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06-28-2009, 02:16 PM
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"Your" new top 20?

A Day after the draft who is added/subtracted from your new Kings top 20 prospects list?

Schenn for sure is a top 2 or 3 guy, not sure if he's our top guy but he may as well be.

Clifford could be a 15-20 guy based on his draft position and the guys already on the list.

After that I'm just not sure who gets added.

My top 20 is as follows;

1.Schenn
2.Hickey
3.Moller
4.Bernier
5.Tuebert
6.Voinov
7.Purcell
8.Lewis
9.Jones
10.Martinez
11.Zatkoff
12.Loktionov
13.Azevedo
14.Drewiski
15.Cliche
16.Roe
17.King
18.Clifford
19.Holloway
20.Wudrick

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06-28-2009, 02:22 PM
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Loktionov > Purcell.

Book it.

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06-28-2009, 02:22 PM
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1. Brayden Schenn
2. Thomas Hickey
3. Jonathan Bernier
4. Oscar Moller
5. Colten Teubert
6. Vyacheslav Voynov
7. Trevor Lewis
8. Andrei Loktionov
9. Ted Purcell
10. Martin Jones
11. Kyle Clifford
12. Dave Drewiske
13. Jeff Zatkoff
14. Alec Martinez
15. Bud Holloway
16. Geordie Wudrick
17. Nicolas Deslauriers
18. Andrew Campbell
19. Jean-Francois Berube
20. Marc Andre Cliche

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06-28-2009, 02:36 PM
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(graduated: Simmonds, Purcell, Moller, Quick)

1. Hickey
2. Schenn
3. Bernier
4. Voinov
5. Jones
6. Loktionov
7. Teubert
8. Lewis
9. Drewiske
10. Martinez
11. Zatkoff
12. Clifford
13. King

...I'll stop there. Rest of them don't have much NHL potential (except the 4th liners & maybe Berube).

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06-28-2009, 02:47 PM
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1.Schenn
2.Hickey
3.Bernier
4.Moller
5.Voinov
6.Lotkionov
7.Purcell
8.Teubert
9.Lewis
10.Clifford
11.Zatkoff
12. Jones
13. Deslauriers
14. Martinez
15.Cliche
16.Clune
17.Westgarth
18.Vey
19.Mullen
20.Elkins

I consider Drewiske graduated, no matter how HF defines graduated...

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06-28-2009, 03:23 PM
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1. Brayden Schenn
2. Thomas Hickey
3. Oscar Moller
4. Jonathan Bernier
5. Colten Teubert
6. Vyacheslav Voynov
7. Trevor Lewis
8. Andrei Loktionov
9. Ted Purcell
10. Kyle Clifford
11. Davis Drewiske
12. Alec Martinez
13. Martin Jones
14. Dwight King
15. Robbie Czarnik
16. Jeff Zatkoff
17. Geordie Wudrick
18. Nicolas Deslauriers
19. Linden Vey
20. Justin Azevedo

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06-28-2009, 07:06 PM
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1. Brayden Schenn
2. Oscar Moller
3. Thomas Hickey
4. Jonathan Bernier
5. Vyacheslav Voynov
6. Colten Teubert
7. Teddy Purcell
8. Trevor Lewis
9. Andrei Loktionov
10. Kyle Clifford
11. Davis Drewiske
12. Alec Martinez
13. Jeff Zatkoff
14. Nicolas Deslauriers
15. Bud Holloway
16. Justin Azevedo
17. Garrett Roe
18. Martin Jones
19. Dwight King,
20. David Meckler

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06-28-2009, 07:40 PM
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1. Schenn
2. Hickey
3. Bernier
4. Moller
5. Teubert
6. Voinov
7. Lewis
8. Loktionov
9. Purcell
10. Jones
11. Clifford
12. Drewiske
13. Zatkoff
14. Berube
15. Deslauriers
16. Martinez
17. Czarnik
18. Wudrick
19. Vey
20. King

Honorable mention to Garrett Roe.

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06-28-2009, 07:56 PM
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1. Schenn
2. Hickey
3. Bernier
4. Moller
5. Loktionov
6. Voinov
7. Teubert
8. Lewis
9. Purcell
10. Drewiske
11. Zatkoff
12. Clifford
13. Jones
14. Wudrick
15. Martinez

A wash after that for me.

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06-28-2009, 07:58 PM
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Dwight King needs a lot more love here. He'll get your attention in Manchester next year.

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06-28-2009, 08:06 PM
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Just off the top of my head:

01. Jonathan Bernier
02. Brayden Schenn
03. Thomas Hickey
04. Jonathan Quick
05. Slava Voynov
06. Trevor Lewis
07. Colton Teubert
08. Oscar Moller
09. Andrei Loktionov
10. Martin Jones

from there it gets a little iffy.

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06-28-2009, 08:31 PM
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I will only do a top 10....after that is makes little difference.

