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07-03-2009, 01:59 PM
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Heatley to Washington

To Washington
RW Heatley 7.5


To Ottawa
RW Eric Fehr RFA Arbitration Eligible Qualifying offer 771,750
D Shaone Morrisonn RFA Arbitration Eligible Qualifying offer 1,975,000
C Michael Nylander 4.875 for two years
2010 1st (30th after they win the cup) Compensation for taking Nylanders contract

In comporison to the Edmonton offer
Fehr is as good and may have more upside than Penner, younger and alot cheaper
Shaone Morrisonn IMO is better than Smid
Nylander can still be a good #2 Center if in the right situation, I know Cogliano is a much better option that is why the #1 pick is included.

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Heatley
for Semin and Morrisonn

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07-03-2009, 02:01 PM
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To Washington
RW Heatley 7.5


To Ottawa
RW Eric Fehr RFA Arbitration Eligible Qualifying offer 771,750
D Shaone Morrisonn RFA Arbitration Eligible Qualifying offer 1,975,000
C Michael Nylander 4.875 for two years
2010 1st (30th after they win the cup) Compensation for taking Nylanders contract

In comporison to the Edmonton offer
Fehr is as good and may have more upside than Penner, younger and alot cheaper
Shaone Morrisonn IMO is better than Smid
Nylander can still be a good #2 Center if in the right situation, I know Cogliano is a much better option that is why the #1 pick is included.

or
Heatley
for Semin and Morrisonn
Sign me up for Semin and Morrisonn but definitely not that first trade.

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07-03-2009, 02:02 PM
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To Washington
RW Heatley 7.5


To Ottawa
RW Eric Fehr RFA Arbitration Eligible Qualifying offer 771,750
D Shaone Morrisonn RFA Arbitration Eligible Qualifying offer 1,975,000
C Michael Nylander 4.875 for two years
2010 1st (30th after they win the cup) Compensation for taking Nylanders contract

In comporison to the Edmonton offer
Fehr is as good and may have more upside than Penner, younger and alot cheaper
Shaone Morrisonn IMO is better than Smid
Nylander can still be a good #2 Center if in the right situation, I know Cogliano is a much better option that is why the #1 pick is included.

or
Heatley
for Semin and Morrisonn
No to both.

No to Russians, in general; and the first deal makes me lol.

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07-03-2009, 02:05 PM
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I don't think Heatley would waive his NTC.

My guess is that he wants to go to a big market team where he'll be the main star. I doubt he wants to be in Ovechkin's shadow.

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I don't think Heatley would waive his NTC.

My guess is that he wants to go to a big market team where he'll be the main star. I doubt he wants to be in Ovechkin's shadow.
I would say his intentions would seem to be the exact opposite.

Edmonton may not be a big market population wise, but is as far as the rest of the intangibles go.

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No to both.

No to Russians, in general; and the first deal makes me lol.

dont expect an overpayment for heatly since everybody knows he wants out of Ottawa. since u dont need russians, the caps could offer a young canadian defender in morrison for the russian a-train.

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07-03-2009, 02:13 PM
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dont expect an overpayment for heatly since everybody knows he wants out of Ottawa. since u dont need russians, the caps could offer a young canadian defender in morrison for the russian a-train.
I didn't say we didn't need Russians.

I said "No to Russians, in general".

For example, if you want to throw in AO, then it would be an exception. .

A-Train is an exception as he's on our roster and seems happy there. I don't want to trade for more Russians with the KHL never far away. Morrison is also a crappy defender, and, doesn't address the Sens needs.

As to whether or not the Sens get value: Don't care. He can sit in the press box or play; but, I rather us finish dead last with him in the press box then make some other team better for spare parts.

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how do you offer 2 deals, where the value is sooooo completely different. I love how the 2nd proposal is just 3 words long, but the 1st is a novel.

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Nylander's wife might not let him come.

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07-03-2009, 02:23 PM
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To Washington
RW Heatley 7.5


To Ottawa
RW Eric Fehr RFA Arbitration Eligible Qualifying offer 771,750
D Shaone Morrisonn RFA Arbitration Eligible Qualifying offer 1,975,000
C Michael Nylander 4.875 for two years
2010 1st (30th after they win the cup) Compensation for taking Nylanders contract

In comporison to the Edmonton offer
Fehr is as good and may have more upside than Penner, younger and alot cheaper
Shaone Morrisonn IMO is better than Smid
Nylander can still be a good #2 Center if in the right situation, I know Cogliano is a much better option that is why the #1 pick is included.

or
Heatley
for Semin and Morrisonn
Oh my god I want that second trade so much. Can you imagine how deadly Ovechkin - Backstrom - Heatley would be?

