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HFBoards TOP 100 ranking: Forwards #18

View Poll Results: Best forward
Semin 9 8.82%
D.Sedin 2 1.96%
Gagne 2 1.96%
Gaborik 8 7.84%
Spezza 11 10.78%
Kopitar 1 0.98%
St.Louis 14 13.73%
Vanek 7 6.86%
Carter 8 7.84%
H.Sedin 0 0%
Backstrom 4 3.92%
Morrow 2 1.96%
Elias 1 0.98%
Savard 32 31.37%
Other (name him) 1 0.98%
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06-28-2009, 03:01 PM
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06-28-2009, 03:47 PM
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Savard definately isn't #18, I have absolutely NO idea why guys like Nash, Hossa, Richards or even Staal are ranked so damn high.

This whole poll is ridiculous, voted on with a "what have you done for me lately" mentality and it's getting stupid. It's likely that either 46G(2nd in goals) scorer Jeff Carter or 88pt Backstrom(10th in points), both with tremendous 2way games will likely be left out of the top 20.

Somehow though:
Marian Hossa who has averaged 34G-68pt in last 2 seasons and scored a whopping 3A's in the Finals has been ranked #16.

Mike Richards who has averaged 29G-77pts in last 2 seasons and scored 5pts en route a 1st round defeat has been ranked #13.

Rick Nash a guy who still hasen't hit over 80pts after 6 full NHL seasons, has been ranked #14.

Get this **** outta here, its embarrassing.
You're a hypocrite.

You're looking at it exactly the same way, 'what have you done for me lately?' Who knows if those guys eclipse those numbers ever again.

Hossa averages 0.93 PPG over the last 2 seasons, but I guess it's convenient to leave out the 100 and 92 point seasons prior to those if you look at it through the 'what have you done for me lately?' outlook.

Mike Richards defensive game is at the top of the league, perhaps you forgot to mention that of those 29 G per season, he averages 6 SH goals. Pretty impressive. If you can get a forward who gives it all, is a top 5 two-way player in the league, and scores 80 points, hell yes he's one of the best players in the game.

While I don't agree with Nash being rated so high, to indicate 80 points is the level at which he enters elite is stupid, 79 points in 78 games last year more than qualifies him for your magical '80 point plateau'.

Anyways, I still stick with my top 20 list give or take a position or 2

1. Ovechkin
2. Malkin
3. Crosby
4. Datsyuk
5. Kovalchuk
6. Iginla
7. Getzlaf
8. Zetterberg
9. Thornton
10. Lecavalier
11. Parise
12. Savard
13. Alfredsson
14. M.Richards
15. E.Staal
16. Semin
17. St. Louis
18. Nash
19. Hossa
20. Heatley

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06-28-2009, 04:37 PM
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I voted for Savard, but Marleau should be on this list...

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You serious? Savard has more points than most players on the list in the past 3-4 seasons, and he never had a Lecavalier on his line. Best he ever had in Boston was Glen Murray.

Savard has 1.12 pts/game since the lockout

St.Louis has exactly 1.00 pt / game since the lockout

Thats about 10 pts MORE on average per season than St.Louis.



sooooooo, yeah. Care to reconsider?
No. I know who the better player is;

Hart, Pearson, Art Ross, and a Stanley Cup

Vs.

A higher PPG average.

Once the Lightning get their act somewhat together you will all remember how good this guy is.

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06-28-2009, 05:07 PM
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No. I know who the better player is;

Hart, Pearson, Art Ross, and a Stanley Cup

Vs.

A higher PPG average.

Once the Lightning get their act somewhat together you will all remember how good this guy is.
So one good season back in 03-04 means hes still as good today? Seriously guy.

I guess hes better than Ovechkin too based on your logic

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So one good season back in 03-04 means hes still as good today? Seriously guy.

I guess hes better than Ovechkin too based on your logic
Lol. Nice straw man.

He put up eighty points on a bad team... a team that the great Vinny Lecavalier couldn't hit seventy points on... the number ten rated forward on this list. In a fantasy draft i might take Savard ahead of MSL. In real life, MSL eight days a week.

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Vinny couldn't hit it because he had his shoulder injury, for christs sake the guy could barely take shots.

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