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06-25-2009, 03:42 PM
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How bout
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Clowe + Cheechoo

SJ:
Bouwmeester(signed)+Matthias
Not sure how accurate or fair this is, but it gives the panthers more offense and SJ a stud Dman,plus a good prospect
I think a signed JayBo could get more than that. Florida could probably get Cheechoo for 2nd (maybe a 3rd + prospect). Heck, you could probably get both of those players for a mid-1st and a 2nd.

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I think a signed JayBo could get more than that. Florida could probably get Cheechoo for 2nd (maybe a 3rd + prospect). Heck, you could probably get both of those players for a mid-1st and a 2nd.
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No, seriously - we can't let you get that good a deal. Otherwise you might one day, you know, actually beat us...

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06-25-2009, 03:57 PM
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No, seriously - we can't let you get that good a deal. Otherwise you might one day, you know, actually beat us...
I have no idea who "us" is. Cologne University? The Sharks could beat them.

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Deal centered around Clowe for Kubina? Clowe++ for Kaberle?

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I have no idea who "us" is. Cologne University? The Sharks could beat them.


Well, you're probably right, since we lost to our arch rivals in the shootout last game, I have to admit I like the Sharks' chances against Cologne university right now. But actually, I was referring to the Ducks. I thought I might be rememberred from the harmonical series thread we shared when the playoffs were still young and interesting...

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Deal centered around Clowe for Kubina? Clowe++ for Kaberle?
Probably makes more sense than signing Blake for $4M+

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06-25-2009, 04:02 PM
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Well, you're probably right, since we lost to our arch rivals in the shootout last game, I have to admit I like the Sharks' chances against Cologne university right now. But actually, I was referring to the Ducks. I thought I might be rememberred from the harmonical series thread we shared when the playoffs were still young and interesting...
Ah, sorry I remember folks by avatars. No, the Sharks are incapable of success.

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Ah, sorry I remember folks by avatars. No, the Sharks are incapable of success.
No problem, I probably do the same. I was the guy sporting the Hiller avatar (nice choice after all). I sense you still have that cynical approach towards the Sharks in the game...

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No problem, I probably do the same. I was the guy sporting the Hiller avatar (nice choice after all). I sense you still have that cynical approach towards the Sharks in the game...
They hurt my feelings.

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They hurt my feelings.
It's their way of saying they love you...?

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Deal centered around Clowe for Kubina? Clowe++ for Kaberle?
That's actually not that bad of an idea imo. Depends what the + ended up being though.

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I'm amazed at the amount of Sharks fans that don't want Heatley, imo he has been thrown under the bus way more then he should have. But the Sharks biggest need is a goal scoring sniper who can actually shoot and put it in the back of the net, this was evident in the Anaheim series when not a single Shark could place a shot anywhere near a corner of the net. The Sharks priority this summer should be to get a Heatley, Gaborik, or Hossa.

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I'm amazed at the amount of Sharks fans that don't want Heatley, imo he has been thrown under the bus way more then he should have. But the Sharks biggest need is a goal scoring sniper who can actually shoot and put it in the back of the net, this was evident in the Anaheim series when not a single Shark could place a shot anywhere near a corner of the net. The Sharks priority this summer should be to get a Heatley, Gaborik, or Hossa.
Agreed. The team needs a big shakeup. We should be looking to make a splash and I hope we do. It's like people forget that there are 20 forwards on a team. And in a trade, you get new guys in return. Especially for a guy like Clowe. Don't forget we still have guys like Setoguchi.

We could use a Hartnell, a Heatley, or a Kaberle any day of the week.

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I'd like to see the predators in on clowe, maybe a package centered around Hamhuis?

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It's their way of saying they love you...?
The Sharks should stop taking lessons from deadbeat dads then.

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Agreed. The team needs a big shakeup. We should be looking to make a splash and I hope we do. It's like people forget that there are 20 forwards on a team. And in a trade, you get new guys in return. Especially for a guy like Clowe. Don't forget we still have guys like Setoguchi.

