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Cote 13 35.14%
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06-15-2009, 05:10 AM
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Cote vs Godard

So me and my buddy were arguing who is better. I'd like to hear your opinions, which one of these 2 grinders are better?

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06-15-2009, 07:54 AM
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Godard is definitely the better fighter. Cote's main attribute is having a great chin. Godard can go toe to toe just like Cote, but he has knockout power that Cote lacks and the intimidation factor that goes with it. In terms of playing? It's a toss up. But I'd rather have Godard for his fighting ability.

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06-15-2009, 08:19 AM
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Godard is a better fighter, but He also is a stupid player and takes horrible penalties for goating and puts his team down a man a lot. Rather have Cote to play a shift, but Godard for a fight

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06-15-2009, 08:47 AM
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Godard is a better fighter, but He also is a stupid player and takes horrible penalties for goating and puts his team down a man a lot. Rather have Cote to play a shift, but Godard for a fight
That's not really true at all. Godard had 66 PIMs that weren't fighting majors this year, Cote had 64. Cote also played 8 fewer games. And some of Godard's penalties are from things like going after Andre Deveaux in a game where the Pens were getting shellacked and Deveaux was taking shots at people. You want your enforcer doing that and you'll take the PIMs that come with it. Or when he fought Boris Valabik out of a scrum and everyone involved got 10. In terms of being goaded into stuff, Godard is good about it. This isn't Andre Roy we're talking about. He's a nice balance of knowing when to go and at the same time being just crazy enough to keep people honest.

If there's a chance of Godard taking more bad penalties than Cote, it's a small one, and one I'll take for the additional intimidation that Godard brings to line up. Cote has a ton of heart and I respect him for standing in there the way he does, but Godard is more valuable.

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06-15-2009, 01:46 PM
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Watch the pens first 2 games this year from europe, and then come back again. In both of those games he was in the penalty box for goals against for horrible penalties if I recall correctly. Kind of stained his season for me.

and im going to go and take out offsetting roughings/unsportsmanlike and 10 minute misconducts aswell, ill post it when im done

Cote's un offsetting minors: 6 times all year. That's paltry.

Godard's :14

So Godard has taken over double Cote's numbers. yes cote played 8 less games but that only averages to around 1 more penalty.

I forgot to check all the majors for boarding/whatever non offsetting ones, But I dont recall either getting any this year


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06-15-2009, 02:48 PM
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Godard in a fight, Cote in an actual shift. Are we talking about actual play or a fight?

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Both are poor excuses for hockey players, but I think Cote is less likely to cost his team a game sometime down the line than Godard is.

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Watch the pens first 2 games this year from europe, and then come back again. In both of those games he was in the penalty box for goals against for horrible penalties if I recall correctly. Kind of stained his season for me.

and im going to go and take out offsetting roughings/unsportsmanlike and 10 minute misconducts aswell, ill post it when im done

Cote's un offsetting minors: 6 times all year. That's paltry.

Godard's :14

So Godard has taken over double Cote's numbers. yes cote played 8 less games but that only averages to around 1 more penalty.

I forgot to check all the majors for boarding/whatever non offsetting ones, But I dont recall either getting any this year

Those two calls were weak, he was trying to challenge Neil and somehow got ticky tacky holding or hooking penalties if I recall. It's silly to judge his whole season based on that.

On the whole shift thing? They're enforcers, that's why you want them out there, to calm things down or spark the team with a fight or do some policing. I'll take the guy that does it better.

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06-15-2009, 06:59 PM
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Gimme Cote. Tough as nails, better skater, tons of energy.

Godard is a better puncher but I give Cote the edge in everything else.

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While it's an interesting discussion, ultimately it comes down to one thing IMO. Cote almost doesn't serve a role as he loses to virtually all heavies, and he's not better than Godard to the point where he can skate a regular shift on the 4th line. While Godard is even worse and may take more bad penalties, he at least serves the role of heavyweight enforcer very well. I'd take Godard.

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neither are grinders, they're fighters. They can't play... at all. Cote showed some promise 2 years ago to be a decent 4th liner but he took a step back. Give me the better fighter and Godard.

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Fighter-Godard

Player-Cote, easily

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06-16-2009, 04:43 PM
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Cote sucks at the only thing he does. Godard doesn't.

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