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07-03-2009, 12:57 PM
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Has anyone reported on a number Koivu is looking for?

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Bollocks. Fedotenko back to the Pens.

http://penguins.nhl.com/team/app/?se...ticleid=433422

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Only report I read on Koivu contract specifics was that a team (other than the Wild) had offered him a four-year deal.

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07-03-2009, 01:53 PM
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The only thing I heard was that Koivu wanted 3 or 4 years and that the Wild and Ducks are still in the running.

And I don't know how reliable RDS is but they had Kovalev linked to 3 teams: LA, Caps, and a KHL team. I think LA has been open about wanting him, but I think the Caps just has to be a guess. I mean of the like 6 teams that were interested in Knuble, not one of them was the Caps. I definitely like that the whole organization can keep their mouth shut, just makes it harder on us as fans to have any idea where we are going. But I don't mind that trade-off.

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07-03-2009, 01:55 PM
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Bollocks. Fedotenko back to the Pens.

http://penguins.nhl.com/team/app/?se...ticleid=433422
Well if Fedotenko is back with them, then I really doubt Kovalev is going there. And that may be for the best because at the All-Star game (yes I know, not a lot of weight with that game) it seemed like Malkin and Kovalev looked good together.

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07-03-2009, 02:39 PM
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Well if Fedotenko is back with them, then I really doubt Kovalev is going there. And that may be for the best because at the All-Star game (yes I know, not a lot of weight with that game) it seemed like Malkin and Kovalev looked good together.
He wasn't going there to begin with, really. That Staal contract made sure of that.

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07-03-2009, 02:51 PM
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Tarik caught up with Boudreau and talked with him.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/cap...uble.html#more

What I found interesting...

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On another subject, I asked Boudreau whether he felt Brooks Laich could fill the role of second-line center. To my surprise, he sidestepped the issue.

"I think we have a good team, even if there are no more moves," Boudreau said. "I don't know if Brooks would be the second-line center, but we've got July and August before we have to finalize it. I'm not worried about it."

So if not Brooks, then who?

"I don't know yet," he said. "I can move people around a lot. But we've got two months to fill that position. If we find somebody [outside of the Caps] who is the right fit, great. If not, we'll go with what we have."

Sounds to me Boudreau is still hopeful that GM George McPhee will find a way to add another center, perhaps through a trade.
It's pretty funny, and sad, that Nylander isn't even mentioned any more. Tarik, Boudreau and Mcphee never mention Nylander, ever.

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07-03-2009, 02:51 PM
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He wasn't going there to begin with, really. That Staal contract made sure of that.
Well you would think there's no way he would be able to come here with our cap situation, but there is still a slight thought that he could (which I took as him coming on the cheap). I figured he has 3 motives: go to a place like LA for the most money in the NHL, go to the KHL for the most money, or sign with a contending team on the cheap that will get media attention and he can play well for with the chance of making the Olympic team.

I don't know the whole Russian-Kovalev story, but if he wants to play on the Olympic team he would have a better chance if he had a great start to the season and showed some chemistry with another Russian player who would be on the team. Kind of like how Feds got another shot on the WC team.

*On the Nylander issue: maybe the organization is hoping that Nylander actually wants to play the game of hockey and they are making it very obvious that he won't be playing for the Caps and that no one will take his contract. So he better start re-thinking those KHL contracts.

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07-03-2009, 03:00 PM
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man i'm really surprised Beauchemin is still out there.

he must be mulling over several offers.

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07-03-2009, 03:30 PM
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man i'm really surprised Beauchemin is still out there.

he must be mulling over several offers.
The offers he got must not have been quite what he and his agent were expecting. So now he's had to take a step back and reevaluate the offers he got and maybe even wait to see if a team makes a trade to free up some salary to give him the big deal he wanted. I think whoever ends up getting him will get a bargain and end up getting him for a Cap hit under 5 million.

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07-03-2009, 03:50 PM
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The offers he got must not have been quite what he and his agent were expecting. So now he's had to take a step back and reevaluate the offers he got and maybe even wait to see if a team makes a trade to free up some salary to give him the big deal he wanted. I think whoever ends up getting him will get a bargain and end up getting him for a Cap hit under 5 million.
Agree 100%.

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Agree 100%.
Remind me again what we would have to do to be a contending offer?

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Remind me again what we would have to do to be a contending offer?
Seeya to Nyles or Theo somehow. And probably goodbye to Mo as well. None of that would bother me. Just seems pretty impossible.

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Maybe I'm just going crazy here, but I think that there are a few teams that could actually benefit from Theodore. Like, say, St. Louis. Will it happen? No, probably not. But I seriously think that the Blues could make a trade for him without a whole lot of worry. I mean, he's got one year on a manageable contract, he's playing a contract year, and was statistically one of the best second half goaltenders in the league.

