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08-07-2009, 02:05 PM
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The same things translate from big ice to small ice..
No, they don't. Its a large adjustment.

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I fully get why the Cam Neely avatar don't like anyone named Samuelsson. You can relax though, Ulf is not related to Mikael as far as we know.

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I can see Sammy putting up 25g and around 50 points if he plays with the Sedins. Meh.

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No, they don't. Its a large adjustment.
So what? There are definitely differences but so you know, those differences affect all players. The best players in the world are still the best players in the world. It's not like changing tennis court surfaces or going from boxla to field.

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So what? There are definitely differences but so you know, those differences affect all players. The best players in the world are still the best players in the world. It's not like changing tennis court surfaces or going from boxla to field.
Really? Going back to a large ice surface effects European players as much as it effects NA players?

My point is Extrapolating what the Sedins did with Samuelsson in the Olympics doesn't necessarily translate to NHL success.

On that note, sign Weinhandl. I heard the Sedins really ripped it up with him on the big ice surface, which, under your reasoning, should translate perfectly to the NHL.

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Weinhandl only has one eye

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Weinhandl only has one eye
Yarrr makes him an even more attractive option

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Weinhandl only has one eye
The twins got four eyes.

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Weinhandl only has one eye
Cam Neely only got one knee.

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Weinhandl only has one eye
Even worse in the 2006-07 season with the Wild he had only one goal.

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Any insight on how they perform as a unit on NA-sized ice?
No, nada, and more importantly, not a clue of the longevity of such a solution. what I do know about them is that they all like to cycle the puck, both Dannel ad Micke can get off shots in a hurry but also make the "extra" pass to open up a defense, they all execute on the break fairly well, and they really get along well with each other (something I think is very overlooked when people start putting together lines).

If I were AV, I wouldn't necessarily cement these guys as a line for the season, but I would scramble my lines and run this option fairly frequently.

Don't like them much as a PP option, as there is only Henrik that can win a face off among them, and if he gets tossed, they lose possession guaranteed.

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Cam Neely only got one knee.
meh, Bobby Orr had two bad knees and was the best player in the 1976 Canada Cup tournament.

Ohlund had essentially only one good eye - but still played effectively.

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The Samuelsson signing gets a dishonourable mention from Sporting News:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/arti...ive-list-sniff

I still don't get the Samuelsson signing. Why would Mike Gillis sign an aging UFA forward to an overcrowded top 9 AND take away the cap space required to sign a much needed top Dman?

Samuelsson was signed on July 3rd, 3 days after the Sedins'...


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The Samuelsson signing gets a dishonourable mention from Sporting News:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/arti...ive-list-sniff

I still don't get the Samuelsson signing. Why would Mike Gillis sign an aging UFA forward to an overcrowded top 9 AND take away the cap space required to sign a much needed top Dman?

Samuelsson was signed on July 3rd, 3 days after the Sedins'...
What did they have to say about the Campbell signing last offseason?

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The Samuelsson signing gets a dishonourable mention from Sporting News:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/arti...ive-list-sniff

I still don't get the Samuelsson signing. Why would Mike Gillis sign an aging UFA forward to an overcrowded top 9 AND take away the cap space required to sign a much needed top Dman?

Samuelsson was signed on July 3rd, 3 days after the Sedins'...
I have a feeling that by next year, we'll be itching to move his contract. He might not be awful in terms of production, although I'm betting that he'll disappoint but rather he'll take up a roster spot of a prospect. Some CDC members think he can crack 50 with the Sedins, but there was a reason he couldn't crack the Wings' top six.

To my count, Gillis is the only GM that gave a multi-year contract to a non-elite player. You gotta wonder what he was thinking.

