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03-27-2004, 01:40 PM
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guys why did we trade recchi again?

this guy has amazing stats and he would have been good with koviu right now!

y did we trade him?

and what did we get for him???

another stupid trade houle!!!! :mad:

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I think he asked to be traded.

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No. He was going to be an unrestricted free agent. Houle didnt have the money to resign Recchi. That's not his fault. He got us Zubrus, who was a pretty promising and talented young player. Also, I think Recchi wanted to be closer to home and Philadelphia was a good chocie for him to go back to. Recchi was my favorite player for a long time. I wish we kept him too.

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Recchi and Vigneault couldn't stand each other...

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Plus Zubrus afterwards got us (along with Linden) Zednik, Bulis and Perez..and they are playing well with Koivu, so the trade didn't turn out so bad afterall.

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Recchi and Vigneault couldn't stand each other...
I don't remember that. Vigneault put him on the first line with Koivu as far as I recall.

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We miss a good veteran like Recchi...

Imagine our 2 first lines...

Zednik-Koivu-Recchi
Kovalev-Ribeiro-Ryder

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We miss a good veteran like Recchi...
Yeah, tell me about it. It ruined my day when I heard that Philadelphia signed him to a 5 year contract with a no trade clause because I thought that thing would never end. He wouldn't have come back but at least if he got a 2 year deal or something, there was still hope.

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We miss a good veteran like Recchi...

Imagine our 2 first lines...

Zednik-Koivu-Recchi
Kovalev-Ribeiro-Ryder
We wouldn't have Zednik : Recchi went to PHI for Zubrus who then went to Washington for Zednik.

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Houle offer him 5 Millions/ year for 4 years.

He wants 5 years..

Recchi really loves the city, that's a shame we trade him

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Houle offer him 5 Millions/ year for 4 years.
No, I dont think so. I recall Houle saying, "We couldn't get close to a deal". It could be true, Recchi was earning 4.5 million with us. Maybe Houle offered him 5 million but I dont think so. Any chance you still have a source?

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No, I dont think so. I recall Houle saying, "We couldn't get close to a deal". It could be true, Recchi was earning 4.5 million with us. Maybe Houle offered him 5 million but I dont think so. Any chance you still have a source?

No, but I remember clearly that they agreed on the money, they didn't agree on length.

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I'll take zednik 27 years old 2m$/year
over Recchi 36 years old 5m$/year

btw IMO the Recchi trade is easily the best Houle trade !!!

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I'll take zednik 27 years old 2m$/year
over Recchi 36 years old 5m$/year

btw IMO the Recchi trade is easily the best Houle trade !!!
Getting Zubrus is the best move Houle ever did? Goes to show you the quality of this GM!

Personaly, I found the Malakhov for Souray and company deal quite advantageous. Especialy since the Devils only kept Malkhov for the spring (although they did win a cup). I couldn't stand that Malakhov. So big, so strong, so skilled... yet so inconsistent, so little effort, so non-challant, totaly undedicated to team success...

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We wouldn't have Zednik : Recchi went to PHI for Zubrus who then went to Washington for Zednik.
Yeah, i know that, but we could have trade another player to get Zednik....you know what i'm sayin'

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No. He was going to be an unrestricted free agent. Houle didnt have the money to resign Recchi. That's not his fault. He got us Zubrus, who was a pretty promising and talented young player. Also, I think Recchi wanted to be closer to home and Philadelphia was a good chocie for him to go back to. Recchi was my favorite player for a long time. I wish we kept him too.
Closer to home??
Recchi is a BC guy...... Unless he married a girl from Pennsylvania in his Pittsburgh days or his first shift with the Flyers, I can't see why he would be closer to home in Philadelphia.......

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Getting Zubrus is the best move Houle ever did? Goes to show you the quality of this GM!

Personaly, I found the Malakhov for Souray and company deal quite advantageous. Especialy since the Devils only kept Malkhov for the spring (although they did win a cup). I couldn't stand that Malakhov. So big, so strong, so skilled... yet so inconsistent, so little effort, so non-challant, totaly undedicated to team success...
Houle's best move was the Hackett trade. Hacket becomes our number one goalie and a great leader. Weinrich becomes our number one defensemen logging nearly 30 minutes a game. Thibault wasn't and probably won't ever be a true number one goalie while Dave Manson is not NHL-calibre (too slow).

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Closer to home??
Recchi is a BC guy...... Unless he married a girl from Pennsylvania in his Pittsburgh days or his first shift with the Flyers, I can't see why he would be closer to home in Philadelphia.......
I think its marriage.

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We wouldn't have Zednik : Recchi went to PHI for Zubrus who then went to Washington for Zednik.

Zubrus went to Washington for Bulis .
Linden for Zednik

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Zubrus went to Washington for Bulis .
Linden for Zednik
They were part of the same deal...

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No, but I remember clearly that they agreed on the money, they didn't agree on length.
Length of contract and quality of the existing team were the issues. Recchi wanted to play for a team that had a chance at the Cup and Philly was his preferred choice. It was expected that he would resign with Philly which is why Houle got Zubrus and two 2nds for him.

Edit: Dainius Zubrus, a 2nd round selection (Matt Carkner) in 1999 and a 6th round selection (previously acquired - Scott Selig) in 2000. My mistake.


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Recchi wanted to be traded...

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They were part of the same deal...

I know they were but it was said all throughout the trade talks that Linden was key to getting Zednik....Zubrus was a throw in for Bulis

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As I remember it, this is how it went down.

Recchi got $4.25M in arbitration for 1 year his last year. It was obvious he was going to get even more than that the year after and he was a UFA. Houle traded Recchi since he was going to walk because Montreal wouldn't be able to afford his salary.

To Montreal: Dainius Zubrus
To Philadelphia: Mark Recchi

Houle traded 1999 1st round pick (10th overall) to the New York Islanders for Trevor Linden. The pick turned out to be Branislav Mezei.

AS then did this trade at the deadline of the 2000-2001 season.

To Washington: Trevor Linden, Dainius Zubrus and a 2nd rounder (later traded to Tampa and turned into Andreas Holmqvist)
To Montreal: Richard Zednik, Jan Bulis and Wash 1st (25th overall, turned into Alexander Perezhogin)

The Recchi deal was fair. Zubrus was highly sought after by the Caps, which is why they were willing to pay so much. Keep in mind, at that time, Zednik was in his 4th full NHL season and had his highest point season being 35 the year before. Bulis was only in his first FULL season at that time as well.

The Caps were looking at making a playoff run while Montreal was rebuilding. They wanted Linden to provide experience and leadership and they also added another talented forward in Zubrus. So at the time, it didn't look like that bad a trade for Washington.

For those interested, Linden was traded to Vancouver that next season for Vancouver's 1st rounder in the 2002 draft which ended up 17 overall. Caps selected Boyd Gordon.

I hope that clears everything up...

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Closer to home??
Recchi is a BC guy...... Unless he married a girl from Pennsylvania in his Pittsburgh days or his first shift with the Flyers, I can't see why he would be closer to home in Philadelphia.......
Close. He married a girl from Pennsylvania in his Philly days (after he was with Pgh, before Mtl)...

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