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06-30-2009, 12:37 PM
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How funny that you let it get to you.
just like you did. Yeah that is funny

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RASK WILL BE IN BOSTON NEXT YEAR POGGE IN PROVIDENCE-WHATS THE BIG PROBLEM-WOULD YOU RATHER TRADE AWAY A FUTURE 40 GOAL SCORER!!!!!
Don't get hysterical if people tell you that your proposals are total bs!

Yeah, Rask will be in Boston but there's still no need to give away two players for free. Get some picks for them!

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06-30-2009, 12:41 PM
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You felt the need to fire back. You tell me who got riled up.
i felt the need to log in to put you were you belong, on the ignore list.

reading your drivel in threads is like listening to my 4 & 6 year old nieces argue, and no, i still cant tell if you are the older one or younger one.

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Don't get hysterical if people tell you that your proposals are total bs!

Yeah, Rask will be in Boston but there's still no need to give away two players for free. Get some picks for them!



WHO'S GETTING HYSTERICAL-IM HAVING FUN WITH THIS LOL

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06-30-2009, 12:42 PM
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i felt the need to log in to put you were you belong, on the ignore list.

reading your drivel in threads is like listening to my 4 & 6 year old nieces argue, and no, i still cant tell if you are the older one or younger one.
Alright. Miss ya.

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06-30-2009, 12:45 PM
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Why would the Leafs make that trade? NO Thanks!

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06-30-2009, 12:48 PM
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Why would the Leafs make that trade? NO Thanks!


Thats right i forgot lol the Leafs are full of 20 goal scoreres and top 4 d-man I FORGOT and isnt Pogge the top netminder outside of the NHL LOL

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06-30-2009, 12:48 PM
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Why would the Leafs make that trade? NO Thanks!
Yes they would.

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06-30-2009, 12:52 PM
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He was talking about Kessel.

Leafs take this and run away.
Leafs dont touch this ...we will not waste our salary cap space for Boston's garbage. ...regardless of how bad we are, our garbage is plenty enough for us, we dont need yours as well.

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06-30-2009, 12:53 PM
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He was talking about Kessel.

Leafs take this and run away.
I'm sorry then, my mistake. It was hard to understand what he was trying to say. I can, however, assure you that the Leafs would not take this and run. They have no need for Ference at all, and they have many players that are similar to Kobasew. The Leafs simply have no need for either of these players. They wouldn't do this deal.

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Yes they would.
Thanks for the heads up Brian.

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06-30-2009, 12:56 PM
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Leafs dont touch this ...we will not waste our salary cap space for Boston's garbage. ...regardless of how bad we are, our garbage is plenty enough for us we dont need yours.
You would be right... But Kobasew and Ference aren't garbage.

Ference is probably useless to Toronto... Kaberle, Kubina, White, Schenn, Van Ryn, and Finger are all upgrades over him.

Kobasew, on the other hand, is cheap, and is the type of player Burke likes. He can score and plays very physical and can play both wing positions. He'd probably be on the Leafs 2nd line.

There's not a doubt in my mind Toronto does this, if for nothing more than to flip these 2 at the deadline for picks. They could easily get a 2nd for Kobasew and a 3/4th for Ference.

That for a fringe AHL goalie prospect?

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Thats right i forgot lol the Leafs are full of 20 goal scoreres and top 4 d-man I FORGOT and isnt Pogge the top netminder outside of the NHL LOL
Tomas Kaberle, Pavel Kubina, Luke Schenn, Ian White, and Jeff Finger all say hello.

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Don't get hysterical if people tell you that your proposals are total bs!

Yeah, Rask will be in Boston but there's still no need to give away two players for free. Get some picks for them!


If you could have got picks for them im sure Chiarelli would have Draft Day!!!

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06-30-2009, 12:58 PM
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RASK WILL BE IN BOSTON NEXT YEAR POGGE IN PROVIDENCE-WHATS THE BIG PROBLEM-WOULD YOU RATHER TRADE AWAY A FUTURE 40 GOAL SCORER!!!!!
Isn't Rask's cap hit like 3.2M? Can Boston afford to keep him with the big club?