1) Schenn
2) Moller
3) Hickey
4) Bernier
5) Voinov
6) Teubert
7) Loktionov
8) Lewis
9) Clifford
10) Jones

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Dwight King needs a lot more love here. He'll get your attention in Manchester next year.
Not sure he's shown a whole lot to deserve more love. The dude has been "just a guy" for two seasons since being drafted. I understand his game doesn't show up a ton on the score sheet, but very few things have been written praising the kid. He's on my list and he signed a multi year contract, so there's some love. Not sure what you're looking for? Top 10? Not yet IMO, maybe if he plays well in Manchester next season.

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06-28-2009, 11:38 PM
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why is Moller on everyone's list and Simmonds isn't when they both have spent equal time in the NHL?

These types of lists are annoyingly random.

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1) Schenn
2) Moller
3) Bernier
5) Voinov
6) Loktionov
8) Lewis
9) Hickey (maybe)

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why is Moller on everyone's list and Simmonds isn't when they both have spent equal time in the NHL?

These types of lists are annoyingly random.
Oscar Moller played in 30 games before his injury at the world juniors while Simmonds played all 82 and was a significant player as a rookie. That's why. I think alot of us still consider Moller a prospect and a good one at that.

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why is Moller on everyone's list and Simmonds isn't when they both have spent equal time in the NHL?

These types of lists are annoyingly random.

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A player will be considered a prospect until he meets the following criteria:

1) If a prospect is a skater (forward, defenseman) and has played in 65 NHL games or more before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday; or, if a goaltender has played in 45 NHL games before the completion of the season of his 24th birthday, that player will be considered graduated to the NHL. Conversely, if a player completes the season of his 24th birthday without passing those milestones, then that player will no longer be considered a prospect by Hockey’s Future, regardless of the player’s status with his NHL club.

2) An NCAA player who signs his first contract at or above the age of 22 has three years to meet the above criteria (65/45), while those NCAA players that turn pro under the age of 22 will be subjected to
the criteria above.

3) European players who sign their first NHL contract at or above the age of 22 have three seasons from the time they sign that contract to meet the above criteria. Those European players below the age of 22 that have signed a NHL contract will be subjected to the criteria in section one.
Simmonds played in more than 65 games.....Moller did not.

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(graduated: Simmonds, Purcell, Moller, Quick)

1. Hickey
2. Schenn
3. Bernier
4. Voinov
5. Jones
6. Loktionov
7. Teubert
8. Lewis
9. Drewiske
10. Martinez
11. Zatkoff
12. Clifford
13. King

...I'll stop there. Rest of them don't have much NHL potential (except the 4th liners & maybe Berube).
agree with this one

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1. Oscar Moller, RW
2. Brayden Schenn, C
3. Thomas Hickey, D
4. Jonathan Bernier, G
5. Vyacheslav Voinov, D
6. Colten Teubert, D
7. Andrei Loktionov, C
8. Ted Purcell, RW
9. Trevor Lewis, C
10. Kyle Clifford, LW
11. Jeff Zatkoff, G
12. Martin Jones, G
13. Matt Moulson, LW
14. Alec Martinez, D
15. Bud Holloway, C
16. Davis Drewiske, D
17. Nicolas Deslauriers, D
18. Scott Parse, LW
19. Marc-Andre Cliche, RW
20. Geordie Wudrick, LW

Honorable mentions -
David Meckler, C
Kevin Westgarth, C
Jean-Francois Berube, G
Dwight King, LW
Robert Czarnik, C
Andrew Campbell, D
Drew Bagnall, D
Joe Piskula, D

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06-29-2009, 01:35 AM
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People that have Jones higher than 10 are on rock coCAINE!

Not only have you probably NEVER seen him play, at least more than once, you fail to recognize that he wasn't the only goalie in the dub that had stats like his (which is UNDOUBTEDLY why you're ranking him so high), and his weren't even the best in some categories.

give me a break. These are all just rehashes of some version HF or a prospects mag put out with a little personal spin. If these had any, even slight dose of reality, Hickey and Bernier would be 1/2 on every single list, with almost no exceptions, and Loki would be top 5 on each.

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whoa, calm down there ...

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whoa, calm down there ...
perfectly calm dude.

yeah, waving the ****ing gun around?

calmer than you are.

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perfectly calm dude.

yeah, waving the ****ing gun around?

calmer than you are.
nihilists

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People that have Jones higher than 10 are on rock coCAINE!

Not only have you probably NEVER seen him play, at least more than once, you fail to recognize that he wasn't the only goalie in the dub that had stats like his (which is UNDOUBTEDLY why you're ranking him so high), and his weren't even the best in some categories.

give me a break. These are all just rehashes of some version HF or a prospects mag put out with a little personal spin. If these had any, even slight dose of reality, Hickey and Bernier would be 1/2 on every single list, with almost no exceptions, and Loki would be top 5 on each.
So, I guess you missed the title that said "YOUR new top 20". I haven't seen your list yet. You can leave him off your list, have at it. It's all for fun anyway. I highly doubt anyone here is an expert and make their living scouting prospects. At best, we're all off the mark at some point.

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Donny, these men are nihilists. There's nothing to be afraid of.

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