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08-13-2009, 01:32 PM
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Filatov,Grachev,Loktyionov,Orlov,Voinov,Kulikov,Bobkov,Ki tzyn,Chernov,Petrov and definitly Kabanov and Kuznetsov will represent Russia at WJC but they arent in roster right now. bot however i do think that Russian team which is in USA right now should do better than this. (8:1 , 6:1). maybe there isnt enough chemistry between guys or is it Mr.Plyushev . his teams allways underachieve at the begin. (he just took over U20). we will see.
He is going to be making Columbus's team with ease...and they wont lend him out to the JRs because they will still be in the thick of things in December.

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08-14-2009, 11:13 AM
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"They just complement each other," said Blais. "Kristo is a sniper. … Stepan's a puck mover, reliable, pretty good hockey sense, gritty. The line seems to be working. That's what we're looking for here. If a line seems to have a little chemistry, leave it together and see how it unfolds."

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Looks like Blair likes the Kristo-Stephen-D'Amigo line. They seem to all have prior playing experience with each other.

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08-14-2009, 11:32 AM
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With some of the line-ups put together; there is potential for them to be kept to the perimeter,pushed around and bumped off the puck. There may be a false sense of security playing a weak Russian summer team. As pouskin pointed out, there is quite a number of high end players not in attendance for Russia. Any way you look at it, if you want to win the Gold, you need to have a team that has the pieces to beat Canada somewhere along the way.
Coach Blais seems to understand that whoever is on the final roster will need to have some bite to their game, which bodes well to have success.

If Kristo is pencilled in on one of the top two lines, what does everyone think of a potential Kristo vs Eberle (for the sake of the tournament)? They seem like similar players that could be going head to head.

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With some of the line-ups put together; there is potential for them to be kept to the perimeter,pushed around and bumped off the puck. There may be a false sense of security playing a weak Russian summer team. As pouskin pointed out, there is quite a number of high end players not in attendance for Russia. Any way you look at it, if you want to win the Gold, you need to have a team that has the pieces to beat Canada somewhere along the way.
Coach Blais seems to understand that whoever is on the final roster will need to have some bite to their game, which bodes well to have success.

If Kristo is pencilled in on one of the top two lines, what does everyone think of a potential Kristo vs Eberle (for the sake of the tournament)? They seem like similar players that could be going head to head.
I think the line-up that Blais and co will end up putting on the ice at the WJC's will have a common thread: grit, determination, and hard work. What's nice about this batch of players is each and every one of them possesses those qualities while at the same time being skilled. Not too many "stand outs" but no real liabilities either. This will be a very tough forward group to play against. In reality, Blais is going with the Canadian model-and can you blame him?

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Certainly not. Canada has had much success in recent years. One could argue Canada has got by some of the US teams which have been more talented.
I just made the point as last year the D got knocked off puck which led to the puck being put in the back of the net (particularly in the Canada-US game wherein it was a 3-0 game at the time).

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i thought the biggest flaw in the US team is lack of scoring threats. Although this was a weak russian team they managed to scored 14 goals in 2 games....

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i thought the biggest flaw in the US team is lack of scoring threats. Although this was a weak russian team they managed to scored 14 goals in 2 games....
While it is an incomplete Russian team the U.S. squad is facing, it must be said that certain players appear to be stepping up their games (like Danny Kristo) while other not as well know names (such as a Kyle Palmieri) are showing their true colors.

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How has the defense fared (I know someone posted that Carlson and Fowler looked great earlier in the thread, but did their play stagnate or did they continue to impress?)

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With some of the line-ups put together; there is potential for them to be kept to the perimeter,pushed around and bumped off the puck.
I'll tell you what... if they take D'Amigo, Kristo, Palmieri, Ryan, Bourque, etc. this won't be a perimeter team. Some of those guys are smaller, but they're all tenacious, gritty kids who want to be in the middle of everything and aren't afraid of going in and getting their hands dirty.

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How has the defense fared (I know someone posted that Carlson and Fowler looked great earlier in the thread, but did their play stagnate or did they continue to impress?)
This.

If possible also information on how wideman has looked so far on the team.

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any updates on the score or anything

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any updates on the score or anything
One of the Ranger posters(Squishy) made it to Lake Placid

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Well if it wasn't already obvious I think you can pretty much give Lee and Campbell the jobs now.

Maxwell still blows and Knapp has been hurt.

