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06-17-2009, 05:41 PM
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Foster was also in the restroom when his name was called.
I hear he's still in there as we speak...

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06-17-2009, 05:43 PM
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FDW, as I live and breathe! It's been donkey's years since I saw that name. (Obviously I haven't been hanging around the right fora). Good to see you dude.

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Mikhail Stefanovich was projected in the mid-late 1st round and went in the 4th, last year.

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06-17-2009, 05:55 PM
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- Wolski was supposed to be a Top10 pick IIRC (not sure why he fell that far)
He got arrested like a week before the draft. He beat the **** out of some guy at a party.

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06-17-2009, 06:24 PM
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Adrian Foster might be the best of them all, he wasn't even in the CSB database when he was selected by the Devils, there was a long delay because the Devils had to explain to the league that he was draft-eligible. He wasn't even invited to the draft by the league, the Devils told him to show up. TSN didn't even know he was there, I believe Gord Miller's words were "apparently, Adrian Foster is here."
I heard that story before and always wondered :With the guy being such an unknown, why not pick him in the 2nd-3rd or later rounds? They must have good enough proof that other teams know about him in a situation like this, no?

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Can there be any bigger reach than Evgeni Ryabchikov in 1994? I don't think he was even on any scouting list...and drafted based on film vs seeing him in person (if I recall correctly)

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06-17-2009, 07:10 PM
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STRAAANGE?

2003: Panthers picking Ovechkin reasoning that because of leap years he was actually eligible!

1974: Sabres pick Taro Tsujimoto - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taro_Tsujimoto



Hickey and Wheeler are the ones I distinctly remember thinking, "Who?"

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06-17-2009, 08:14 PM
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He got arrested like a week before the draft. He beat the **** out of some guy at a party.
for the record the charges were dropped.

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06-17-2009, 08:32 PM
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It's not huge or anything but Kruise Reddick was pretty high on central scouting's list and didn't get drafted at all last year.

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06-17-2009, 08:54 PM
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It's not huge or anything but Kruise Reddick was pretty high on central scouting's list and didn't get drafted at all last year.
Yeah, I think I had him as a late second, early third rounder last year...

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06-17-2009, 09:00 PM
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2002 Oilers: Jesse Niinimaki, 1st round 15th overall

He was the 14th rated finnish player by central scouting, something like the 50th rated european player and the Oilers picked him 15th overall. The tsn guys were scrambling through their papers to even know who this guy was when his name was called. Monumental bust.
He put up some pretty good numbers in Finland immediately after being drafted. Can't deny he was a bust, but I think the Oilers saw something in him.

Didn't he have injury problems?

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06-17-2009, 09:05 PM
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He put up some pretty good numbers in Finland immediately after being drafted. Can't deny he was a bust, but I think the Oilers saw something in him.

Didn't he have injury problems?
He was compared to Forsberg from a pure skills perspective, and the Oilers weren't the only ones who thought that way.

Yeah, he torched his shoulder a couple of times. And he was lazy/a partier on top of that. I remember watching him with the Roadrunners during the lockout; he was so soft- and I'm not even kidding- he'd just abandon the puck if someone challenged him one-on-one. Suffice to say he got like five minutes of TOI a game and went back home before long.

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06-17-2009, 09:06 PM
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Dustin Brown was ranked 2nd best in North America by CSS I though

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06-17-2009, 09:10 PM
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Anze Kopitar slipped too...ranked 1rst in Europe, but guys like Brian Lee went ahead of him, from a sens fan POV

Karlsson would be considered a reach IMO, i was scrambling when I heard they picked him...turned out pretty good though

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06-17-2009, 09:25 PM
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- Wasn't there a Wes O'Neill guy who was thought of being a first rounder between 2002 and 2004? Later he was lucky that one team selected him in the last round???


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The same could be said for Denmark's Jannik Hansen, who several times turned huge Canadian prospect Wes O'Neill into a human turnstile. Hansen's linemate, Morten Madsen, is an even more impressive '87 birthdate with size, skill, competitive fire and excellent two-way hockey sense. Madsen will be a serious contender for high draft selection in '05.
Red Line Report. Madsen didn't go high and O'Neill stinks but he was right about pimping Hansen.

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06-17-2009, 09:26 PM
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Going back a few years...

A year before the 1991 draft (ie the Eric Lindros draft), Brent Bilodeau was considered a top 3 prospect. He ended up slipping to 17 and turned out to be a complete bust.

Minor incident, but in 1992 the draft was in Montreal and the home town crowed booed when the Habs passed on Paul Brousseau for David Wilkie...talk about a welcome!

A year before the 1993 draft Ashley Buckberger was talked of as a top 5 pick...he slipped to the 2nd round and was a complete bust.

1995 Petr Sykora was supposed to be a top pick, slid to 18th.

1997 Adam Colagiacomo was a fairly highly thought of prospect a year before this draft, originally thought of as a high 1st rounder, slipped to the 4th round, another complete bust

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06-17-2009, 09:31 PM
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He put up some pretty good numbers in Finland immediately after being drafted. Can't deny he was a bust, but I think the Oilers saw something in him.

Didn't he have injury problems?
He sucked from day 1 to the time he was punted. The most points he put up in any league ever was 20 points.

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06-17-2009, 11:32 PM
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Risers : My favorite....P.K Subban (was 100+ on central scouting N-A and went 43)

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06-18-2009, 10:39 AM
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...1997 Adam Colagiacomo was a fairly highly thought of prospect a year before this draft, originally thought of as a high 1st rounder, slipped to the 4th round, another complete bust

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06-18-2009, 10:48 AM
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Alexander Radulov fell to #15 in 2004 because of "attitude" problems. Turns out everyone was right.

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06-18-2009, 11:50 AM
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Anze Kopitar slipped too...ranked 1rst in Europe, but guys like Brian Lee went ahead of him, from a sens fan POV
I think Kopitar dropped due to the fact that he is Slovenian and lots of people didn't know what to expect from Slovenian hockey players since there had never been one in the NHL. I remember being pissed that the Habs took Price instead of him.

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06-18-2009, 12:15 PM
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The Jets stepped up to the Podium during the 92 draft and Mike Smith proudly called the name

Sergei Bautin http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=248

Who? TSN was left scrambling and actually they thought that Smith made an error and was actually drafing Sergei Brylin who went in the 2nd round to New Jersey.

Nope the Jets didnt make a mistake they had actually drafted a 24 year old Russian noboby ever heard of. Its not that Bautin was a bad player he actually did come over and play a few seasons but they could have easily grabbed him with a late round pick.

I remember thinking they passed on Jason Smith for this guy?

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06-18-2009, 12:33 PM
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Fallers:
- Wolski was supposed to be a Top10 pick IIRC (not sure why he fell that far)
He had some police troubles the day(s)? before the draft that brought down his ranking

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06-18-2009, 12:39 PM
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Nigel Williams falling.

In some mocks he was supposed to be 11th overall.

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Who pegged (got a link maybe) Oshie as a first rounder? You? Kudos, if true. I don't recall anybody thinking about taking Oshie in the first round.
Found this old thread, very interesting comments. A few Blues fans scratching their heads for not takin Cogliano, Latendresse, Fritche etc. Your right though, Redline had him at 61, ISS at 111.
http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?t=156321

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