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To my count, Gillis is the only GM that gave a multi-year contract to a non-elite player. You gotta wonder what he was thinking.
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Nikolai Antropov- 4 years
Scott Clemmensen- 3 years
Brian Gionta- 5 years
Nikolai Khabibulin- 4 years
Ales Kotalik- 3 years
Tom Kostopolous- 3 years
Ian Laperriere- 3 years
Travis Moen- 3 years
Chris Neil- 4 years
Mattias Ohlund- 7 years
Colton Orr- 4 years
Samuel Pahlson- 3 years
Steven Reinprecht- 3 years
Rob Scuderi- 4 years
Jaroslav Spacek- 3 years
Matt Walker- 4 years
Greg Zanon- 3 years

In addition 28 UFAs received 2 year deals.

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Nikolai Antropov- 4 years
Scott Clemmensen- 3 years
Brian Gionta- 5 years
Nikolai Khabibulin- 4 years
Ales Kotalik- 3 years
Tom Kostopolous- 3 years
Ian Laperriere- 3 years
Travis Moen- 3 years
Chris Neil- 4 years
Mattias Ohlund- 7 years
Colton Orr- 4 years
Samuel Pahlson- 3 years
Steven Reinprecht- 3 years
Rob Scuderi- 4 years
Jaroslav Spacek- 3 years
Matt Walker- 4 years
Greg Zanon- 3 years

In addition 28 UFAs received 2 year deals.
Yeah, that was bad on my part, both on wording and implication. But I still stand behind my opinion that many players were signed to 1 year contracts and that would have been preferable. I wouldn't count bottom six players, but like I said, I didn't word it very specifically.

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but there was a reason he couldn't crack the Wings' top six.
uh....there's a reason why Hossa was only 4th in total icetime among all forwards on the Red Wings. That said, I do dislike the signing (at least the length of the deal).

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Eh. He's just filler making 3rd liner money. I'd rather have him here and move him if some of the rookies overtake him in a couple of years. Beats the alternative where unproven guys are relied on to perform.

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08-15-2009, 02:49 AM
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The Samuelsson signing gets a dishonourable mention from Sporting News:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nhl/arti...ive-list-sniff

I still don't get the Samuelsson signing. Why would Mike Gillis sign an aging UFA forward to an overcrowded top 9 AND take away the cap space required to sign a much needed top Dman?

Samuelsson was signed on July 3rd, 3 days after the Sedins'...

Lol at taking ANYTHING Adam Proteau says as noteworthy. Whether you like the signing or not, making AP your assistant in defence only embarrasses you. He has nothing of interest to say unless it is one of the many times he is totally wrong, then it's fun to read.

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i'm gonna drink the kool-aid and say that if gillis went this hard after samuelsson there had to be a good reason.

right?

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Gillis is moneyballing all over our faces with Samuelsson. Assuming he's the missing triplet and that Samuelsson will click better than Burrows. I personally think it's a horrible signing as Samuelsson doesn't really fit anywhere else in the line-up. That is to say without pushing out a homegrown player who could potentially equal and surpass him.

I personally think this move was stupid as hell. After more than three or so seasons of watching disconnect linemates that induced Canuck fans to . You finally get a guy who compliments the Sedins perfectly who just happens to be signed long-term for cheap, and you could use that saved money elsewhere. But no, let's sign a 32 year old player who was pushed out of Detroit and who's never been a top six player to a 3 year 7.5 million deal. Brilliant! It's not like we don't have a glut of forwards who make Samuelsson redundant and needed cap space for a defenseman.


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I'm struggling to see how Samuelsson wouldn't fit with Kesler or Hodgson...

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samuelsson was almost unanimously the most hated player on the wings by wings fans.

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I'm struggling to see how Samuelsson wouldn't fit with Kesler or Hodgson...
I think Samuelsson would fit fine on any of the top 3 lines. Given Burrows is not a proven top 6 forward, and neither is Bernier, I don't feel the Samuelsson signing was as bad as many feel. I don't like the 3rd year of the deal, but Gillis will have to deal with that if it becomes a problem in the future.

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