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07-06-2009, 08:23 PM
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That could be what he is expecting through the entire year due to injuries and whatnot, not all at once.
Well unless, Stempniak, Mayers show up this year they may be the ones sitting while rookies get the playing time. Neither one did anything to guarantee full time employment this year.

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07-06-2009, 08:30 PM
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Well unless, Stempniak, Mayers show up this year they may be the ones sitting while rookies get the playing time. Neither one did anything to guarantee full time employment this year.
Agree'd. Stemps needs a strong camp I believe to make this team. But I think Burke wants all his players to be looking over their shoulders at training camp.

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07-06-2009, 08:42 PM
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Agree'd. Stemps needs a strong camp I believe to make this team. But I think Burke wants all his players to be looking over their shoulders at training camp.
Except, like Grabovski last year, I can see him give more rope to players who are part of the future.

IMO, neither Stempniak nor Mayers are part of the team's future.

Rookies may take turns with veterans for playing time.

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07-06-2009, 09:04 PM
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Out defence is just stupid good

this is assuming Kaberle is traded

Schenn Komisarek
Beauchemin Van Ryn
Exelby Finger

I think White comes back to forword, or MVR gets traded.

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07-06-2009, 09:09 PM
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we are rebuilding and with wilsons comments it obvious kids are going to be infused onto the team

hanson, bozak, rau and stalberg are all ready to make the next step, playing in the ahl is not in the best interests of the leafs and these kids

get ready this team is going forward with a young future, and its about time !

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07-06-2009, 09:27 PM
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And Colin Stuart is boy wonder? The guy couldn't even play a full season with the atlanta thrashers last year.... I think Stuart is more likely marlies bound more then some of the rookies.
uh, when do I mention Stuart. I think you are responding to some other poster. I'm just saying what management always stated Hanson was more of a project so by no means is he someone to pencil in the Leafs opening day roster.

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07-06-2009, 09:35 PM
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Burke and Wilson saw Stuart first hand obviously in the WC camp and the first 4 games..

obviously they saw something they liked...

3 shorties in 33 games...

our PK was 30th...I'd bet this guy starts the year on our 4th line

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07-06-2009, 09:41 PM
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I find it funny that we could ice the following:

Kaberle-Schenn
Komi-Beauchemin
Exelby-White
Stralman

for the same cost Montreal ices the following:

Gionta-Gomez-Cammalleri

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07-06-2009, 09:58 PM
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Most players need time to adjust to a bigger frame when adding 10-20 pounds of muscle. Even 10 pounds could take upwards of a year to add to his frame depending on his genetic makeup.

Hopefully Bozak is spending the summer working on bulking his frame for the preseason. During the season it's much more difficult to add muscle vs the summer months without a hockey schedule.
Correct, but during the summer months, many hockey players can stack on the pounds...
Unless he's already in tank shape, I couldn't see him ever taking a year to add 10 pounds.

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07-06-2009, 10:50 PM
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I find it funny that we could ice the following:

Kaberle-Schenn
Komi-Beauchemin
Exelby-White
Stralman

for the same cost Montreal ices the following:

Gionta-Gomez-Cammalleri
This.... spectacular D

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07-06-2009, 10:54 PM
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we are rebuilding and with wilsons comments it obvious kids are going to be infused onto the team

hanson, bozak, rau and stalberg are all ready to make the next step, playing in the ahl is not in the best interests of the leafs and these kids

get ready this team is going forward with a young future, and its about time !
Last I heard Rau wasn't signed which makes him a UFA... I don't see him in the NHL next year

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07-06-2009, 10:57 PM
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And Colin Stuart is boy wonder? The guy couldn't even play a full season with the atlanta thrashers last year.... I think Stuart is more likely marlies bound more then some of the rookies.

I expect to see:

Poni Grabo Kulemin
Blake Stajan Tlusty
Hagman Bozak Stemps
Mitchell Mayers Orr

And Hanson getting in there from time to time.

Kaberle Komi
Beauchamen Schenn
White Finger

Extras: 1) Van Ryn 2) XLBY

Toskala
Exelby will not be an extra. Burke and Nonis tried to get him at the deadline last year and were unsuccessful until now. He wasnt just something Atlanta wanted to get off the books.

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07-06-2009, 11:06 PM
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If you read the guy who is more important than us posers about line-ups!

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL...41411-sun.html




So if RW is working 5 - 6 rookies into HIS line up, obviously you have to put 5 - 6 rookies in your line up.

Now guess which veterans will not be there.
Sweet but Burke better start making some moves then:
Gone: Blake, Finger, Van Ryn,

Kulemin - Grabovski - Ponikarovsky (Scoring)
Hagman - Stajan -Hanson (Shutdown)
Tlusty - Bozak - Stempniak (Scoring)
Mayers - Mitchell - Orr/Stuart (Energy)
Stuart/Orr

Kaberle - Komisarek
Schenn - Beauchemin
White - Oreskovic
Exelby
Stralman - First D callup

Toskala
Gustavsson

There's 5-6 with good insulation of veterans to not throw the rookies to the wolves. I really want Oreskovic on our bottom pairing, Wilson said last year he played very well and was definitely in our top 6 but with all the d signed we are going to need to move some guys or waive some. He seems like a Burke like player and would rather him than Finger or Exelby to get some youth with similar skills.

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07-07-2009, 01:53 AM
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Out defence is just stupid good

this is assuming Kaberle is traded

Schenn Komisarek
Beauchemin Van Ryn
Exelby Finger

I think White comes back to forword, or MVR gets traded.
You're not going to have two right handed defencemen on the top pairing.. And Schenn can't play the left side. If you saw the games last season Schenn was lost when he was moved to the left.. He soon went back to the right side after he played pretty bad hockey on the left.

