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07-02-2009, 10:00 AM
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I doubt heavily you see Nodl in the minors.

Gagne-Richards-Briere
Hartnell-Carter-Giroux
Lappy-Powe-Nodl
Carcillo-AHL-Asham


Kalinski
Ross
Matsumoto
JVR

I think Matsumoto is ready.
I'll take a stab.

Gagne-Richards-Briere
Hartnell-Carter-Giroux
Lappy-Ross-Nodl
Carcillo-Powe-Asham

I like Ross. I'd like to see him up with us more. He's fast as hell. However, I'm not quite sure how he is with faceoffs. Maybe someone who has watched the Phantoms more than me could tell us how he is on the dot.

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07-02-2009, 10:02 AM
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Personally I'd much rather Ross, who had over a point per game in the AHL, and is really ****ing fast.
Thats fine too....I just want someone that isnt a mucker/grinder.

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07-02-2009, 10:09 AM
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I'd love to move Jones/Carle, sign a cheap 6th guy and try to get a Saku Koivu. Don't know how it gets done, but I'd love for that to happen.

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Everyone having Nodl and Ross on line three is making my head absolutely SPIN out of control. Carcillo now has a mentor of Lapierre in the locker room and on the ice to show him how is role SHOULD be played w/o putting your team shorthanded. Someone posted earliar 160+ PIM with only 14 obstruction calls. I still think we need to drop one of Jones/Carle to get a 3rd line center and do it liek this.

Gagne - Richards - Briere
Hartnell - Carter - Giroux
Carcillo - FA/D-specialist - Lappy
Powe - Kalinski - Asham

That is how I see the forward lines shaping up. I'm not giving up any faith in Carcillo, I do not know much about Lappy so maybe switch him and Powe depending how he does in camp and who is gelllllllllllllllin.

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07-02-2009, 10:17 AM
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Everyone having Nodl and Ross on line three is making my head absolutely SPIN out of control. Carcillo now has a mentor of Lapierre in the locker room and on the ice to show him how is role SHOULD be played w/o putting your team shorthanded. Someone posted earliar 160+ PIM with only 14 obstruction calls. I still think we need to drop one of Jones/Carle to get a 3rd line center and do it liek this.

Gagne - Richards - Briere
Hartnell - Carter - Giroux
Carcillo - FA/D-specialist - Lappy
Powe - Kalinski - Asham

That is how I see the forward lines shaping up. I'm not giving up any faith in Carcillo, I do not know much about Lappy so maybe switch him and Powe depending how he does in camp and who is gelllllllllllllllin.
I am fine with that as long as the center has some skill....I think Carcillo has a lot more to offer than we have seen. I just dont want to see Lappy and Asham together on the 3rd line.

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07-02-2009, 10:28 AM
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I am fine with that as long as the center has some skill....I think Carcillo has a lot more to offer than we have seen. I just dont want to see Lappy and Asham together on the 3rd line.
He does. We started to see some of it in the playoffs.

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07-02-2009, 11:47 AM
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Recchi signed for 1 mil 1 year deal with Boston. Shame the Flyers didn't sign him, would have loved to have seen him back especially for a cheap contract.

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Recchi signed for 1 mil 1 year deal with Boston. Shame the Flyers didn't sign him, would have loved to have seen him back especially for a cheap contract.
Would have been good, but who's to say he'd come here at that price. He was pretty set on returning to Boston, and the deal he signed shows it.

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07-02-2009, 11:53 AM
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Recchi signed for 1 mil 1 year deal with Boston. Shame the Flyers didn't sign him, would have loved to have seen him back especially for a cheap contract.
We don't need another winger. Especially one that is a one dimensional player. We need a decent 3rd line center that is good at draws.

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07-02-2009, 12:08 PM
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We don't need another winger. Especially one that is a one dimensional player. We need a decent 3rd line center that is good at draws.
I think most of us agree with you, except for the moron that coaches this team that insists Grioux is going to stay at center, which would result in us needing two top 6 wingers....

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07-02-2009, 12:15 PM
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I think most of us agree with you, except for the moron that coaches this team that insists Grioux is going to stay at center, which would result in us needing two top 6 wingers....
The only thing though is that Giroux played relatively well at the center spot last year. Part of the problem with Claude (and it's a great problem to have) is that he's versatile in that he can play all three forward positions.

With that being said, the Bobby Clarke philosophy that center is the most important position and as such, should be the priority, still permeates throughout the team. I agree that I'd rather use Giroux on the wing. However, it's his vision and playmaking ability that makes him much more suited to play center and the fact that he's also a very, very good defensive player (he might just end up being Datsyuk good at defense).

I've said it before and I'll say it again. What this team needs is for Clarke to come down to the ice some time and teach all the forwards how to draw and win a face off. If they're going to learn, might as well learn from one of the best......

