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06-27-2009, 07:00 AM
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impressions of every pick (how fits, team by team)

1. Islanders' Tavares is exactly what they needed to help get a new arena by exciting the fan base

2. Lightning's Hedman is exactly what they needed, as its one of the weakest bluelines in the league

3. Av's Duchene is apt, he going to his childhood fav team at a time to try and fill some of Sakic's skates

4. Thrashers' Kane was the obvious 4th best player in the draft and in addition as a side benefit ought to increase the African American viewership in Atlanta, Georgia.

5. Kings' Schenn ought to have been traded for Kaberle, the L.A. franchise not needing more young draft pick forwards, the lamest performing franchise again looking farther ahead than the present. The first 'bad fit' pick.

6. Coyotes' Ekman-Larsson solidifies a Phoenix blueline with some good previous picks.

7. Leafs' Kadri was a bit of a surprise, as the team didn't move up for JT or BS nor took big d JC as expected. The Lebanese pivot in multicultural Toronto is good for the face of the franchise and certainly is quality, just unexpected for this team at this spot. Question mark as to fit.

8. Stars' Glennie was a pick that could have waited, Dallas missing an opportunity to trade down two or three spots. Nothing exciting about this fit.

9. Senators' Cowen does go to an Ontario team after all, only not the one expected. Ottawa sure needs d. Great fit. Burke might rue not taking this guy after some Sens-Leafs matchups.

10. Oilers' MPS is the most natural fit of the first round, the skilled hustlin' passionate wheels in Edmonton. He should feel just at home. Great fit.

11. Predators' Ellis is another of many quality blueliners in Nashville. Why stockpile so many? The team can/must trade a defenseman or two a bit down the road or at least not have to trade for one. A good fit if the team philosophy is to build from the net out. Perhaps he's the best pick available in their opinion. Shrug.

12. Isles' De Haan smells like overeager, myopic scouting coupled with overzealous splashing for the fans, as the team overpaid to move up unnecessarily. Couldn't the guy have been available at 16th, where they already paid a lot to move up to? TSN should have asked this question of them.

13. Sabres' Kassian is a uh-huh, nodding kind of pick, totally a Buffalo kind of guy. Nice.

14. Panthers' Kulikov is no surprise either. Florida is a good fit for the skilled Russian blueliner.

15. Ducks' Holland is size and strength going to a team built on that philosophy. He should fit in just nicely on a line behind the Getzlaf-Perry dynamic duo.

16. Wild's Leddy satisfies the home crowd, a Minnesota boy.

17. Blues' Rundblad is one of those exciting upside picks going to a team with rising potential. This looks like a good fit for the near future.

18. Habs' LeBlanc satisfies the home crowd, a French boy.

19. Rangers' Kreider is funny given NY's failure to get value out of high priced centers signed. The speedy kid joins a team with several slow footed skaters, an organization in need of an identity shift. Both of the next two drafted pivots seem better suited to this team but time will tell.

20. Devils' Josefson is a Lou kind of guy, committed to playing defense while also having offensive talent. A natural fit.

21. Bluejackets' Moore is the next best North American blueliner to an organization that could use him. A low key pick for a low key franchise.

22. Canucks' Schoeder had his name mispronounced by Luongo but that'll change if he helps provide center ice depth on a team that hasn't been deep at that position in the last decade.

23. Flames' Erixon was a Sutter pick no doubt and good defense to a team that wants to improve in that regard. Nice fit.

24. Caps' Johansson is no Calle, but he is another of a number of European picks by Washington that seem to pan out. Center ice with Fedorov gone seems natural.

25. Bruins' Caron is a duh pick. Of course!

26-29 all were 'whatever' picks to me, not sure what to make of them. Ducks' forward Palmieri, Canes' center Paradis, Hawks d Olsen, Lightning's getting rw Ashton.

30. Pens' Despres was a pick many predicted, a French blueliner to Pittsburgh, a team with several key position francophones in the organization, and at a position the team could use more puck movement at. A natural fit.

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5.)

LOL. Yeah. We should have taken Kaberle (LOL) to fill a hole that does not really need filling. Instead, we draft the 1-2 punch down the middle for the next 10 years.

And what's wrong with looking farther ahead than the present? Perhaps the Kings are looking to the present, as re-building is part of their plan. How many more years is Stoll signed for? 2? Sounds about time for Schenn to step in.

This team is still building, and the Kings goal is to challenge for the Stanley Cup, not just make the playoffs to suit you or anyone but ownership. As long as they're on board, then it's nunya.

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HAHAHHAHA @ 5 ....get over it. He is what we need. Dont be a hater, damn.