You can't just throw names into a hat and set pairings. They have to be thought through.

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07-07-2009, 02:05 AM
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You're not going to have two right handed defencemen on the top pairing.. And Schenn can't play the left side. If you saw the games last season Schenn was lost when he was moved to the left.. He soon went back to the right side after he played pretty bad hockey on the left.

You can't just throw names into a hat and set pairings. They have to be thought through.
he played there for more then a short time... and he had some very very good games on his off side...

i believe the malkin hit was him moving to his left.. i don't think he will agree that schenn was lost..LOL


but seriously... kaberle & others (MVR/finger/frogen/white?) will not be here next year...

I see Komi + Beau as our top pairing (Combo ~= KomBeau)

then White - Schenn

and wrapped up by XLBY - Finger

with stralman putting on pressure/ riding 7th

means MVR, Frogen, and the rest are delt or in the minors...

MVR is a good all around d-man... if he can get past his injuries... and Frogen can add team tougness... not that we need that anymore.

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07-07-2009, 02:11 AM
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he played there for more then a short time... and he had some very very good games on his off side...
Sorry but you're wrong. Schenn was terrible on the left side when he started there. Wilson quickly put him back on the right when Schenn was embarrassing himself for a little while there. Anyone who follows the team well could clearly see that.

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I see Komi + Beau as our top pairing (Combo ~= KomBeau)
Komi is a right side D-man too. You can't have him on the left. He was awful when Montreal out him there for a few games. When he was with Markov he was on the right as Markov is a left D.

You need Beauch-Komi and Schenn on the right for the other pairing.

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07-07-2009, 12:09 PM
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Here's what I would have right now. I'm sure we'll add a forward or two before the season though.

Hagman-Grabovski-Blake
Ponikarovsky-Stajan-Stempniak
Tlusty-Bozak-Kulemin
Stuart-Mitchell-Mayers
Orr

Hanson on the farm

Kaberle-Komisarek
Beauchemin-Schenn
White-Stralman/Frogren/Van Ryn/Finger (one or two of the options at #6 will be gone before the season)
Exelby

Oreskovic on the farm

Toskala
Gustavsson

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07-07-2009, 12:34 PM
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Kulemin--Grabovski--Ponikarovsky
Hagman--Stajan--Blake
Stempniak--Tlusty--Bozak
Orr/Hanson--Mitchell--Stuart

Komisarek--Schenn
Kaberle--Exelby
White--Beachemin

Toskala
??

Extras:
Van Ryn
Finger
Frogren
Stralman
Mayers

Does this seem like the right line combo's?
IMO, we hurt players, but dont score.. we lose alot of games 1-0, 2-1...
Bottom Feeder.
We got Beachemin now so, edit*

Tlusty plays RW. Someone's been playing too much NHL 09! :p :p :p

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07-07-2009, 12:43 PM
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Niklas Hagman - Matt Stajan - Jason Blake
Alexei Ponikarovsky - Mikhail Grabovski - Nikolai Kulemin
Jiri Tlusty - Tyler Bozak - Lee Stempniak
Colton Orr - John Mitchell - Jamal Mayers
Colin Stuart

Tomas Kaberle - Luke Schenn
Francois Beauchemin - Mike Komisarek
Garnet Exelby - Ian White
Mike Van Ryn
Jeff Finger

Vesa Toskala
Jonas Gustavsson

Bolded players I expect to be moved before the start of the season.

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07-07-2009, 12:44 PM
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Tlusty plays RW. Someone's been playing too much NHL 09! :p :p :p
Tlusty can play both wings but the position he was drafted as was centre.

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07-07-2009, 12:58 PM
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I think Kaberle is gone for somoene like Kessel.

Blake - Stajan - Kessel
Kulemin - Grabovski - Ponikarovsky
Hagman - Bozak - Stempniak
Mayers - Mitchell - Orr

Beauchemin - Komisarek
Schenn - White
Stralman - Exelby
Finger

Toskala
Gustavsson


I thinks Burke sees the team like this in the future...

Kovalchuk - Kadri - Kessel
Kulemin - Grabovski - Stefanovich/Tlusty
Hanson - Bozak - Hagman
Orr - Mitchell - Mayers

Komisarek - Beauchemin
Schenn - White
Stralman - Oreskovic

Gustavsson
Pogge

This by the way, is the Leafs 2012 Stanley Cup Winning Team

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07-07-2009, 09:45 PM
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07-07-2009, 09:59 PM
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That's what I want to see.

N.Kulemin--M.Grabovski--A.Ponikarovsky
Jiri Tlusty--Tyler Bozak--Jason Blake
N.Hagman--John Mitchell--Victor Stalberg
C.Orr--Christan Hanson--C.Stuart

M.Komisarek--Kaberle
Beauchiman--L.Schenn
Stralman--G.Exelby

V.Toskala
J.Gustavsson

Traded and whatever:
J.Mayers
J.Finger
J.Frogren
M.Van Ryn
White
Stajan
Stempniak

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realistic leafs/Burke Type team:

Hagman - Getzlaf - D. Brown

B. Schenn - Sedin - Sedin

Buflygien - Grabovski - Lucic

Parros - Mitchell - Mayers


Pronger-Green

Komisarek-Vlasic

Exelby-Beauchemin

Gustavsson
Cloutier lol

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anyone know how fast these new guys are?

got a lot tougher but did we get a lot slower too?
a bit slower?
any slower?

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