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03-26-2004, 09:14 AM
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Is CJ using Kovalev properly?

Just picked this quote up from the Pen's message board...

"I was baffled when I saw him playing left wing. The Canadiens brass CLEARLY didn't do their homework on the guy."

It was one of a few comments about Kovalev's strength on the right side. One of the big question marks with Julien the last 5 games has been his line juggling. Why isn't Kovy on the RW? Surely, if we are trying to get this guy rolling it would be better to put either Ryder or Zed out of position....

Perreault/Bulis - Koivu - Zednik
Ryder - Ribiero - Kovalev

Just wondering why, if we're going to go out and sacrifice youth to bring in a super-star, we don't do whatever is neccesary to get the most production out of him that we can???

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I am surprised too that we're not using the guy on the right... he should be on the right, all the time.

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And i have seen several games where ryder is on the left side and does quite well (his profile says he is capable of playing LW/RW)

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I'm going to think that Gainey and Julien know a little more about Kovalev's strengths and weaknesses then some poster on the Penguins board.
I'm sure both Gainey and for sure Julien have talked to Kovalev about just about everything.
Don't think that Julien decides his lines like a guy in a fantasy pool. He has 10X the info on his players, including the players input, than everybody on this board combined.
If Julien feels that Kovalev is going to play the left side over the right, you can be sure that he has done his homework.

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With both koivu and Ribs left handed shots it makes even less sense..easier to make a pass to the rightside than a backhand pass to the left.. Ah well That's wht we rant and Claude gets to decide.

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Originally Posted by Darz
I'm going to think that Gainey and Julien know a little more about Kovalev's strengths and weaknesses then some poster on the Penguins board.
I'm sure both Gainey and for sure Julien have talked to Kovalev about just about everything.
Don't think that Julien decides his lines like a guy in a fantasy pool. He has 10X the info on his players, including the players input, than everybody on this board combined.
If Julien feels that Kovalev is going to play the left side over the right, you can be sure that he has done his homework.
Well maybe is theory tell him to put him at LW, but now he needs to look at the results and put him where he belongs IMO.

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Agreed, he's a RW and should definitely be playing that position. Ryder can play the left side and notice how almost everyone of his goals has come from the left side of the ice?

Ryder-Ribs-Kovalev

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I'm going to think that Gainey and Julien know a little more about Kovalev's strengths and weaknesses then some poster on the Penguins board.
I'm sure both Gainey and for sure Julien have talked to Kovalev about just about everything.
Don't think that Julien decides his lines like a guy in a fantasy pool. He has 10X the info on his players, including the players input, than everybody on this board combined.
If Julien feels that Kovalev is going to play the left side over the right, you can be sure that he has done his homework.
He probably has talked to Kovalev about it, but it is very possible Kovalev said it was fine simply in order not to rock the boat. He is the new guy,some Montreal fans have already ripped him apart for not lighting it up, what do you think would happen if he said he would rather play right side? All we would hear is he isn't a team player, he is whiner etc....

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Well maybe is theory tell him to put him at LW, but now he needs to look at the results and put him where he belongs IMO.
Again, this is the stuff I trust Julien to do. I'm sure if he feels Kovalev better suits the team on the right side, Julien will put him there, and if he keeps him on the left side, I'm sure there will be reasons for this as well.

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Do Ribeiro, Ryder, Koivu, and Zednik know how to use Kovalev properly? Not yet. They don't get into position to take advantage of his passes.

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And reason #239 why this message board doesn't coach the Canadiens...

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I'm going to think that Gainey and Julien know a little more about Kovalev's strengths and weaknesses then some poster on the Penguins board.
I'm sure both Gainey and for sure Julien have talked to Kovalev about just about everything.
Don't think that Julien decides his lines like a guy in a fantasy pool. He has 10X the info on his players, including the players input, than everybody on this board combined.
If Julien feels that Kovalev is going to play the left side over the right, you can be sure that he has done his homework.
I agree, no one is in a better position to make line choices then CJ.

However this is just our opinion's based on past performance of what we would like to see. What i'm hoping CJ's goal here is to get everyone comfortable playing with every member of the club and develop some chemistry, because come Playoff time line's are going to be made specifically for the club we are playing. (playing a team like new Jersey is completly different then playing a team like Tampa Bay) If you look at the line up we had against the devils it was a line up we all hated but we got 3 points out of 4...so we can't really complain.


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I believe Kovalev started his NHL career as a center. That's the position he played in the '93-'94 season when the Rangers won the cup and he was AWESOME in that playoff series. He had a lot of room on the ice to be creative and make plays.

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I agree, no one is in a better position to make line choices then CJ.

However this is just our opinion's based on past performance of what we would like to see. What i'm hoping CJ's goal here is to get everyone comfortable playing with every member of the club and develop some chemistry, because come Playoff time line's are going to be made specifically for the club we are playing. (playing a team like new Jersey is completly different then playing a team like Tampa Bay) If you look at the line up we had against the devils it was a line up we all hated but we got 3 points out of 4...so we can't really complain.
Agreed. I think that's exactly what Julien is doing. He has a surplus of players and can rest a few for a couple of games. Better now than in the playoffs. Who cares if the team is 7th or 8th?

Kovalev is starting to fit in. The talent is there and, as a player, you can see he's an offensive threat no matter which line he's on. He is starting to adopt a stronger work ethic. It's too bad he's still nursing an injured shoulder which limits his effectiveness down low. Some have also alluded to a conditioning issue. It's just a matter of time.

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Originally Posted by Darz
I'm going to think that Gainey and Julien know a little more about Kovalev's strengths and weaknesses then some poster on the Penguins board.
I'm sure both Gainey and for sure Julien have talked to Kovalev about just about everything.
Don't think that Julien decides his lines like a guy in a fantasy pool. He has 10X the info on his players, including the players input, than everybody on this board combined.
If Julien feels that Kovalev is going to play the left side over the right, you can be sure that he has done his homework.
Homework?
Remember when Juneau played on the second line this year?? Cause we had difficulty to score goals? Or the 2 games Dagenais was in the lineup against Devils!

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Homework?
Remember when Juneau played on the second line this year?? Cause we had difficulty to score goals? Or the 2 games Dagenais was in the lineup against Devils!
And yet Montreal didn't lose any of those three games! :p

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