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this minnesotan isn't happy...if we were wanting leddy, why didn't we trade the #12 for something like the #25 and get more picks...say, a second rounder on top of what we got? We also need offense far more than defense. Good forecheckers. But instead we take a small defenseman out of High School. I can't wait to hear the team's reasoning behind this, and hope it amounts to more than "We thought he was the best player available."

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i think this draft was very well done so far, the isles reaching for de haan is a tad interesting ,but it could be a home run who knows. I'm an avs fan so i'm glad things went chalk and we got duchene, i think he will be a fantastic centre in the NHL and will give the avs an amazing 1 2 punch down the middle with Stastny and Duchene, best in our division by far if they both play to their potential

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Schoeder will play wing in the Nhl. He doesnt provide center depth at all.

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#6 Take it for what its worth but I think OEL will be the best defenseman from this draft. The kid can do everything at high levels and has good size too. To be honest I haven't been more impressed by an underaged defenseman since Leetch. His long passing is off the charts and it almost reminds me of Brad Park or Sergei Zubov. Great, great pick for the Yotes.

#12 IMO the Isles made a great move in getting de Haan. After OEL and Ellis I don't think there's a more skilled defenseman in this draft. They gave up a lot to get him but he has Brian Campbell written all over him. With two studs like the Isles have gotten in this 1st round, they've already had a great draft. Couple that will all the solid picks from last year and they're set for a long time. Now player developement has to kick in.

#30 I'm hoping that the Pens can turn Despres into a Robyn Regehr clone. A big, mobile, nasty defender that can break up plays and move the puck up ice. IMO he doesn't have an overly offensive game and doesn't seem to be a PP QB. People get fooled by his skating but he seems like more of an Orpik type... at least to me.

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06-27-2009, 07:48 AM
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5. Kings' Schenn ought to have been traded for Kaberle, the L.A. franchise not needing more young draft pick forwards, the lamest performing franchise again looking farther ahead than the present. The first 'bad fit' pick.
This I disagree with very strongly. The Kings did not have an adequate offensive core in place, and badly needed another blue-chip forward. They were right to keep the pick and select a forward, in my opinion.

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8. Stars' Glennie was a pick that could have waited, Dallas missing an opportunity to trade down two or three spots. Nothing exciting about this fit.
I strongly doubt the Stars had much, if any, room for trading down if they wanted Glennie. He could easily have gone to Ottawa at 9th. I for one expected him to be among the first 10-11 picks. the fit seems OK, the Stars aren't exactly loaded with top prospects and basically need everything.

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9. Senators' Cowen does go to an Ontario team after all, only not the one expected. Ottawa sure needs d. Great fit. Burke might rue not taking this guy after some Sens-Leafs matchups.
Why? They took Nilsson and Lee with two of their last four picks, a quite adequate future foundation for a blueline that is in any case not in any very urgent need of overhaul except perhaps for a puck-carrier, which Cowen isn't. They have a far more obvious need for added offense up front, which they have not come close to addressing in the past four drafts.
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11. Predators' Ellis is another of many quality blueliners in Nashville. Why stockpile so many? The team can/must trade a defenseman or two a bit down the road or at least not have to trade for one. A good fit if the team philosophy is to build from the net out. Perhaps he's the best pick available in their opinion. Shrug.
I really don't see that either. They already have a promising PP specialist in Blum, plus Weber. But Ellis, despite his shortcomings, is evidently a special talent and I guess you can make a case for just going with that.

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12. Isles' De Haan smells like overeager, myopic scouting coupled with overzealous splashing for the fans, as the team overpaid to move up unnecessarily. Couldn't the guy have been available at 16th, where they already paid a lot to move up to? TSN should have asked this question of them.
You never know, it may well be that other teams in the mid-round had their sights set on him as well. But it is certainly surprising that it should be necessary to trade up to get him. Or that he would justify such a high selection.

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16. Wild's Leddy satisfies the home crowd, a Minnesota boy.
But so would schroeder, and in any case the Wild haven't been very inclined in that direction up until now. A question mark selection - Leddy will have to do very well to justify his selection over some the names that went after him.

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17. Blues' Rundblad is one of those exciting upside picks going to a team with rising potential. This looks like a good fit for the near future.
What I like about this is that he is an all-rounder, with a tilt towards the skilled end. That's a good fit for a team who already has the main slots covered.
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18. Habs' LeBlanc satisfies the home crowd, a French boy.
More to the point, he is a type of player that fits the Canadiens philsosophy, and who is considered to have terrific upside potential.

