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06-27-2009, 01:24 PM
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Can't it be more?
Well yes, because the team still controls the player's rights and can negotiate a long term extension, but for the purpose of a qualifying offer I'm pretty sure it's just one year.

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06-27-2009, 01:27 PM
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Smart to take Zherdev back. Kids got talent and that's not debatable. Let's see if he can start to use it.
Doesn't mean we are keeping him. He isn't signed yet, just offered a QO. We retain his rights after July 1st, nothing more.

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06-27-2009, 01:29 PM
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Can Sjostrom play left wing? Also, if he played on a third line, what kind of point production could be expected.

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Well yes, because the team still controls the player's rights and can negotiate a long term extension, but for the purpose of a qualifying offer I'm pretty sure it's just one year.
Ok, the purpose is to keep a guy RFA. I just hope Sather offered a bit more in terms of length than one single year to our RFAs.

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06-27-2009, 01:47 PM
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what a horrendous horrendous off-season so far.

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Crease clearing dman... Hm...

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Hopefully its Malik for about 7.5 million. He really bulldozed people.

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06-27-2009, 01:58 PM
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Our PK was was the only thing that kept us afloat at times last season. It was the only part of our team other than our goalie where we had a legit advantage over the competition.

Sather thinks Betts will leave and now it seems Sjostrom will be allowed to walk? That's a quick way to turn the best PK in the league into an average one.

Sjostrom wasn't that expensive. He would be a little cheaper than Betts. So if they don't think Sjostrom is worth the qualifying offer they certainly don't think Betts is worth what he's going to get as a UFA.

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06-27-2009, 02:25 PM
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I'd like to see Sjo brought back in for cheap, if possible. If not, oh well.

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Ok, the purpose is to keep a guy RFA. I just hope Sather offered a bit more in terms of length than one single year to our RFAs.
The Qualifying Offer is just a formality, really. Players will sometimes sign the QO and play under that for year if a contract can't be worked out. It's kind of like the franchise tag in the NFL.

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06-27-2009, 02:52 PM
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I love Sjostrom, and while most think he's expendable if he wants more than league minimum, I disagree. Try to retain him by all means necessary.. you need players like him to win. If Voros and Rissmiller at 1 mil each pushes Sjostrom out, I will be furious. dump em both and give Freddy 2mil.

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what a horrendous horrendous off-season so far.
What's so horrendous about it? We had a fine draft, as far as anyone can say.

Our GM has actually made comments about becoming financially alert and responsible. Not caving in to contractual demands of Sjostrom, Betts, and Antropov is a good thing.

I was really against it towards the end of the season, but there's no way you can walk away from Nik Zherdev at 3.25. That's a really fair price for a 60 point getter. You also need that on a cash strapped team.

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Its not the end of the world losing the entire 4th line because I think Torts will be using maninly 3

and I know this is nuts but Voros, Boyle,Rissmiller is a big 4th line. I do think one goes to Hartford and Byers makes it though

they have to qualify Zherdev. He has too much talent not to be in their plans

Korpikoski can do the job on the PK aswell

Boyle adds size for sure

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06-27-2009, 03:07 PM
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Our PK was far more a product of Henrik Lundqvist than Betts and Sjo imho. it would be interesting to note what the PK% was with those 2 on the ice, and with other players on the ice...i'd wager its almost the same either way....they just got so much more ice time than everyone else.

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06-27-2009, 03:23 PM
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Qualifying just means a player who is an RFA was offered a single year contract. They also remain a RFA, and can only be subject to offer sheets.

If you don't qualify a RFA, they become a UFA, and can sign anywhere, including the team that didn't qualify them.

There are a couple of rules based on how much the player made in the previous contract, so since Sjo made 800k, the Rangers needed to qualify him with a 5% raise. So they probably don't think he deserves that much, but it doesn't close the door on him returning.
Thanks a lot for clearing that up

It would really suck to see Sjo leave.

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06-27-2009, 03:23 PM
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Not qualifying Zherdev would have been horrendous asset management. He would have became a UFA and we would have gotten nothing for him. Sather was probably uneasy about giving Nicky a long term contract extension. This allows us to keep Zherdev as an asset and either trade him, play him for one more year or get compensation if someone offer sheets him (unlikely).

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06-27-2009, 03:31 PM
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I dont get this at all. Dont the Rangers more than anyone need decent players that come cheaply? I would have thought signing him for <$1M would have been a no brainer.

EDIT: If the Devils lose John Madden, would Sjostrom be an adequate replacement on the PK or is that asking way to much?

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06-27-2009, 03:44 PM
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Yeah, but now you can negotiate something lower than the QO. If he signs for $500-600K, you bring him back. If someone else out there offers him a Rissmiller/Voros type package (entirely possible - he brings more to the table than either of those guys), you let him walk.

This is sensible cap management.
The QO was $882,000. It's a 1 year deal.

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06-27-2009, 03:46 PM
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I dont get this at all. Dont the Rangers more than anyone need decent players that come cheaply? I would have thought signing him for <$1M would have been a no brainer.

EDIT: If the Devils lose John Madden, would Sjostrom be an adequate replacement on the PK or is that asking way to much?
Sjostrom won't come close to duplicating Madden's worse offensive season.

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they just retain Zherdev's rights. That's all it means unless he signs the qualifier.

cheap RFAs are allowed to walk sometimes. a few years back, the Devils didn't qualify Oduya. I thought that was ******** at the time. But then they signed him to a 2 year deal for less than the qualifer per year.

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06-27-2009, 03:54 PM
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Sjostrom won't come close to duplicating Madden's worse offensive season.
I didnt mean in terms of offensive capabilities, I meant just strictly as a PK specialist. I didnt pay much attention to Sjostrom this year, but it seems from the comments here people think he was pretty awesome on the PK (and if the Devils do lose Madden like most people seem to think, that area needs help).

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He's solid. I wouldn't say he's a outstanding defensive player and he certainly wasn't the glue that kept it together or anything, but he blocks shots relatively well, has good speed and has pretty good defensive awareness. He doesn't cause many turnovers and doesn't really have the hands to be a real SH goal threat, but when he's coupled with a good defensive center he's good. I wouldn't expect him alone to turn many heads though.

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Sjostrom is a great defensive winger, but this team needs offense in the worst way. Betts and Sjo are good PKers, but they contribute nothing offensively. We all know Torts isn't a defensive minded coach, so I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see 3 new faces on the 4th line this year.

Byers - Boyle - ?

Do we have someone in Hartford ready to step up and take that role? Though, if Grachev makes the team out of Camp, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see Korpikoski wind up on the 4th line again.

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Hopefully its Malik for about 7.5 million. He really bulldozed people.

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