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07-02-2009, 12:23 PM
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. What this team needs is for Clarke to come down to the ice some time and teach all the forwards how to draw and win a face off. If they're going to learn, might as well learn from one of the best......
And apparently he has/does.

Some of it is pure practice/experience and learning the tricks of the trade and other centermen.

However, we desperately need that one dominant guy we can put out there when we really need to win a draw. I don't care what role that guy is in, we could carry 5 D and let him rot on the bench and never take a shift except to go win key defensive and offensive zone draws...but it's one of those little things that is really hurting this team.

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07-02-2009, 12:24 PM
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However, we desperately need that one dominant guy we can put out there when we really need to win a draw. I don't care what role that guy is in, we could carry 5 D and let him rot on the bench and never take a shift except to go win key defensive and offensive zone draws...but it's one of those little things that is really hurting this team.
Then Yanic Perreault is your man!

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07-02-2009, 12:27 PM
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The only thing though is that Giroux played relatively well at the center spot last year. Part of the problem with Claude (and it's a great problem to have) is that he's versatile in that he can play all three forward positions.

With that being said, the Bobby Clarke philosophy that center is the most important position and as such, should be the priority, still permeates throughout the team. I agree that I'd rather use Giroux on the wing. However, it's his vision and playmaking ability that makes him much more suited to play center and the fact that he's also a very, very good defensive player (he might just end up being Datsyuk good at defense).

I've said it before and I'll say it again. What this team needs is for Clarke to come down to the ice some time and teach all the forwards how to draw and win a face off. If they're going to learn, might as well learn from one of the best......
He is THAT good of a player, he could probably play defense if we asked him....I still want him clearly in the top 6.....You dont have to play center to be a puck distributor...Just look at Recchi at times in his career, Jagr, Kariya, Datsyuk who plays a lot of wing these days, etc. You just need players that complement each other, doesnt matter what position they play.

If he is paired with Briere, put him at center....If not, I want to see him on the wing and a shut-down center brought in.

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07-02-2009, 04:00 PM
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Rob Scuderi to LA four-year, $13.6 million contract 3.4M per. No way I would pay that type of money. Hell no.

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Rob Scuderi to LA four-year, $13.6 million contract 3.4M per. No way I would pay that type of money. Hell no.
Fine by me. Pittsburgh has lost two of their steadiest d-men already.

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Leafs signed Mikhail Grabovski 3 years 2.9M per year.

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Rob Scuderi to LA four-year, $13.6 million contract 3.4M per. No way I would pay that type of money. Hell no.
I'd rather have Beauchemin at 4.5, but when you're the Kings, you shouldn't be as picky as Dean Lombardi tends to be. At least the Kings are on the board. Last year they didn't sign a single UFA.

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Then Yanic Perreault is your man!
Mike Zigomanis may be another, if we'd be looking for someone who would accept a 1-year deal at $700K.

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Fine by me. Pittsburgh has lost two of their steadiest d-men already.
5 to 1 Pens will go after McKee.
He was steady but 3.4M a year? Before last year we did not even know who Rob Scuderi was.

I think he is making Orpiks $ now.
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I'd rather have Beauchemin at 4.5, but when you're the Kings, you shouldn't be as picky as Dean Lombardi tends to be. At least the Kings are on the board. Last year they didn't sign a single UFA.
Well a year before they went after Handzus, Calder, and trade for Stoll.. Sometimes I think Lombardi better stick with drafting.

I feel like the Flyers need to sign a very good player under market value. Like Tanguay for one year 1.5M. We almost never get those breaks.

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5 to 1 Pens will go after McKee.
He was steady but 3.4M a year? Before last year we did not even know who Rob Scuderi was.

I think he is making Orpiks $ now.
Orpik makes $5M, and the Kings were hard after him last year. In fact there were rumors that the whole Penguins team called him begging him to stay with Pittsburgh and he finally gave in.

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Orpik makes $5M, and the Kings were hard after him last year. In fact there were rumors that the whole Penguins team called him begging him to stay with Pittsburgh and he finally gave in.
I will check it.. Hold on. No way he makes 5. brb

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Orpik makes $5M, and the Kings were hard after him last year. In fact there were rumors that the whole Penguins team called him begging him to stay with Pittsburgh and he finally gave in.
Orpik makes a little under 4M a year. 3.75 to be exact. Per http://www.hockeybuzz.com/cap-central/team.php?team=PIT

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LA needs a d man like Scuderi. Overpayment or not,

I hope Pitts doesnt sign Gauthier or someone to come back at us

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I like Matsumoto, I am still perplexed as to why he hasnt been given a chance and Kalinski, Powe, Ross have been!
I'm guessing that the poor +/- has something to do with it. If you're looking for an AHL call-up to play a solid bottom-6 shift, you probably want him to be strong defensively.

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LA needs a d man like Scuderi. Overpayment or not,

I hope Pitts doesnt sign Gauthier or someone to come back at us





May not be the worst thing in the world, could possibly balance out the power plays a little.

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