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19. Rangers' Kreider is funny given NY's failure to get value out of high priced centers signed. The speedy kid joins a team with several slow footed skaters, an organization in need of an identity shift. Both of the next two drafted pivots seem better suited to this team but time will tell.
I think the expectation is for Kreider to be a winger at the NHL level, and in my opinion he's a perfect fit for a Rangers organisation that already boasts Grachev, Anisimov, Del Zotto and Sanguinetti.

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20. Devils' Josefson is a Lou kind of guy, committed to playing defense while also having offensive talent. A natural fit.
As well as a potential steal at 20, and a great linemate for Mattias Tedenby.

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21. Bluejackets' Moore is the next best North American blueliner to an organization that could use him. A low key pick for a low key franchise.
A terrific pick. Moore has everything the Jackets blueline urgently needs, and by all accounts has plenty of potential. Could be a real steal.
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22. Canucks' Schoeder had his name mispronounced by Luongo but that'll change if he helps provide center ice depth on a team that hasn't been deep at that position in the last decade.
Again, expectations would be winger rather than center in the NHL. But in any case, when did the Nucks last have two offensive prospects as dynamic as Hodgson and Schroeder? Their obvious need was for a defenseman, but it's not hard to see why they didn't pass up this opportunity.
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23. Flames' Erixon was a Sutter pick no doubt and good defense to a team that wants to improve in that regard. Nice fit.
Yes, especially with the D being the weakest point in the Flames prospects group and Erixons status soaring. There were reportedly teams who had him in the top 10.

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24. Caps' Johansson is no Calle, but he is another of a number of European picks by Washington that seem to pan out. Center ice with Fedorov gone seems natural.
Winger. Seems to lack a very clear definition. Not easy to get a handle on.


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26-29 all were 'whatever' picks to me, not sure what to make of them. Ducks' forward Palmieri, Canes' center Paradis, Hawks d Olsen, Lightning's getting rw Ashton.
Palmieri was a really good pick by the Ducks IMO. Olsen was no surprise, and a very good fit for Chicago. Paradis doesn't make any sense to me - everything I've read about him suggests "checking line centre with decent skills", which is hardly the best you could hope for at 27 this year. Plus, Center is alreaqdy the Canes strongest position in terms of youth. Ashton a good fit for the Lightning, who lacks that kind of winger (and wingers generally) in their system.

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30. Pens' Despres was a pick many predicted, a French blueliner to Pittsburgh, a team with several key position francophones in the organization, and at a position the team could use more puck movement at. A natural fit.
I really think you're overestimating the background factor, generally here. AFAICS, the Pens blueline already have quite a few good puck movers. This is one pick that fails to make clear sense to me. Perhaps no other team will be as dependent as the Penguins on finding players through the draft who can be slotted into the lineup, with the money they have tied down in big contracts for their top players. And Despres does not seem a very safe bet, nor does he have much definition. You'd think someone like Landon Ferraro or Jeremy Morin would suit them better.

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Look for Kadri to take the spot of Grabovski in a year or two.

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Yeah, Kreider will definitely play wing. He's even said in interviews he likes to play wing and I think he's played it more than center. i don't know why he's listed as a center.

I think he's a good fit, pick wise. A fast, big, winger with skills? Well, honestly, how is that not a good fit for just about any team. But digging into it a bit more deeply, he's more of a potential homerun pick than someone like Josefson, who will probably be a good two way player but not a dynamic scorer. In theory, if Kreider pans out, he should have a higher offensive upside, and that's what the Rangers need. He's just got some big question marks, so he's pretty boom or bust on the offensive side of things.

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Paradis projects as a winger for the Canes from everything I've heard. Central Scouting lists him as a center, but the QMJHL site lists him as a winger. My guess is they hope he can turn into a Cole replacement, or at least a good checking line winger. Still don't like the pick at all though, considering that there was a good chance he could have still been there at #51.

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I always had Schenn to LA pegged. It's a perfect fit IMHO..... they're pretty set on the blueline, and have nice depth with scoring and finesse forwards. They needed a gritty, heart and soul top 6 forward and they got him. His game reminds me a lot of a young Messier.

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5. Kings' Schenn ought to have been traded for Kaberle, the L.A. franchise not needing more young draft pick forwards, the lamest performing franchise again looking farther ahead than the present. The first 'bad fit' pick.
You should think before you speak. The Kings have all kinds of depth at goal at D, they are very shallow at Forward
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LOL. Yeah. We should have taken Kaberle (LOL) to fill a hole that does not really need filling. Instead, we draft the 1-2 punch down the middle for the next 10 years.

