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06-18-2009, 06:19 PM
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Counter proposal

To Fla: Briere and JVR

To Philly: Bo's rights


JVR comes to Florida as incentive to accept Briere's contract while opening up the cap space for Philly to sign Bo.
How about Briere for the rights, and JVR if he signs?

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06-18-2009, 06:20 PM
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not happening
Fine, we'd rather ship him out west anyway.

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06-18-2009, 06:20 PM
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That's all I'm saying. I was just responding to the "get anything you can for him" crowd, as if its that simple in a salary cap world.
If you were just talking about draft picks here, then yes you could say get anything you can for him but when you're talking about adding a player at 4.25 mil it changes things.

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I'd rather trade him for just Lupul. Jones has negative value at this point to the Panthers.

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06-18-2009, 06:23 PM
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If you were just talking about draft picks here, then yes you could say get anything you can for him but when you're talking about adding a player at 4.25 mil it changes things.
Yea, especially if its a player they might not want. If they don't want Lupul, it doesn't matter if you or I or the lochness monster thinks he's a good player. If they don't want Lupul, they aren't going to take on his cap hit just to say they got something.

Obviously, if they like Lupul, then maybe we have something here. Only Panthers management cold truly answer if that's the case or not.

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How about Briere for the rights, and JVR if he signs?
And when Briere says no way do i play for that god forsaken franchise.... NTC.

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06-18-2009, 06:27 PM
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Yea, especially if its a player they might not want. If they don't want Lupul, it doesn't matter if you or I or the lochness monster thinks he's a good player. If they don't want Lupul, they aren't going to take on his cap hit just to say they got something.

Obviously, if they like Lupul, then maybe we have something here. Only Panthers management cold truly answer if that's the case or not.
Exactly. The only reason they would even consider Jones is because his contract is up after this year. Not saying they would just take hom to help the Flyers but they might see something they like in him and give him a shot. If it doesnt work then they let him walk after the season. Personally I think he blows and wouldnt touch him.

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And when Briere says no way do i play for that god forsaken franchise.... NTC.
Always forget about those...

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Exactly. The only reason they would even consider Jones is because his contract is up after this year. Not saying they would just take hom to help the Flyers but they might see something they like in him and give him a shot. If it doesnt work then they let him walk after the season. Personally I think he blows and wouldnt touch him.
Ha! I burst out in laughter at the bolded part. My co-workers now believe they have clear evidence that I am insane

And I agree with everything you say here, especially the bolded part!

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Counter proposal

To Fla: Briere and JVR

To Philly: Bo's rights


JVR comes to Florida as incentive to accept Briere's contract while opening up the cap space for Philly to sign Bo.

No thank you. Briere has value, no matter what some of the dimwits here say, and JVR is a stud prospect. It makes no sense.

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Always forget about those...
There's a reason he negotiated the NTC and i suspect its to prevent Homer from dumping on a struggling franchise like the Panthers. Its pretty much a non-starter.

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No thank you. Briere has value, no matter what some of the dimwits here say, and JVR is a stud prospect. It makes no sense.
LOL, the Globe and Mail posted a list of the NHL's worst contracts and Briere came 4th in the list behind Redden, Drury and Gomez.

Yep, he's got lots of value. Just like Drury and GOmez does right?

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No thank you. Briere has value, no matter what some of the dimwits here say, and JVR is a stud prospect. It makes no sense.
I agree that trade doesn't work. What would it take to make a Bouwmeester/JVR trade work?

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LOL, the Globe and Mail posted a list of the NHL's worst contracts and Briere came 4th in the list behind Redden, Drury and Gomez.

Yep, he's got lots of value.
I think Briere is still a really good player. He may not have the best contract but he's talented.

Lol @ the top 3 being Rangers though.

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I think Briere is still a really good player. He may not have the best contract but he's talented.

Lol @ the top 3 being Rangers though.
With the salary cap set to plummet next season (2010/2011) most GM's are looking at more cost effective options. This only compounds the problem of dumping bad contracts/salary.

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Imo, this trade is not laughable. It just depends on what Fla is looking for.

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No thank you. Briere has value, no matter what some of the dimwits here say, and JVR is a stud prospect. It makes no sense.
I agree Briere has value. But in this case not enough. And he's preventing the Flyers from acquiring the player they'd prefer to have. Florida needs a good reason to allow Bo to remain in the east. Briere alone, with that contract, isn't enough. JVR makes a great incentive and he isn't even on the roster.

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Imo, this trade is not laughable. It just depends on what Fla is looking for.
They are desperately looking for a 1st line centerman so that Horton can go back to his natural wing position.

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Ha! I burst out in laughter at the bolded part. My co-workers now believe they have clear evidence that I am insane

And I agree with everything you say here, especially the bolded part!
lol...sorry about that bro. My only fear is is that Philly will over pay for Bouwmeester drastically. By drastically I mean his contract having a cap hit of 7.5 mil or higher.

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With the salary cap set to plummet next season (2010/2011) most GM's are looking at more cost effective options. This only compounds the problem of dumping bad contracts/salary.
how much is the cap supposed to go in 10/11?

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How about the Flyers just wait until he hits FA

and if he doesn't....o well

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I agree that trade doesn't work. What would it take to make a Bouwmeester/JVR trade work?
How about Briere+ JVR for Bouwmeester + 2nd.

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lol...sorry about that bro. My only fear is is that Philly will over pay for Bouwmeester drastically. By drastically I mean his contract having a cap hit of 7.5 mil or higher.
I don't think so. I think Homer would give him a crazy term (say 12-15 yrs) to get the hit down.

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lol...sorry about that bro. My only fear is is that Philly will over pay for Bouwmeester drastically. By drastically I mean his contract having a cap hit of 7.5 mil or higher.
As Libertine stated in the post above, he will likely get a "Zetterberg" type deal, stretched over a long term to bring the cap hit down.

You never know with Homer, though. I haven't exactly been thrilled with some of the contracts he's negotiated, so we'll see.

PS: No apologies necessary for giving me the giggles and making me look more insane than I already do! Its been a rough day at work, so I needed the laugh

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How about Briere+ JVR for Bouwmeester + 2nd.



I don't think so. I think Homer would give him a crazy term (say 12-15 yrs) to get the hit down.
60 over 12 would work for me

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How about Briere+ JVR for Bouwmeester + 2nd.
I'd do that actually. All of a sudden the Panthers offense wouldn't suck anymore.

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