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07-01-2009, 07:56 AM
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Rozsival package for Brad Richards?

From today's NYPost:

"To that end, it is believed the Rangers will talk to Dallas about 29-year-old Brad Richards, who won the Conn Smythe Trophy for John Tortorella's 2004 Stanley Cup winning Lightning, and who has two years at $7.8M per remaining on his contract.

The Rangers won't be able to acquire Richards, an elite pivot who also can run the power play from the point, unless they ship at least a portion of offsetting salary back to Dallas. To that end, the Blueshirts might be able to construct a package around Michal Rozsival, who has three years and $13M remaining on the contract that carries an annual $5M cap hit."

http://www.nypost.com/seven/07012009...hop_176924.htm

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07-01-2009, 08:05 AM
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Brad Richards?

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http://www.snyrangersblog.com/2009/0...brad-richards/

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i love brad richards. he is not like gomez at all. this is a guy who can actually MAKE PLAYS and make his teammates better. he can also work the point on the powerplay and is a winner. i'd be thrilled if we could somehow give up redden in a package to get him. our o nly chance is if zubov retires.

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Dallas offered Redden 500k less per year than Sather last year... maybe they'd like him now? lol

Richards would be a great addition, perhaps at the expense of Rozsival (more realistic than moving Redden) and a prospect.

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Richards is definitely a better passer than Gomez, and his contract is shorter...but you're still kinda stuck without any decent wingers!

plus you have to give up assets to get Richards, unless Dallas is cool with a straight up Rozsival/Richards swap

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i love brad richards. he is not like gomez at all. this is a guy who can actually MAKE PLAYS and make his teammates better. he can also work the point on the powerplay and is a winner. i'd be thrilled if we could somehow give up redden in a package to get him. our o nly chance is if zubov retires.
Trade away one over paid pivot to earn the right to trade for an even more over paid pivot--this for a team that has too many damn centers already.

Yup, sounds like the rangers

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I like Richards and I like the game he plays. He seems like he would fit in well with our style of play.

That being said, 2 years at 7.8 is asking a lot. I'd rather sign Sundin for 1 year and call it a day. That way we get a decent center for a year and free up the space next summer for Kovalchuk.

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Richards won MVP playing under Torts....

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Trade away one over paid pivot to earn the right to trade for an even more over paid pivot--this for a team that has too many damn centers already.

Yup, sounds like the rangers
The team doesn't have too many centers anymore...they definitely lack a #1 center, though it's arguable whether Richards is one of those or just another, slightly better, slightly more expensive, Gomez.

The upside to Richards over Gomez is that his contract is a LOT shorter, and I do believe he's a better player and better passer. Just not psyched because it still means he has no scorers to pass the puck to

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I like Richards and I like the game he plays. He seems like he would fit in well with our style of play.

That being said, 2 years at 7.8 is asking a lot. I'd rather sign Sundin for 1 year and call it a day. That way we get a decent center for a year and free up the space next summer for Kovalchuk.
But if you can send rosival or redden the other way in exchange for richards why wouldn't you make that trade?

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If we can get a deal involving Redden for Richards it would be amazing. Maybe it could happen. Remember we did help them out with the Avery situation. Maybe they can repay us.

and would people stop about us gettin Kovy next year. he is not going to be a FA. Atlanta acutally has a very bright future now with the last two drafts, and if he does get traded the team he is traded to will probably resign him.

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Why would Dallas do this?

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Why would Dallas do this?
Why would montreal take gomez in that horrible deal? Getting richards cant be as bad of a deal for dallas as the gomez deal was for montreal

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Why would Dallas do this?
Why would Montreal trade Higgins and their best defensive prospect for Gomez?
You never know what other GMs are thinking.

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Trade Redden and a pick/prospect for Richards (2 years left at 7.8 is ALOT better then Gomez at 5 years left at 7.3 / Not to mention getting rid of Reddens $6.5 for 5 more years). Sign Hossa and Gaborik to longer term deals at lower cap hits (Contracts front loaded).

Hossa - Richards - Gaborik (Drools lol)
Higgins - Dubinsky - Zherdev
Avery - Drury - Cally
Knuble - Anisimov - Korpido

Roll 4 lines consistantly. Can get production from all 4 lines.

I didn't run numbers because i'm too lazy, so it probably would not work out, but would be a nice lineup!

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I can't see Redden going the other way. Dallas is not that stupid

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Only way this happens is if Dubinsky is moved. Center for Center + Rozsival and who knows what else.

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Why would Montreal trade Higgins and their best defensive prospect for Gomez?
You never know what other GMs are thinking.
haha i love how the gomez trade was like eating lsd. now everything is possible and no doors are shut. we're seeing the world through the eyes of a newborn now.

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for redden or drury: hell yeah!
for anybody else: no thanks. i hope we didn't just unload gomez just to get another overpaid center (although richards contranct surely isn't as bad)
we need scoring wingers!

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If Zubov has said he's retiring, maybe there's a shot. However, I have to think that Richards is much more valuable to the Stars than Rozsival. I really don't think Nieuwendyk is going to step in and make his first big deal one revolving around Redden. He's a bit smarter than Hull.

Lev hit it on the head though, he's another overpaid playmaking center that will have nobody to pass to.

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I dont want anything to do with richards unless redden is going the other way. I would be pretty pissed off if we just unloaded gomez to get richards

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Only way this happens is if Dubinsky is moved. Center for Center + Rozsival and who knows what else.
I'm not so sure... I think Dallas is pretty high on Ribeiro and Ott..

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Trade away one over paid pivot to earn the right to trade for an even more over paid pivot--this for a team that has too many damn centers already.

Yup, sounds like the rangers
Not now that Gomez is gone. We have Dubinsky, and Drury would have to go back to center full time. Then we'd have to hope Anisimov is ready, and hope Boyle puts it together. The other option is moving Korpikoski to center full time.

I would consider moving Rozsival for Richards. The contract sucks, but we'd be gaining relief three years earlier and dealing from a strength to fill a potential weakness. I don't know if he's ideal, but I wouldn't hate the trade either.

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haha i love how the gomez trade was like eating lsd. now everything is possible and no doors are shut. we're seeing the world through the eyes of a newborn now.


Oh yeah!

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Trade Redden and a pick/prospect for Richards (2 years left at 7.8 is ALOT better then Gomez at 5 years left at 7.3 / Not to mention getting rid of Reddens $6.5 for 5 more years). Sign Hossa and Gaborik to longer term deals at lower cap hits (Contracts front loaded).

Hossa - Richards - Gaborik (Drools lol)
Higgins - Dubinsky - Zherdev
Avery - Drury - Cally
Knuble - Anisimov - Korpido

Roll 4 lines consistantly. Can get production from all 4 lines.

I didn't run numbers because i'm too lazy, so it probably would not work out, but would be a nice lineup!
yeah, let's keep signing free agents to huge long term deals, NOT!! Doesn't matter if a contract is front loaded or not, it's the average compensation of the contract that counts against the cap in a given year.

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