I'm not saying he's amazing, but I really believe he'd have something to offer to a team like that, with no real clear cut number 1. He fills a hole and makes Mason work to keep him number 1 role, where St. Louis can play the hot hand, and then he can either be signed again, or he can be dropped in Free Agency, since I know St. Louis has a goalie prospect they're high on.

Is there something in my water, or am I actually making any sense?

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07-03-2009, 04:37 PM
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Maybe I'm just going crazy here, but I think that there are a few teams that could actually benefit from Theodore. Like, say, St. Louis. Will it happen? No, probably not. But I seriously think that the Blues could make a trade for him without a whole lot of worry. I mean, he's got one year on a manageable contract, he's playing a contract year, and was statistically one of the best second half goaltenders in the league.

I'm not saying he's amazing, but I really believe he'd have something to offer to a team like that, with no real clear cut number 1. He fills a hole and makes Mason work to keep him number 1 role, where St. Louis can play the hot hand, and then he can either be signed again, or he can be dropped in Free Agency, since I know St. Louis has a goalie prospect they're high on.

Is there something in my water, or am I actually making any sense?
As you said, St. Louis has Mason.

They also signed Ty Conklin.

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07-03-2009, 04:44 PM
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Alexandre Giroux

This guy scored a ton for Hershey in the A. The Rangers need a vet for the 4th line.

What do you guys think of Alexandre for a 4th line guy, who can be a Power Play Specialist?

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yep, STL has no need for Theo.

basically every team that needed a goalie went out and signed one.

Theo will stay until the deadline at the very least.

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He can't play a checking role, and he has real trouble finishing at the NHL level. He does not have the hands for it at all.

Some team may take a chance on him, though.

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As you said, St. Louis has Mason.

They also signed Ty Conklin.
Damn, I forgot about him. Well, there goes my actual point, but at least I wasn't totally off my nut. St. Louis needed a second goaltender. Would have been better (for us and maybe them) if they were both somewhat no. 1 quality, but whatever. Are there any other teams like that? Hell, with DiPietro in question every other week, I could see trying to move him to NYI.

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07-03-2009, 04:56 PM
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Damn, I forgot about him. Well, there goes my actual point, but at least I wasn't totally off my nut. St. Louis needed a second goaltender. Would have been better (for us and maybe them) if they were both somewhat no. 1 quality, but whatever. Are there any other teams like that? Hell, with DiPietro in question every other week, I could see trying to move him to NYI.
NYI signed Roloson. Maybe third time is a charm for you.

The only team I could see is maybe Toronto if they lose out on Gutavasson (sp?). I believe they have Toskala and gave a QO to Pogge, but maybe if they had a lot of cap room they could take Theo. Maybe Tampa, as well. But I think they have a self-imposed cap ceiling.


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Damn, I forgot about him. Well, there goes my actual point, but at least I wasn't totally off my nut. St. Louis needed a second goaltender. Would have been better (for us and maybe them) if they were both somewhat no. 1 quality, but whatever. Are there any other teams like that? Hell, with DiPietro in question every other week, I could see trying to move him to NYI.
Isles got Roloson... where were you on July 1st?

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07-03-2009, 05:08 PM
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How did I manage to miss BOTH of those?

I've been reading this damn FA tracker for two days straight, and it's failed me.

Anyhow, I mentioned this once earlier, but I remember SJ being interested in Gustavsson as well, to the point where local media was suggesting that they trade Nabokov for Heatley to make room. I remember thinking Theodore could go there, to either spot fill until Gustavsson comes, or play as an insurance goaltender. They most certainly haven't signed a goalie yet, so I'm not pushing full ******.

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The teams without "settled" backup situations right now, by my count:

Dallas
San Jose
Toronto

(all three of the above are still in the Gus sweepstakes though)

Pitt
Tampa


and I guess that's it? None of them need a starter.

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Something I found on Ted's blog.

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In our war room under “Want to Sign”, Knuble is the first name on a list of five players so I guess our staff prepared well. He wanted to play here and “we got our man” so praise be and a job well done.
http://www.tedstake.com/2009/07/02/n...nuble-signing/

I wonder who the other 4 on the list are? And if we are still going after them. Or Ted could be talking out of his *** again.

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IMO Knuble addresses the teams biggest single need....not only a guy that will go to the net (and can get it done once there) but strong on the boards. They also needed a guy that can take the hit while playing the puck out of his own zone, and not trying to skate it out/make a move every time. Always struck me as a very good complimentary player

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