We could use a Hartnell, a Heatley, or a Kaberle any day of the week.
My big beef with the trade is that it will deplete a lot of assets and the Sharks farm system isnt promising. Also, in a couple of years they will in a very tight situation

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I'm amazed at the amount of Sharks fans that don't want Heatley, imo he has been thrown under the bus way more then he should have. But the Sharks biggest need is a goal scoring sniper who can actually shoot and put it in the back of the net, this was evident in the Anaheim series when not a single Shark could place a shot anywhere near a corner of the net. The Sharks priority this summer should be to get a Heatley, Gaborik, or Hossa.
Please go read the Heatley threat on the Sharks forum. Adding Heatley to the Sharks with his current salary/cap would have major implications for the Sharks ability to have good team. The Sharks have a number of young players who are going to be in for substantial raises in the next couple of years (Setoguchi, Pavelski, Ehrhoff, McGinn, possibly Clowe if kept) and they will still need to sign a goaltender, re-sign JT and/or Marleau and round out a bottom 6 that could use some improvement.

Most of the trade suggestions that move out significant salary (Marleau-Clowe, Michalek-Ehrhoff, etc) for Heatley end up opening gaping holes in the Sharks line-up that would probably cost more to fill than the salaries that are being moved out. All of which means the Sharks may end up with Heatley, but the rest of the team would have to get significantly worse. And the fact is, Heatley isn't going to win the Sharks a Cup (evening playing with Big Joe), unless there is a good team behind him. And that just wouldn't be possible.

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Posted this proposal on my board.

To CLB: Phil Kessel
To SJ: CLB 1st round selection 2009
To BOS: Kris Russell, Ryan Clowe

San Jose gets their requested 1st round pick for Clowe.

Columbus gets a young, improving 21-year old sniper for a pick, and a guy I think Hitch is a little on the lukewarm side for.

Boston gets a big, hard-hitting forward with guts and a young, smooth-skating defenceman.

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Vassa, aren't you the one who said the Boyle deal was horrible? If so, that's all I need to hear.

You're General No of the not-possible squad.

The fact is, if we did move 7 mil in salary by moving Michalek/Ehrhoff or Marleau/Cheech for Heatley, we'd be in the same exact financial situation we are now, except with one less player. Actual GM's can work with that.

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I'd rather have Kessel than the pick. Even though he'll probably cost around $4 million or so to keep.

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Posted this proposal on my board.

To CLB: Phil Kessel
To SJ: CLB 1st round selection 2009
To BOS: Kris Russell, Ryan Clowe

San Jose gets their requested 1st round pick for Clowe.

Columbus gets a young, improving 21-year old sniper for a pick, and a guy I think Hitch is a little on the lukewarm side for.

Boston gets a big, hard-hitting forward with guts and a young, smooth-skating defenceman.
i think the trade is pretty dec. what`s columbus drafting at?

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i think the trade is pretty dec. what`s columbus drafting at?
I would think somewhere between 14 and 18. I actually think that is a pretty fair deal. Shut down HF, we have a fair deal. But like Vaasa wrote, I think the Sharks would rather get Kessel in that deal

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The fact is, if we did move 7 mil in salary by moving Michalek/Ehrhoff or Marleau/Cheech for Heatley, we'd be in the same exact financial situation we are now, except with one less player. Actual GM's can work with that.
No, we wouldn't be. Read the thread. It's not just me saying it. Depending on who is traded for Heatley, the Sharks would have to make some pretty big sacrifices elsewhere.

Say the Sharks trade Ehroff-Michalek. Heatley would replace Michalek this year, but given Marleau's salary demands next year, the Sharks would have to get another top 6 winger to replace Marleau who would likely more than Michalek is making. And you need to acquire a top 4 defenseman with a similar skill-set to Ehrhoff, and you're not going to get that for the $3.1 mil that Ehrhoff is making. So you end up with Heatley taking up Michalek and Ehrhoff's salary, but having to find another $4 million elsewhere to replace Ehrhoff. And don't forget the Sharks have a bit over $4 million in raises kicking in this year already, and they need to re-sign several players who will need raises too (Michell, Moen, probably Goc).

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Posted this proposal on my board.

To CLB: Phil Kessel
To SJ: CLB 1st round selection 2009
To BOS: Kris Russell, Ryan Clowe

San Jose gets their requested 1st round pick for Clowe.

Columbus gets a young, improving 21-year old sniper for a pick, and a guy I think Hitch is a little on the lukewarm side for.

Boston gets a big, hard-hitting forward with guts and a young, smooth-skating defenceman.
that's actually a pretty solid proposal. i think Columbus wins it though, and Boston may want more than that for Kessel.

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