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03-26-2004, 07:28 PM
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If Katsitsyn could be half as good as.........

If Andrei Katsitsyn could be half as good as Zherdev, i'd be very happy because Nikolai Zherdev is a sick sick player. He's simply awesome. No doubt, he would have won the Calder if he started the season in Columbus.

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If Andrei Katsitsyn could be half as good as Zherdev, i'd be very happy because Nikolai Zherdev is a sick sick player. He's simply awesome. No doubt, he would have won the Calder if he started the season in Columbus.
Actually no he wouldnt have won the Calder.There is a lot of scouts who said that Kastistyn was the guy with the best offensive upside.I just can't wait to see him play.

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If Andrei Katsitsyn could be half as good as Zherdev, i'd be very happy because Nikolai Zherdev is a sick sick player. He's simply awesome. No doubt, he would have won the Calder if he started the season in Columbus.

Sadly I haven't watched much of Zherdev in Columbus, but he didn't look very good in either of the games I saw for CSKA. Moyzakin outplayed both Zherdev and Kastsitsyn, as he was the best player in both games. He's a few years older though, but showed some major skills. On the small side though.

Zherdev seems to have a better all round game, as Kastsitsyn reminds me of a young Ribeiro, who just looked like a deer caught in headlights whenever he was playing in his own end. Both give the effort but just do not seem to understand that side of the game. Ribeiro has come a long way, so there's hope for Kastsitsyn.

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If Andrei Katsitsyn could be half as good as Zherdev, i'd be very happy because Nikolai Zherdev is a sick sick player. He's simply awesome. No doubt, he would have won the Calder if he started the season in Columbus.
I have to agree with you, Zherdev is just awesome. I would love to have him as a HAB.

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Sadly I haven't watched much of Zherdev in Columbus, but he didn't look very good in either of the games I saw for CSKA. Moyzakin outplayed both Zherdev and Kastsitsyn, as he was the best player in both games. He's a few years older though, but showed some major skills. On the small side though.

Zherdev seems to have a better all round game, as Kastsitsyn reminds me of a young Ribeiro, who just looked like a deer caught in headlights whenever he was playing in his own end. Both give the effort but just do not seem to understand that side of the game. Ribeiro has come a long way, so there's hope for Kastsitsyn.
In your opinion, what kind of player Kast can become. 20 goals scorer? 30 goals scorer? In how many year do you think he will get a shot with the Habs?

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In your opinion, what kind of player Kast can become. 20 goals scorer? 30 goals scorer? In how many year do you think he will get a shot with the Habs?

wow tough to say. His upside is off the charts. I would say that his upside is way up, 40+ goals in say 4-5 years. Yes he's that good, imo. But maybe I'm wrong and he turns into a bust, but the kid is all offense. He jumps on the puck and either makes very good passes, or fires a heavy shot on net, or can make some good moves (although I was most impressed with his passing, and his shot)

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Actually if he wasn't injured and had started the year in chicago Tuomo Ruutu would easily be the calder winner. He has really been heating up in 04, he has been playing at a point per game level. Something like 32 points in 30 games, if anyone knows the real stats, I would be grateful.

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Actually if he wasn't injured and had started the year in chicago Tuomo Ruutu would easily be the calder winner. He has really been heating up in 04, he has been playing at a point per game level. Something like 32 points in 30 games, if anyone knows the real stats, I would be grateful.
Ruutu did start the year in Chicago. He has played a full season. But he is a -30 or so for the year. Don't think he would be a Calder candidate.

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Ruutu has played 76 games. He has 39 pts, 18 goals and 21 pass

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Actually if he wasn't injured and had started the year in chicago Tuomo Ruutu would easily be the calder winner. He has really been heating up in 04, he has been playing at a point per game level. Something like 32 points in 30 games, if anyone knows the real stats, I would be grateful.
Tuomo Ruutu C 76 18 21 39 .....more than 32 games

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Tuomo Ruutu C 76 18 21 39 .....more than 32 games
He ment in the last 32 games he's got 30 pts (or something close to that).

