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07-04-2009, 10:23 PM
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ok, since none of these other proposals seem to have any hope of working considering others' repsonses to them, I figured I will make an attempt at an offer that might be a different story...

To Chicago: Nabokov (5.375)


To San Jose: Toskala (4.0)
Kaberle (4.25)
3rd round pick (from CHI)

To Toronto: Huet (5.625)
Ehroff (3.1)
Brouwer (RFA - prob about 1.5)
As a Hawks fan, where do I sign?

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07-04-2009, 10:24 PM
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It's that bad....Toronto get the wrost player in all 3 situations (Kabs > Campbell, White > Cheechoo, Tosk > Huet), AND cripples their cap by $6.6 MILLION?? All for the change to upgrade from a 3rd rd pick to Beach (which might not even be an upgrade).
LOL. Campbell is better than Kaberle, Huet is MUCH better than Toskala, and... do you really think White is more valuable than Cheechoo?

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07-04-2009, 10:39 PM
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ok, since none of these other proposals seem to have any hope of working considering others' repsonses to them, I figured I will make an attempt at an offer that might be a different story...

To Chicago: Nabokov (5.375)


To San Jose: Toskala (4.0)
Kaberle (4.25)
3rd round pick (from CHI)

To Toronto: Huet (5.625)
Ehroff (3.1)
Brouwer (RFA - prob about 1.5)
There is no way in H E double hockey sticks that Toskala comes back to San Jose - unless Doug Wilson wants his office at The Tank to be thrashed.

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07-04-2009, 10:41 PM
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There is no way in H E double hockey sticks that Toskala comes back to San Jose - unless Doug Wilson wants his office at The Tank to be thrashed.
would you guys rather have Huet than Toskala? if so I'll try to come up with something along those lines

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07-04-2009, 10:41 PM
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LOL. Campbell is better than Kaberle, Huet is MUCH better than Toskala, and... do you really think White is more valuable than Cheechoo?
On what planet is a 5.625M long-term #1b goalie of ANY value to a REBUILDING team? Or a 3M third-liner that's on the decline better than a sub-1M that can play D or F? Or trading a #1 Dman on a reasonable short-term contract for #1 D on a bloated crippling contract.

In all 3 cases, in terms of value to the Leafs, who i stress again are a REBUILDING team (b/c HFBoards just doesn't seem to get it), they would be better off keeping their player in all 3 scenaros.

Chicago fans, i'm sorry your GM screwed up and got you in cap heck with bad contracts, but you are not taking them off your hands just to be good guys That's not Burkie's M.O.

EDIT: And also, the trade in question would put Toronto at a cap hit of ~$56M without a backup G or a 13th F, another testament to the absurdity of it.


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07-04-2009, 10:52 PM
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Andrew Rothstein, founder of puck prospectus posted the following on his twitter:

To San Jose:

P.Kane
Huet
Chicago's 1st Round Pick

To Chicago:

Marleau
Kaberle
Nabakov

To Toronto:

Versteeg
Campbell
Cheechoo


This is really unbalanced and worse then a number of the proposals in the thread, but Rothstein isn't the sort of guy to make **** up and throw it on the internet. He actually talks to people inside organizations around the league and to my knowledge this is the very first speculation / trade rumor he's ever posted on his website or twitter.

As a Stars fan, I would absolutly love for this to happen
This Rothstein guy has got the magic touch eh?

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07-04-2009, 11:13 PM
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I'll take another stab since SJ (poster) doesn't want Toskala

To Chicago: Nabokov (5.375)

To San Jose: Huet (5.625)
Kaberle (4.25)
Brouwer (~1.5)
3rd (from CHI)

To Toronto: Ehroff (3.1)
Cheechoo (3.0)

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07-04-2009, 11:16 PM
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I'll take another stab since SJ (poster) doesn't want Toskala

To Chicago: Nabokov (5.375)

To San Jose: Huet (5.625)
Kaberle (4.25)
Brouwer (~1.5)
3rd (from CHI)

To Toronto: Ehroff (3.1)
Cheechoo (3.0)
Toronto is not taking back a washed up forward and another defenceman.

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07-04-2009, 11:19 PM
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Toronto is not taking back a washed up forward and another defenceman.
Clowe instead of Cheechoo?

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07-04-2009, 11:26 PM
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I'll take another stab since SJ (poster) doesn't want Toskala

To Chicago: Nabokov (5.375)

To San Jose: Huet (5.625)
Kaberle (4.25)
Brouwer (~1.5)
3rd (from CHI)

To Toronto: Ehroff (3.1)
Cheechoo (3.0)
so why exactly does san jose do this? it creates no additional cap space to help sign a 4th line, and really doesnt make the team any better.

