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07-07-2009, 01:12 PM
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Chi - Ott - Nyi

To Chicago: Heatley, Streit

To NYI: Campbell, Brouwer, Picard

To OTT: Versteeg, Skille, Sopel, CHI 1st, NYI 3rd

NYI gets a more expensive offensive D for their offensive D in Streit and get a youngster with good upside in Brouwer to take on the extra salary. They also get a solid youth D in Picard which they sorely need.

OTT gets some solid young pieces for their headache and Sopel is there as a cash dump, however OTT still gains about 2 mil in cap space which they need.

CHI gets a stud scorer and replace Campbell's offense from the back end and about 2 mil in cap space

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doesn't look too bad,
but does chicago got the cap room for that?

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Islanders fans would not approve. Ottawa would likely go along with that though.

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I would do it.

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Why would we give up Streit for Campbell and his horrible contract??

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07-07-2009, 01:20 PM
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Why would we give up Streit for Campbell and his horrible contract??
Because you also get 2 solid youngsters in Brouwer and Picard to take on the extra salary. And it makes it a sure thing you get to the cap floor. That's my thinking behind the proposal.

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Streit is a top 10 defenseman in the league, why would the Islanders even consider this deal?

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Because you also get 2 solid youngsters in Brouwer and Picard to take on the extra salary. And it makes it a sure thing you get to the cap floor. That's my thinking behind the proposal.
What if New York took out their 3rd and Chicago added Buff? It would help them deal with the salary cap and New York would get a big forward that would mix well with some of their younger skilled guys.

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Streit is a top 10 defenseman in the league, why would the Islanders even consider this deal?
They don't, not bad thou

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Streit is a top 10 defenseman in the league, why would the Islanders even consider this deal?
Let's not get carried away

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Let's not get carried away
It's not really getting carried away. He's an offensive defenseman who's really solid in his own zone. He put up 40+ points on the last place team in the league and he's signed to a very good deal. It's debatable that he's a top ten defenseman in the league. He's probably considered one of the most important Islanders by their fans, or at least I'd hope he is.

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Could the Hawks send another 1st, maybe Beach, to the Isles to get this to work?

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what about versteg and campbell for heatley

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Because you also get 2 solid youngsters in Brouwer and Picard to take on the extra salary. And it makes it a sure thing you get to the cap floor. That's my thinking behind the proposal.

Isles would not take on Campbell's 7 yr/$50m deal.Not when Streit's remaining 4 yrs/$16m is so affordable. 2 solid youngsters (Brouwer and Picard),isn't worth that kind of crappy salary overpayment.In 2 yrs the isles will need to pay Okie and Bailey.In 3 yrs,Tavares will be on his 2nd contract.

Isles will have no problem getting to the 2009-2010 cap floor, with Tavares's bonuses and with Blake Comeau/Nate Thompson being qualified.

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Could the Hawks send another 1st, maybe Beach, to the Isles to get this to work?

If you tied a bow to Campbell's head, taught him to dance, and then fed-ex'ed him to Uniondale with a 1st round pick in his hand, Isles still wouldn't take his contract.

And, Mark Streit is simply not available.

Nothing about the OP's deal is remotely workable.

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Because you also get 2 solid youngsters in Brouwer and Picard to take on the extra salary. And it makes it a sure thing you get to the cap floor. That's my thinking behind the proposal.

Er, the Isles are already at the floor. Current payroll is about $36 million. + 4 million for Tavare's cap hit and + 3 million for signing our RFAs.

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So, Chicago gets the 2 best players.

I'd still do it if I'm Ottawa though.

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Stop trying to get Heatley into the Central division

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It's not really getting carried away. He's an offensive defenseman who's really solid in his own zone. He put up 40+ points on the last place team in the league and he's signed to a very good deal. It's debatable that he's a top ten defenseman in the league. He's probably considered one of the most important Islanders by their fans, or at least I'd hope he is.
Yes we view Streit as one of our most important players and probably our best one right now. The guy vastly improved our PP and was very solid in his own zone. He was def a top 20 defender in the league last year and we are happy to have him. There is no way we trade him for Campbell and two prospects (even if they are good.) We would need a top top prospect in order to get us to move Streit. Not because he is worth that much to everyone else in the league, but because he is worth that much to the Isles and that is what matters here.

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07-07-2009, 01:48 PM
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I wouldn't even consider trading Streit for Campbell straight up. Streit is better. Plus Campbell is twice as expensive.

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If you tied a bow to Campbell's head, taught him to dance, and then fed-ex'ed him to Uniondale with a 1st round pick in his hand, Isles still wouldn't take his contract.
What if Campbell was a REALLY good dancer though? What if we through in some serious Flamenco lessons?

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What if Campbell was a REALLY good dancer though? What if we through in some serious Flamenco lessons?

There are a lot of what ifs there though. Yeah, if he could do the flamenco it would be different. But, how likely is that?

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Because you also get 2 solid youngsters in Brouwer and Picard to take on the extra salary. And it makes it a sure thing you get to the cap floor. That's my thinking behind the proposal.

The Isles wont be shooting themselves in attempt to hit the floor. It can be much easier attained through other methods. Regardless of that, Isles wont be parting with Streit.

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so we trade Heatley and Picard for someone who may or may not be a UFA, a terrible salary dump, a very late 1st round pick, and a 2nd line prospect?

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