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If Andrei Katsitsyn could be half as good as Zherdev, i'd be very happy because Nikolai Zherdev is a sick sick player. He's simply awesome. No doubt, he would have won the Calder if he started the season in Columbus.
i dont think so ive seen a fair bit of columbus games this year i dont think zherdev would have won the calder, he has amazing playmaking vision and great offencive sense but he also makes a tonne of mistakes and tries to get WAY too pretty, he's very one dimensional his finish is not good and he often goes for passing plays in scoring oppertunities.
he would not have won the calder this year, but dont get me wrong he is a special player with above avarage skills. watching him play he's alote like hemsky; only goes for passes, hemsky still hasnt grown out of this if zherdev doesnt expand his game he'll develope very slowly.

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Kast & Zherdev were considered the best offensive players in their draft... Kast should've gone in the top 5 (from what i've read), but his heath played a big factor

frankly, if doctor mulder says he's good... the kid is fine... he's one of the best doc's in sport

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If Andrei Katsitsyn could be half as good as Zherdev, i'd be very happy because Nikolai Zherdev is a sick sick player. He's simply awesome. No doubt, he would have won the Calder if he started the season in Columbus.
Talk about not going by the facts.....

As good as Zherdev is, he would of not won the calder this year!

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Ruutu did start the year in Chicago. He has played a full season. But he is a -30 or so for the year. Don't think he would be a Calder candidate.
Yeah but he was injured and this affected his play greatly. If he played the whole year like he is playing now(healthy), he would definitely be one of the top candidates.

He has 13G 16A for 29pts in the last 33 games.


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Yeah but he was injured and this affected his play greatly. If he played the whole year like he is playing now(healthy), he would definitely be one of the top candidates.

He has 13G 16A for 29pts in the last 33 games.
ah crap we should have drafted ruttu over komisarek freaking savard should have picked talent!! there are other hard hitting defencemen in the league! its rare to find talent like ruttu :mad:

oh well komi bettter turn into a hatcher or something like that... :p

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I can't wait for Andrei Kostsitsyn to play for the Montreal Canadiens. I think he could become a more "work ethic" then guys ike Kovalev,Pavel Bure.. etc.

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Regardez j'ai trouvé un article sur Sport Illustrated qui donne des mention d'honneur dans chaque aspect du jeu des prospects du dernier draft.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/hoc...ckeens_awards/
je ne sais pas si cela a déja été posté mais bon je prend une chance.L'article dit que Kostistyn a la meilleur détente (wrist shot) de tous les joueurs disponible,il a apparement le wrist shot le plus précis aussi!

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Ouais, j'ai entendu que son wrist shot etait comme celui de Joe Sakic.

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Ouais, j'ai entendu que son wrist shot etait comme celui de Joe Sakic.

wow that is amazing if his wrist shot is like sakic!

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Best release: Andrei Kostitsyn

Capable of scoring with just a flick of the wrist, Kostitsyn can fire a one-timer while barely moving his hands. Quickest and most accurate shot in the draft.

Best vision: Corey Locke

Resurrected Matt Foy's career with his instinctive feeds and heads-up plays. Locke has the uncanny ability to anticipate the offensive play before it happens and he rarely overhandles the puck.

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Verra j'ai hate de voir de quoi il a l'air!J'aurais aimé sa qu'il joue pour medicine hat cette saison.Au moin on aurait pu avoir une bonne idée de la valeur de ses statistiques.C'est difficile d'évalué un joueur quand il joue dans des ligues de tiers deux.

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Best release: Andrei Kostitsyn

Capable of scoring with just a flick of the wrist, Kostitsyn can fire a one-timer while barely moving his hands. Quickest and most accurate shot in the draft.

Best vision: Corey Locke

Resurrected Matt Foy's career with his instinctive feeds and heads-up plays. Locke has the uncanny ability to anticipate the offensive play before it happens and he rarely overhandles the puck.
Just curious where you got this from

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Just curious where you got this from
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ho...mckeens_awards/

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Was Kovalchuk putting better numbers than Katsitsyn in Russia? Are they comparable rookies (I mean, before being drafted) ?

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