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Chicago after today

View Poll Results: Is Chicago better, worse, or about the same?
Better 68 60.71%
Worse 8 7.14%
About the same 36 32.14%
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07-01-2009, 09:13 PM
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Chicago after today

Do you see them as better, worse, or about the same? I see them as about the same. I see Hossa as better than Havlat, but I see Huet worse than Khabibulin by a larger magnitude. The addition of John Madden makes it about even in my opinion.

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07-01-2009, 09:17 PM
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Slightly better, the loss of Havlat is big though.

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07-01-2009, 09:25 PM
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A lot of it comes down to goaltending. Outside of '08 and '98 (yeah I know Osgood won the Cup those years) there isnt a year in recent memory where a goaltender was average and not among the elite members during a Cup run. Fleury was stellar this year and while Chicago has a young core and will only get better the truth is someone has to make that key save with the game tied with a minute to go in the third period. Khabby WAS a guy for that, but now.............

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07-01-2009, 09:38 PM
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Cristobal Huet...

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07-01-2009, 09:46 PM
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Cristobal Huet...
My point exactly he won't win you a Cup anymore than what Ray Emery will do in Philly

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07-02-2009, 12:34 AM
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My point exactly he won't win you a Cup anymore than what Ray Emery will do in Philly
Why do you hate us

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07-02-2009, 01:11 AM
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I know Bulin wasn't a longterm answer but there is nothing in goal and not any big prospect (Crawford is decent) that can step in.

I do think Hossa is much better than Havlat, but theyll have one of the worst goaltending duos in hockey this year

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07-02-2009, 07:58 AM
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Huet was bad this year but it is hard for a goalie to come in every 3rd or 4th game and be expected to play to the best of their ability. What people seem to forget is that before this year Huet was (statistically speaking) one of the best goaltenders in the league since the lockout. I think playing consistent games will help Huet get settled and having got over the infamous 1st year of a big money deal he will rebound. People also seem to forget that Khabibulin wasn't exactly spectacular in the playoffs this year and has only had 1 good year since the lockout and it just happened to be his contract year.

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07-02-2009, 08:28 AM
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My point exactly he won't win you a Cup anymore than what Ray Emery will do in Philly
No but solid defense for both Philly and Chicago could win a Cup. Both team's already have the offensive threat, it comes down to how well the defense plays and works with the goalie for both teams.

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07-02-2009, 01:14 PM
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Huet was bad this year but it is hard for a goalie to come in every 3rd or 4th game and be expected to play to the best of their ability. What people seem to forget is that before this year Huet was (statistically speaking) one of the best goaltenders in the league since the lockout. I think playing consistent games will help Huet get settled and having got over the infamous 1st year of a big money deal he will rebound. People also seem to forget that Khabibulin wasn't exactly spectacular in the playoffs this year and has only had 1 good year since the lockout and it just happened to be his contract year.
They don't forget, they just ignore it. There are people out there that are just embittered at this time of year. They'll find any reason, no matter how small, and suggest that Chicago is screwed.

Regarding the subject of Huet, I would have preferred to dealt him and bring Khabby back, but it is what it is. Huet is still a good goalie and right now this team is better defensively than it was last year. Also, like you said, Huet should be better when he gets the majority of starts and can settle into the #1 role without having to constantly look over his shoulder for another high-paid #1 goalie.

We know we'll be a good team again, and the naysayers can say whatever the hell they want in the meantime.

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07-02-2009, 01:19 PM
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They're better, for sure.

Until next offseason...

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07-02-2009, 01:21 PM
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The Blackhawks are fine, the main problem is how the hell are they going to deal with the cap next season...

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07-02-2009, 02:48 PM
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They're better, for sure.

Until next offseason...
This.

They'll have to move Campbell and Huet if they want to keep their young guns.

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07-02-2009, 02:55 PM
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We'll be better and it won't really have a lot to do with whether Khabibulin/Havlat contra Huet/Hossa is a wash or not. The real improvement will come from Toews, Kane, Bolland and Seabrook et al as they put the newfound experience to use.


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07-02-2009, 03:24 PM
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I have them as about the same. They should have an even more interesting off season next year.

The Central will be fun in 10.

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07-02-2009, 05:14 PM
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I voted worse merely due to the fact that Huet is now their starting goalie, and replacing Havlat with Hossa just doesn't offset that for me.

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07-02-2009, 05:31 PM
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Same, if not slightly worse.

Havlat (when healthy) > Hossa
Pahlsson = Madden
Bulin ? Huet

To the people saying they are better... they came in 4th place last season. Do you really expect them to improve on that?

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07-02-2009, 10:16 PM
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Please don't underestimate Huet guys...

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They will make the playoffs but need a Luongo trade at the deadline.

Don't see that happening

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07-02-2009, 10:29 PM
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We'll be better and it won't really have a lot to do with whether Khabibulin/Havlat contra Huet/Hossa is a wash or not. The real improvement will come from Toews, Kane, Bolland and Seabrook et al as they put the newfound experience to use.
This. You can argue all you want about whether Hossa/Madden/Huet is better than Khaby/Havlat/Pahlsson, but the fact is that this was theyoungest team in the league last year. The mere fact that these young kids have another year under their belt means the team, as a whole, will be better.

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07-03-2009, 02:36 AM
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They're better for now. The real question will be in a year from now when they gotta deal with the young guys, but I think they are better at this point.

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07-03-2009, 03:41 AM
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Better on paper, have to see how it shakes out on the ice though. Ladd-Bolland-Havlat had great chemistry and the team typically seemed to play better in front of Khabibulin.

I have high hopes though!

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07-03-2009, 01:35 PM
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Huet was bad this year but it is hard for a goalie to come in every 3rd or 4th game and be expected to play to the best of their ability. What people seem to forget is that before this year Huet was (statistically speaking) one of the best goaltenders in the league since the lockout. I think playing consistent games will help Huet get settled and having got over the infamous 1st year of a big money deal he will rebound. People also seem to forget that Khabibulin wasn't exactly spectacular in the playoffs this year and has only had 1 good year since the lockout and it just happened to be his contract year.
Yep, Huet just had his WORST season in a while but still was 20-15 with a 909 SV %, it's not that bad. Bulin was 20-8-7 with 919%, his BEST season in a while.

Lot of people only work with the "what have you done lately" mentality, but they should know that Huet was over .920% overall in the 3 seasons before the last one, and frankly, not a lot of goalies have done that.

Huet should be paid less (maybe 4M$) but that has nothing to do with him being good or not.

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07-03-2009, 08:18 PM
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I see them as about the same. The addition of John Madden is an excellent acquisition but I see Hossa as a slight downgrade to Havlat. They're both solid two way players. I think Havlat is a little more explosive offensively by himself. I also think Havlat and Keith were the MVP's of the team last season. Havlat played huge for them in both the season and playoffs and I think he played better than both JT and Kane. I was honestly shocked Chicago didn't go back after him after having such a quality year.

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i think the additions of madden and hossa offsets the loss of bulin just enuff to make them better

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