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07-04-2009, 11:37 PM
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Clowe instead of Cheechoo?
Now we're talking.

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07-05-2009, 12:43 AM
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This Rothstein guy has got the magic touch eh?
Toronto gets: Good young player, TOTALLY overpaid D-Man, and a Worthless Losing-Talent Forward for Kaberle...can we just get Versteeg and picks?

Hell, just give us Kane, and we'll throw in Finger, Van Ryn, Frogren and Mayers

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07-05-2009, 12:58 AM
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I loved Toskala when he was in SJ and I was upset when he left, but I don't think he'll rebound anytime soon (if at all).

In another news, i'll hate DW if he gives up Nabokov for Huet. Especially since we'd be taking a bigger cap hit for a downgrade. 100% of all these proposals on this thread (except maybe one) are absolutely ridiculous, and DW would choke hanging up the phone because he'd be laughing while eating steak.


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07-05-2009, 01:17 AM
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Andrew Rothstein, founder of puck prospectus posted the following on his twitter:

To San Jose:

J. Blake
Huet
1st Round Pick (didn't identify if it was Chicago's or Toronto's.. I'm assuming Chicago's)

To Chicago:

Marleau
Kaberle
Nabakov

To Toronto:

Versteeg
Campbell
Cheechoo


This is really unbalanced and worse then a number of the proposals in the thread, but Rothstein isn't the sort of guy to make **** up and throw it on the internet. He actually talks to people inside organizations around the league and to my knowledge this is the very first speculation / trade rumor he's ever posted on his website or twitter.

As a Stars fan, I would absolutly love for this to happen
seems too good to be true. Tallon Would be God to pull this one out.

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07-05-2009, 03:09 AM
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No idea why Chicago pick up Marleau unless he can play as a winger as well since Chicago already has their top-3 centres set.

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07-05-2009, 03:10 AM
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No idea why Chicago pick up Marleau unless he can play as a winger as well since Chicago already has their top-3 centres set.
Played the wing on Thornton's line for most of last season.

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07-05-2009, 03:14 AM
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Played the wing on Thornton's line for most of last season.
Deal makes more sense then, did he play RW or LW?

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07-05-2009, 03:30 AM
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Deal makes more sense then, did he play RW or LW?
He played Left wing with Setoguchi or Roenick on the right wing. I don't know how credible any of these sources and rumors/proposals are, but I for one would be sooo astounded if we were somehow able to get Patrick Kane. He is one of my favorite players and that would be sick. I know it won't happen, but if it did that would be amazing.

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07-05-2009, 03:47 AM
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He played Left wing with Setoguchi or Roenick on the right wing. I don't know how credible any of these sources and rumors/proposals are, but I for one would be sooo astounded if we were somehow able to get Patrick Kane. He is one of my favorite players and that would be sick. I know it won't happen, but if it did that would be amazing.
A Sharks fan changed the deal when he quoted it. The actual deal proposed by Rothstein had Blake in place of Kane.

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07-05-2009, 05:15 AM
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A Sharks fan changed the deal when he quoted it. The actual deal proposed by Rothstein had Blake in place of Kane.
lol. Marleau and Nabby for Blake and Huet. Add in 26-30th overall from Chicago. Huge downgrade at forward and goalie, but hey we save 1.2 million and get a late 1st.

Horrid offer.

Changing Blake to Kane would def. screw Chicago over, but it still manages to be better than the original monstrosity.

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07-05-2009, 06:28 AM
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lol. Marleau and Nabby for Blake and Huet. Add in 26-30th overall from Chicago. Huge downgrade at forward and goalie, but hey we save 1.2 million and get a late 1st.

Horrid offer.

Changing Blake to Kane would def. screw Chicago over, but it still manages to be better than the original monstrosity.
Agreed. Tallon would be up for saint hood if he could pull off that kind of deal. At the end of the day Marleau is undoubtedly a good player but he isn't what Chicago are looking for and neither is Kaberle. What Chicago really need is big, physical and mobile d-man to play on the 2nd pairing with Campbell and most likely Versteeg will be traded to try and acquire this sort of player (assuming nothing comes from this QO fiasco).

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I could see Burke being interested in Jack Skille, maybe he would be involved?

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07-05-2009, 08:32 AM
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ok,i'll try.
toronto-marleau,huet,versteeg.
san jose-barker,kaberle,toskola
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