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07-03-2009, 08:16 AM
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PLEASE can we just fix the powerplay

ok, the powerplay. its been THE problem for awhile now. lets fix it.

i want to hear realistic, rationale and logical ideas on the pp. is it personel, is it the "system" or is it lack of execution. or a combination of all. heres my idea for 2 units using the guys we have now and not assuming any additional aquisitions.

#1 unit gaby-l, dubi-l, zherdev-r, higgins-l and redden-l

#2 unit gaby-l, drury-r, zherdev-l, boyle-l and gilroy-r

i would let gaby and zherdev play on both units. zherdev is my puck carrier. give it to him and let him break the d and establish control in the zone. hes prone to turnovers i know but with gomez gone, hes our best puck mover. gaby can also transport the puck. those guys will need to be in shape to play the full pp but atleast early in the season, they should be able to cut it.

we seem to have way more lefty shots so we need one righty on each line atleast.

obviously i would like to see dubi and boyle in front. both those guys are big enough to create screens. this season we must have a guy whos in the crease with size. drury cant do it. boyle and dubi can.

i have dru on the 2nd unit to allow for size on both units- dubi and boyle.

1 dman is all we need imo so we have an additional shooter out there. the dmans job in this configuration is to distrbute the puck and step up and take shots that hit the net occasionally and NOT have the shots blocked. i have redden and gilroy penciled in but girardi and staal could easliy be substituted and maybe even mdz.

i would think zherdev will have free reign to be a "rover" as will gaby. these guy will go from behind the net to the top with freedom.

gaby gives us a finisher weve been missing. higgins gives us another shooter as well. drury needs to step up bigtime this season and make a living scoring goals on the pp.

as long as we focus on improving our passing, more movement and notstanding still like last year and assuming we can hit the net, the goals will come. again, theres plenty of talent for the pp to score.

not having gomez and hopefully rozy out there makes our pp better.

ok lets talk pp.........

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07-03-2009, 09:50 AM
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Wasn't Redden signed to improve our PP? lol

Let's hope Gaborik works his magic with the extra ice... maybe DZ/Gilroy will provide some shots that actually HIT THE NET!

I'm so glad Gomez is gone.

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07-03-2009, 09:57 AM
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I can't imagine our PP not improving this year. Not saying it will lead the league...but we've turned over a good bit of our team (improving talent at offense) and have Torts for a full season, and I think even the law of averages comes into play at some point. I guess the big question mark is who do we have on D who can quarterback things? Who knows, maybe Del Zotto or Gilroy land the job. Sure would nice to see us score with the extra man once in a while!

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07-03-2009, 09:59 AM
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But can Gaborik or Zherdev handle playing the off wing on the PP? Does Gaborik like to play the point?

The weak LW position again causes some problems, and having players out for the entire 2 minutes can be dangerous in terms of giving up SH goals

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07-03-2009, 10:01 AM
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I would think a young guy like Gilroy gets a shot to be on it

Gaborik and Higgins will help out

Higgins did say he played less PP last year though and more PK.

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You want Gaborik and Zherdev to play on BOTH PP units? What about giving guys like Higgins and Callahan and Korpedo a shot at PP? Also, no one knows exactly if Gabs is over his injuries and you wanna risk him pulling something by giving him that much ice time every game? Plus as the games go on, these guys will get VERY tired.

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Zherdev and Gabby playing both units? That is just unrealistic (maybe give Gabby a little extra but thats it).

Higgins needs to be on the PP, he has a great shot.


Im very confident Gilroy will make the team and he will be on the point of one of the PPs as well.

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Higgins and Gabs definitely make our PP better. I think Gilroy makes the team and he gets a shot at the PP as well. He definitely cannot be worse than Roszival who refuses to shoot and any of our other D. Its amazing how immobile our defense is on the PP, none can walk the blue line and open up lanes.

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Zubov or Schneider. Either one improves your PP tons. Not going to find many guys in the league who understand how to run the PP better than either of those two. Then, next year, you can have Del Zotto and/or Sanguinetti.

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Zubov or Schneider. Either one improves your PP tons. Not going to find many guys in the league who understand how to run the PP better than either of those two. Then, next year, you can have Del Zotto and/or Sanguinetti.
What would it take!

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Higgins is a PP Magician along the boards and down low.

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But can Gaborik or Zherdev handle playing the off wing on the PP? Does Gaborik like to play the point?

The weak LW position again causes some problems, and having players out for the entire 2 minutes can be dangerous in terms of giving up SH goals
I'm 99% sure Zherdev likes to play the off-wing on the PP. Gaborik, on the other hand, I'm really not sure about.

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Zubov or Schneider. Either one improves your PP tons. Not going to find many guys in the league who understand how to run the PP better than either of those two. Then, next year, you can have Del Zotto and/or Sanguinetti.
According to DePaoli, Rangers are one of several teams interested in Zubov. This PP could be unstoppable if they get a healthy Zubov.

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Zubov or Schneider. Either one improves your PP tons. Not going to find many guys in the league who understand how to run the PP better than either of those two. Then, next year, you can have Del Zotto and/or Sanguinetti.

Schneider yes but Zubov re-signed with Stars...

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Schneider yes but Zubov re-signed with Stars...
No, he hasn't. Not yet, anyway.

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Barring a miracle (one of our defense prospects comes up and simply plays out of his mind), there isn't a chance our power play gets much better, if it even gets better at all. How could it?

As of this moment we have the same point men we had last year, unless you're throwing a forward back there and that probably won't help anyway. Key to powerplays are pointmen and we have none worthy of even being called that when it comes to the man advantage.

Expect disappointment in that area.

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Barring a miracle (one of our defense prospects comes up and simply plays out of his mind), there isn't a chance our power play gets much better, if it even gets better at all. How could it?

As of this moment we have the same point men we had last year, unless you're throwing a forward back there and that probably won't help anyway. Key to powerplays are pointmen and we have none worthy of even being called that when it comes to the man advantage.

Expect disappointment in that area.
I don't expect us to lead the league...but I do expect us to improve. New coach, new players...plus it's almost impossible to suck as bad as we have.

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I think the key to this PP is something people are overlooking. Brian Boyle. I honestly believe Torts brought him in to help with the PP and become, at the very least, a PP specialist who will go straight to the front of the net. You have guys like Gaborik and Zherdev on the outside on the wings who can use the space created by him down low and have hopefully a playr like Gilroy up top with any other d-man available.

Gaborik-Boyle-Zherdev
Gilroy-Zubov

Higgins-Dubinsky-Callahan
Drury-Girardi

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From I remember from this year with Torts is that there is no one set unit. He put out who was playing the best,

Was it because he was getting used to the players or did he do this in Tampa?

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I think the key to this PP is something people are overlooking. Brian Boyle. I honestly believe Torts brought him in to help with the PP and become, at the very least, a PP specialist who will go straight to the front of the net. You have guys like Gaborik and Zherdev on the outside on the wings who can use the space created by him down low
Similar to the way DET uses franzen and holmstrom...

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Higgins is a PP Magician along the boards and down low.
maybe he'd be helpful on a unit w/ zherdev, maybe offset some of the giveaways z has trouble w/ (particularly in the corners)

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