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Who's better defensively? (5 players)

View Poll Results: Who's better defensively?
Ryan Kesler 34 25.56%
Mikko Koivu 29 21.80%
Mike Richards 51 38.35%
Jordan Staal 14 10.53%
Travis Zajac 5 3.76%
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06-23-2009, 05:07 PM
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Who's better defensively? (5 players)

I don't care about points. I don't care about short handed goals. Right now, which of these 5 players is better defensively?

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06-23-2009, 06:49 PM
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This season, I don't believe Kesler was as good as last season mostly because he wasn't used in a strictly shutdown role. But when put in that role, he impressed me more than Richards (who I didn't think was great, very good, but not great). So Kelser is numero uno for me. Koivu is also very good, Staal is good but overrated defensively at this point in his career. Unfortunately, I haven't seen Zajac much

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Defensively? Kesler. It's almost the only reason anyone even knows who he is, and sometimes they don't even know him enough to spell his name right.

Zajac is pretty tight, too. Koivu is ridiculously good as well.

Gah. I can't choose.

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This is a joke. I'm sorry, there's a reason Richards got the most 1st place votes for the Selke this year.

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This is a joke. I'm sorry, there's a reason Richards got the most 1st place votes for the Selke this year.
Most shorthanded goals.

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Most shorthanded goals.
Thanks for enlightening me on how the Selke works.

That's why Sharp and Alfredsson shared it in 2007-08.

And why Jordan Staal won it in 2006-07.

And why Hossa won it in 2005-06.

The real winners' SHGs:
2008-09: Datsyuk - 1
2007-08: Datsyuk - 1
2006-07: Brind'Amour - 2
2005-06: Brind'Amour - 2

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I was obviously kidding. Don't take things so seriously.

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06-23-2009, 09:58 PM
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I'm actually surprised Koivu is last out of all these guys. From what I've seen of him I think he's the best of this group defensively.

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Mike Richards got my vote.

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This is between Kesler and Koivu, and i'd give the slight edge to Koivu.

Richards is a step behind them in regards to overall defensive game. He's a heart-and-soul guy and gives 110%, but his overall defensive awareness is not as good as advertised. He's still prone to making mistakes... mistakes that you simply don't see the likes of Kesler and Koivu making. Secondly, Richards has still yet to show me that he can play a shutdown role as well as Koivu and Kesler.

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06-23-2009, 10:08 PM
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I'm actually surprised Koivu is last out of all these guys. From what I've seen of him I think he's the best of this group defensively.
He is, but he's not a "sexy" pick. He doesn't play a flashy game and doesn't get much attention in Minny.

IMO, he's the 3rd best defensive forward in the game behind Datsyuk and Zetterberg.

He's such a smart player and you can just tell by watching that he's a pain in the as$ to play against.

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He is, but he's not a "sexy" pick. He doesn't play a flashy game and doesn't get much attention in Minny.

IMO, he's the 3rd best defensive forward in the game behind Datsyuk and Zetterberg.

He's such a smart player and you can just tell by watching that he's a pain in the as$ to play against.
Yup, probably the only guy in the NHL that can shut down Datsyuk.

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06-23-2009, 11:01 PM
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There is no question that Richards is the best PK'ing forward in the world. At 5 on 5 he's very good, but he does make mistakes and those usually are a result of him over handling the puck. Still, if I was trying to lock a player down then Richards would be my first choice on that list.

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I voted Koivu. Richards and Kesler are great defensively, but Koivu is better.

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i think koivu is actually the best. but i expect richards to win

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All I know is that Staal is in the way back of the line.

Richards is the best shorthanded, but I don't think overall he's the best defensively.

After much deliberation:
1. Koivu
2. Kesler
3. Zajac/Richards



5. Staal

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Mike Richards got my vote.

Mine too. Kesler isn't too shabby either...

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Staal will be the best after few years but now is between Kesler and Koivu.

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Koivu, easily.

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06-24-2009, 10:30 AM
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Koivu. He is one the best defensive centers i've ever seen. If he can rise his offensive game up just a little bit he has a shot for selke.

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Koivu. In recent years i've found the Selke nominations to be a little bit off charts.

Datsyuk is a great player, of course. But he is not the best defensive forward in the league.

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I honestly think it's Jordan Staal and I'm sure the Pens think the same. How come he was out there so much instead of Malkin or Crosby. I'm not sure, but he seemed to get more icetime than both of them some games. He has such a long reach and is so powerful.

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Richards, Koivu, Kesler, Zajac, Staal.

In that order.

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