your PP. Chad Rau has been a decent prospect in the NCAA this year, but it seems that Burke doesn't have much of an interest for him.

We get a 1st in a fairly deep draft. We also get a few solid prospects that all have NHL potential.

Fair?

bobermay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 04:12 PM
  #24
Schennrection
Registered User
 
Schennrection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 265
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by John Taveras View Post
pandalfo's cap hit is only 2.5, what would be the whole point if we give them back stempniak who has pretty much the same cap hit
because stempniak is younger and put up more points then both pandalfo and clarkson so he fill a hole left by their departure and gives nj reason to give up a 2nd round pick as well. i put him in the trade because i think he could be valuable to nj. also he is only signed this year where as pandalfo is signed two years not playing worth his 2.5 mil and is a salary dump.

Schennrection is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
06-14-2009, 05:18 PM
  #25
Schenn
Dirt Road Scholar
 
Schenn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Huron County
Country: Canada
Posts: 26,789
vCash: 500
or..

To Tor

Tedenby
1st 09
3rd 10
Clarkson
Oduya rights(of coarse this has to be draft day)

To NJ

Kaberle
Stajan
Rau


Kaberle= Tedenby, 1st, 3rd '10
Stajan=Clarkson
Rau=Oduya rights.,

Schenn is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:38 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.