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07-03-2009, 02:58 PM
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Minnesota - Los Angeles

To Los Angeles:

Josh Harding
Marek Zidlicky

To Minnesota:

Jack Johnson
2nd round pick

Los Angeles gets their offensive d-man in Zidlicky and potential number 1 goalie in Harding, Harding + Quick tandem would be very good for many years to come.

And i probably dont have to clarify what Minnesota gets.

EDIT: Switching Bernier and the 2nd round pick is also 1 option.


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I applaud this proposal.

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07-03-2009, 02:59 PM
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Pretty good one.

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07-03-2009, 03:00 PM
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This is solid.
I think LA would do it.
Minny? Not quite sure, but it's a good proposal.

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it actually is a decent proposal. but we dont need another Dman. maybe a Clutterbuck or Miettenen.

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07-03-2009, 03:06 PM
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don't think LA needs another d-man.
If they trade JJ, big 'if', it will be for a forward..imo

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07-03-2009, 03:07 PM
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The value is perfect, but LA doesn't need Harding do they? They have Quick and Ersberg, along with Bernier and Zatkoff in the minors. Switch Harding to Gillies/Pouliot + a pick and it's more reasonable IMO.

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07-03-2009, 03:07 PM
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value is there, but as good as Harding's upside is the Kings would probably be better suited trading Johnson in a package for a top-6 (if they trade him at all).

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07-03-2009, 03:07 PM
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No man.. The only way we're trading Jack Johnson is for a LW.. And Jack isn't going anywhere, so this proposal is a fail

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The value is fine, but the Kings don't need another offensive defenseman, they need a scoring LW.

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We don't really need another goaltender, pass. Horrible proposal.

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07-03-2009, 03:11 PM
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Oh I didn't even see Josh Harding.. Lol, this deal is even worse than I thought

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07-03-2009, 03:12 PM
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it actually is a decent proposal. but we dont need another Dman. maybe a Clutterbuck or Miettenen.
Zidlicky and Doughty running the PP for ya, sounds better than having guys like Preissing, Greene or Scuderi eh?

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The value is perfect, but LA doesn't need Harding do they? They have Quick and Ersberg, along with Bernier and Zatkoff in the minors. Switch Harding to Gillies/Pouliot + a pick and it's more reasonable IMO.
I expected this to come up. I think Harding is more proven than anyone else in your post. Quick seems pretty good goalie, but it was just his first season, Ersberg is nothing special and Bernier is still in the minors. Having Harding gives more time for those goalies to develop and not rush into the nhl.

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Zidlicky and Doughty running the PP for ya, sounds better than having guys like Preissing, Greene or Scuderi eh?



I expected this to come up. I think Harding is more proven than anyone else in your post. Quick seems pretty good goalie, but it was just his first season, Ersberg is nothing special and Bernier is still in the minors. Having Harding gives more time for those goalies to develop and not rush into the nhl.
Harding = Ersberg IMO

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07-03-2009, 03:18 PM
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Anyone else hate Kings fans and their stuck up attitude. Explaining why you don't want to do this proposal is fine but the value is perfect so quit saying it is horrible. You guys overrate your players as much if not more than the Leafs.

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07-03-2009, 03:19 PM
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Zidlicky and Doughty running the PP for ya, sounds better than having guys like Preissing, Greene or Scuderi eh?
Kyle Quincey is already running the power play and scored only four fewer points than Zidlicky in his first full season of NHL action last year.

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I expected this to come up. I think Harding is more proven than anyone else in your post. Quick seems pretty good goalie, but it was just his first season, Ersberg is nothing special and Bernier is still in the minors. Having Harding gives more time for those goalies to develop and not rush into the nhl.
Ersberg is nothing special, but as a placeholder for Bernier he's functional and already on the team.

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Zidlicky and Doughty running the PP for ya, sounds better than having guys like Preissing, Greene or Scuderi eh?
Is Kyle Quincey chopped liver?

1st PP is Doughty and Quincey or Doughty and Stoll.

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Zidlicky and Doughty running the PP for ya, sounds better than having guys like Preissing, Greene or Scuderi eh?



I expected this to come up. I think Harding is more proven than anyone else in your post. Quick seems pretty good goalie, but it was just his first season, Ersberg is nothing special and Bernier is still in the minors. Having Harding gives more time for those goalies to develop and not rush into the nhl.
Having JJ and Doughty on the PP sound just as good, and even Quincey and Doughty sounds fine. JJ, even if expendable, is only be used as bait for a forward as stated earlier.

Goaltending with Ersberg and Quick is good enough for this year. The Kings have an offer out to Biron still.

As others have said, value wise it's fair, just makes no sense to what the Kings are looking for atm.

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We don't really need another goaltender, pass. Horrible proposal.
Please. There's nothing horrible about it.

I get that you like Johnson as a fan and would hate to give him up, but be reasonable. He is the new "Ryder, Halak, 2nd" and Kaberle in terms of how overrated he is by his own team's fans.

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Kyle Quincey is already running the power play and scored only four fewer points than Zidlicky in his first full season of NHL action last year.
Zidlicky is better than Quincey and if you're going to run 2 pp lines, wouldnt 3 offensive d-men be better than 2?

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Anyone else hate Kings fans and their stuck up attitude. Explaining why you don't want to do this proposal is fine but the value is perfect so quit saying it is horrible. You guys overrate your players as much if not more than the Leafs.
Anyone else hate people who lump a huge group into one category?

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Anyone else hate Kings fans and their stuck up attitude. Explaining why you don't want to do this proposal is fine but the value is perfect so quit saying it is horrible. You guys overrate your players as much if not more than the Leafs.
Don't say all Kings fans, because most are not like this. Every team has thier share of people that are exactly like you stated, but go read the Kings boards and some might suprise you with thier knowledge.

I just hope the fans you are referring to are stating it's horrible because they expect the OP to understand exactly what the Kings needs are, not looking at it from a "value" aspect.

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Anyone else hate Kings fans and their stuck up attitude. Explaining why you don't want to do this proposal is fine but the value is perfect so quit saying it is horrible. You guys overrate your players as much if not more than the Leafs.
Try not to generalize. It offends other members of that team's fans that it doesn't apply to, especially when the offenders tend to be the same people in every thread that just happen to be very vocal about it.

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values fair but doesn't adress the kings needs

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Zidlicky is better than Quincey and if you're going to run 2 pp lines, wouldnt 3 offensive d-men be better than 2?
If Zidlicky is better than Quincey, and Quincey is better than JJ, why would Minn trade a better defensemen + a goalie for JJ?

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