And what's wrong with looking farther ahead than the present? Perhaps the Kings are looking to the present, as re-building is part of their plan. How many more years is Stoll signed for? 2? Sounds about time for Schenn to step in.

This team is still building, and the Kings goal is to challenge for the Stanley Cup, not just make the playoffs to suit you or anyone but ownership. As long as they're on board, then it's nunya.
Agreed, Schenn was the right decision for the Kings. They will be nasty in the future. Only a matter of time.

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Paradis projects as a winger for the Canes from everything I've heard. Central Scouting lists him as a center, but the QMJHL site lists him as a winger. My guess is they hope he can turn into a Cole replacement, or at least a good checking line winger. Still don't like the pick at all though, considering that there was a good chance he could have still been there at #51.
I think it was a good pick for you guys. I highly doubt he would have been there at #51.

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my first impression of l.a.'s defense situation is based on the kings being below average in goals against

a team i haven't watched much

i didn't claim any kind of authority, gave my impression of team-by-team's picks, and thought a team like the kings that continually misses the playoffs might trade to get some pieces to help them be competitive rather thna perpetually build for the future

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The Sens can still get some nice young players or prospects if we trade Heatley

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Yeah, Kreider will definitely play wing. He's even said in interviews he likes to play wing and I think he's played it more than center. i don't know why he's listed as a center.

I think he's a good fit, pick wise. A fast, big, winger with skills? Well, honestly, how is that not a good fit for just about any team. But digging into it a bit more deeply, he's more of a potential homerun pick than someone like Josefson, who will probably be a good two way player but not a dynamic scorer. In theory, if Kreider pans out, he should have a higher offensive upside, and that's what the Rangers need. He's just got some big question marks, so he's pretty boom or bust on the offensive side of things.
I think it was an excellent pick by the rags, and when you think about it, his only knock is where his hockey IQ is at due to level of competition. But isn't that the most teachable part of the game? The beauty is, he'll have at least 3 yrs at BC to put it all together. As an Oil fan I was hoping we'd make some move to get another pick, because this kid will be lights out. Will look very good on the left side of Dubinsky. Thas a lot of speed and size.

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Think of a line with Dubinsky flanked by Kreider and Grachev

Or even Anisimov centering them...he's probably got more natural upside than Dubinsky

the size and speed are definitely intriguing

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my first impression of l.a.'s defense situation is based on the kings being below average in goals against

a team i haven't watched much

i didn't claim any kind of authority, gave my impression of team-by-team's picks, and thought a team like the kings that continually misses the playoffs might trade to get some pieces to help them be competitive rather thna perpetually build for the future
The Kings were 11th in GAA, please tell me how that is below average?

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Why? They took Nilsson and Lee with two of their last four picks, a quite adequate future foundation for a blueline that is in any case not in any very urgent need of overhaul except perhaps for a puck-carrier, which Cowen isn't. They have a far more obvious need for added offense up front, which they have not come close to addressing in the past four drafts.
What?! We have 2 top of the line PMD in Karlsson and Wiercoch, our defense is going to be top 5 when everyone comes up.

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The Kings were 11th in GAA, please tell me how that is below average?
not in the top-15 in total goals against for the 08-09 season, hence "below average"

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18. Habs' LeBlanc satisfies the home crowd, a French boy.

brilliant, astute cultural and hockey analysis. with analysis like this did it even need a thread?

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I think it was a good pick for you guys. I highly doubt he would have been there at #51.
I'm actually glad to hear that a lot of others think it's a good pick. Don't get me wrong, I knew his totals were down because of the role he played on his team, but I'm just not sure about his upside.

Love the Canes last 2 picks right now.
Demoulin is a project but he could be a top 4 defenseman in 5 years or so. One of the youngest guys in the draft so they can take their time letting him develop, hopefully.
Lindstrom, while raw, looks like a possible Holmstrom or Swedish Lucic, at the very least a Swedish Craig Adams.

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10. Oilers' MPS is the most natural fit of the first round, the skilled hustlin' passionate wheels in Edmonton. He should feel just at home. Great fit.


18. Habs' LeBlanc satisfies the home crowd, a French boy.
Hey buddy...
Two things.

I'm not sold on MSP. Could end up being a Christopher Higgins 2.0 (with better dekes...), which wouldn't be bad, but let's not make MSP into Forsberg part 2, please. Thought he was overrated and fell accordingly. He could also end up being much worse than Higgins as well.

Has for Leblanc, one must remember that it's been a while since the Habs had a Top-6 Center taller than 5'11. So yeah, he's french, but he really, really fills a need.

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