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07-03-2009, 02:24 PM
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To Washington
RW Heatley 7.5


To Ottawa
RW Eric Fehr RFA Arbitration Eligible Qualifying offer 771,750
D Shaone Morrisonn RFA Arbitration Eligible Qualifying offer 1,975,000
C Michael Nylander 4.875 for two years
2010 1st (30th after they win the cup) Compensation for taking Nylanders contract

In comporison to the Edmonton offer
Fehr is as good and may have more upside than Penner, younger and alot cheaper
Shaone Morrisonn IMO is better than Smid
Nylander can still be a good #2 Center if in the right situation, I know Cogliano is a much better option that is why the #1 pick is included.

or
Heatley
for Semin and Morrisonn
L-O-L until the final 2 sentences.

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07-03-2009, 02:25 PM
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Not going to comment on the value, but that would be bad ass combination

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Nylander has enough negative value alone to cancel out Fehr and Morrisson in the first trade. So Heatley for a low 1st? No way the Sens do that.

Everyone knows the Caps are doing everything in their power to get rid of Nylander and is in about the same situation at Heatley.

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07-03-2009, 02:27 PM
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As to whether or not the Sens get value: Don't care. He can sit in the press box or play; but, I rather us finish dead last with him in the press box then make some other team better for spare parts.
Fehr, Morrisonn and Nylander and a 1st spare parts LOL, they all contributed to a team that was playing after 82 games. They all had decent stats playing in limited roles ie Fehr 2nd and 3rd line had as many points as Penner, Morrisonn better stats than Smid and even Nylander produced 33 pts getting 4th line minuits and as healthy scrath alot of nights. Just cause he didn't fit into BB plans doesn't make him a terrible player. I will be laughing when you finnish in the basement with Heater in the pressbox and Spezza demanding a trade next.

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Nylander has enough negative value alone to cancel out Fehr and Morrisson in the first trade. So Heatley for a low 1st? No way the Sens do that.

Everyone knows the Caps are doing everything in their power to get rid of Nylander and is in about the same situation at Heatley.
Yes we are trying to deal him but we can play who we have a still be an elite team and buy him out next year

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Fehr, Morrisonn and Nylander and a 1st spare parts LOL, they all contributed to a team that was playing after 82 games. They all had decent stats playing in limited roles ie Fehr 2nd and 3rd line had as many points as Penner, Morrisonn better stats than Smid and even Nylander produced 33 pts getting 4th line minuits and as healthy scrath alot of nights. Just cause he didn't fit into BB plans doesn't make him a terrible player. I will be laughing when you finnish in the basement with Heater in the pressbox and Spezza demanding a trade next.
Everybody here thinks the second trade is better I'm sure of that. And it would make both teams better. So lets all calm down and call our local GMs to get it done.

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Oh my god I want that second trade so much. Can you imagine how deadly Ovechkin - Backstrom - Heatley would be?
i can, it would be probably ovechkin - backstrom - semin like deadly

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Russians + Ottawa - Atrain = FAIL!

unless it is Ovy/Datz/malkin/Kovalchuk

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Everybody here thinks the second trade is better I'm sure of that. And it would make both teams better. So lets all calm down and call our local GMs to get it done.
No it wouldn't.

There's a thing called Salary Cap.

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Everybody here thinks the second trade is better I'm sure of that. And it would make both teams better. So lets all calm down and call our local GMs to get it done.
Heatley > Semin

almost a latteral move for Ottawa, we are going to have to trade or sign a top 6 forward :p

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Everybody here thinks the second trade is better I'm sure of that. And it would make both teams better. So lets all calm down and call our local GMs to get it done.
Heatley isn't nearly enough of an upgrade over Semin to make the Caps better, not since he'd screw up the cap situation (we wouldn't have the cap space to replace Mo) and could easily have a negative impact on the room if things don't go well.

Obviously he's the better/more proven/more reliable goal scorer. But he doesn't replace Semin's PKing, or his playmaking, and he doesn't fit the same "young core/friends with Ovie/Backstrom" role that Semin does. And of course he creates an unfillable opening on the D.

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Heatley is a LW.

Moving Heatley creates a hole in the top line LW spot. So logically the second deal is the best one FROM Washington BUT Murray seems to be tring to recoup Melnyk's $4 million somehow so the Caps would have to be taking more back.

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Heatley > Semin
Last season it was definitely just on the contrary...

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Ottawa doesn't do this. They get hosed.

Carlson, Neuvirth, Fehr, 1st.

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Ottawa doesn't do this. They get hosed.

Carlson, Neuvirth, Fehr, 1st.
Sal-a-ry-cap?

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