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06-30-2009, 12:59 PM
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Tomas Kaberle, Pavel Kubina, Luke Schenn, Ian White, and Jeff Finger all say hello.
Other then Kaberle and Schenn their all overrated and overpaid garbage IMO

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Isn't Rask's cap hit like 3.2M? Can Boston afford to keep him with the big club?
No, and yes.

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06-30-2009, 01:01 PM
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Other then Kaberle and Schenn their all overrated and overpaid garbage IMO
They can't be overrated when everybody knows they're terrible

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Other then Kaberle and Schenn their all overrated and overpaid garbage IMO
Just like Kessel will be. So we'll give you a 2nd in 2011 for him. Saves you valuable cap space.

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06-30-2009, 01:03 PM
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You would be right... But Kobasew and Ference aren't garbage.

Ference is probably useless to Toronto... Kaberle, Kubina, White, Schenn, Van Ryn, and Finger are all upgrades over him.

Kobasew, on the other hand, is cheap, and is the type of player Burke likes. He can score and plays very physical and can play both wing positions. He'd probably be on the Leafs 2nd line.

There's not a doubt in my mind Toronto does this, if for nothing more than to flip these 2 at the deadline for picks. They could easily get a 2nd for Kobasew and a 3/4th for Ference.

That for a fringe AHL goalie prospect?
I'm sorry, but the Leafs would never do this deal. It's pretty clear that management has not given up on Justin Pogge. Maybe the majority of the Leafs posters on here have referred to him as a bust, but luckily for the Maple Leafs, their opinions have little to no impact on what the coaches and general manager choose to do. The Leafs simply would not make this deal. They're looking to upgrade on forwards this summer, hopefully through free agent signings. So please tell me where Kobasew fits in. Here is there current forward lineup:

Blake, Ponikarovsky, Stajan, Grabovski, Stempniak, Hagman, Tlusty, Kulemin, Mitchell.

He would fit in on the 3rd/4th line.

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06-30-2009, 01:09 PM
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Other then Kaberle and Schenn their all overrated and overpaid garbage IMO
Ian White is one of the most underrated players in the league. You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Pavel Kubina is a solid 2-way defender who got 40 points this season. He can hardly be considered garbage.

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06-30-2009, 01:10 PM
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No, and yes.
So how much is his cap hit then? I thought it was his salary (850k) + signing bonus (2.35M)... is the cap hit only based on salary?

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06-30-2009, 01:12 PM
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Blake, Ponikarovsky, Stajan, Grabovski, Stempniak, Hagman, Tlusty, Kulemin, Mitchell.

He would fit in on the 3rd/4th line.
He's better than Stempniak, Kulemin, and MItchell at this point. I'd say he and Hagman have about the same ability.

Like I said, I think they do this even if they flip the 2 players for picks or prosects at the deadline. Even if Kobasew was in a 3rd line role he succeeds. Like this season, for example.

I don't know... You're closer to the situation tahn me, but it just seems like a no brainer to get a cheap top9 forward and fringe top4 D-man for a goalie prospect who looks to be a bust.

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Ian White is one of the most underrated players in the league. .
Got that right.

What would he cost the Bruins?

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He's better than Stempniak, Kulemin, and MItchell at this point. I'd say he and Hagman have about the same ability.

Like I said, I think they do this even if they flip the 2 players for picks or prosects at the deadline. Even if Kobasew was in a 3rd line role he succeeds. Like this season, for example.

I don't know... You're closer to the situation tahn me, but it just seems like a no brainer to get a cheap top9 forward and fringe top4 D-man for a goalie prospect who looks to be a bust.
It looks like a no brainer to you because you don't watch much hockey. You don't acquire Kobasew to replace youth on your team. It's against the philosophy of developing young talent and using their cheap cap space (when they are good) to make a run at bigger things.

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