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Bourque, Schroeder and Palmieri were all scratched tonight. I know Bourque and Schroeder have been on the same line during camp and have had some very good chemistry while putting up a good amount of points, so they are locks, and Palmieri has been playing very well, so im sure he's a lock as well.

Guess they wanted to give the other guys a shot to see who to cut.

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Filatov,Grachev,Loktyionov,Orlov,Voinov,Kulikov,Bo bkov,Kitzyn,Chernov,Petrov and definitly Kabanov and Kuznetsov will represent Russia at WJC but they arent in roster right now. bot however i do think that Russian team which is in USA right now should do better than this. (8:1 , 6:1). maybe there isnt enough chemistry between guys or is it Mr.Plyushev . his teams allways underachieve at the begin. (he just took over U20). we will see.
They also lost to Russia U-18 in an exhibition match.

This team is pretty bad.

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Reading Kimelman's blog, it seems that the players who sat out will pretty much make the team for sure: Ryan Bourque, Kyle Palmieri, Jordan Schroeder, John Carlson and David Warsofsky. Maxwell probably shot his chances down with his poor performance tonight.

This comment pretty much says that Blais has a good idea on who will make the team and who won't:

"The guys that are on the bubble kind of defined themselves tonight to either have a chance or not," Blais told NHL.com. "It's pretty evident who's doing that right now. We're having a meeting to see who we want to play (Saturday) night. Maybe guys that are right there, we can separate our guys that we think are going to make the team and then there's quite a few guys that are either in or out."

For those who have seen the games, who else looks like a lock at this point?

Kimelman mentions Stepan having a good evaluation camp. I think Kristo will probably be selected as well.

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08-15-2009, 02:17 AM
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Reading Kimelman's blog, it seems that the players who sat out will pretty much make the team for sure: Ryan Bourque, Kyle Palmieri, Jordan Schroeder, John Carlson and David Warsofsky. Maxwell probably shot his chances down with his poor performance tonight.

This comment pretty much says that Blais has a good idea on who will make the team and who won't:

"The guys that are on the bubble kind of defined themselves tonight to either have a chance or not," Blais told NHL.com. "It's pretty evident who's doing that right now. We're having a meeting to see who we want to play (Saturday) night. Maybe guys that are right there, we can separate our guys that we think are going to make the team and then there's quite a few guys that are either in or out."

For those who have seen the games, who else looks like a lock at this point?

Kimelman mentions Stepan having a good evaluation camp. I think Kristo will probably be selected as well.
I think he came into this camp as the #3/#4 (we don't know about Knapp since he's been hurt) but IMO the only reason he would have made the team is if the USA brass was worried about Campbell's age (which it doesn't seem like they are). It doesn't seem as if Maxwell played well in the intrasquad scrimmages, and he gave up 6 goals on 17 shots tonight. That's a save % of 65. That's worse than pathetic. Maxwell is basically an average to terrible goalie right now that is still living off the hype from when he was 15. Lee and Campbell are so far superior I think you can call them absolute locks for the team.

Dean Blais didn't seem to thrilled with Maxwell either, basically singling him out:

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“The effort was there tonight, and I think we outshot them two-to one,” said Dean Blais, head coach of the 2010 U.S. National Junior Team. “But you can’t give up two or three soft goals and expect to win."

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third game for russia 6:4

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Was that the last game?

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Was that the last game?
no. last one will be today.

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GAME SUMMARY

Scoring By Period


RUS 2 - 2 - 2 - 6
USA 2 - 0 - 2 - 4


First Period - Scoring: 1, RUS, Kulemin (Ostapchuk), 1:04; 2, USA, Saponari (Wideman, Morin), 6:38 (pp); 3, RUS, Chudinov (Vasilyev), 7:23; 4, USA, Czarnik (Johnson), 13:35. Penalties: USA, Kreider (tripping), 1:22; RUS, Team (too many men), 2:51; RUS, Timkin (hooking), 5:41; RUS, Lazarev (high sticking), 8:19.

Second Period - Scoring: 5, RUS, Chiglintsev (Tarasenko, Burmistrov), 5:09 (pp); 6, RUS, Tarasenko (Berdyukov), 12:54. Penalties: USA, Donovan (hooking), 3:43; RUS, Klementyev (hooking), 10:08; RUS, Lazarev (tripping), 11:27; USA, McRae (boarding), 12:33; RUS, Klementyev (cross checking), 18:03.

Third Period - Scoring: 7, USA, Donovan (Stepan, Kristo), 2:37 (pp); 8, RUS, Burmistrov (unassisted), 5:49; 9, RUS, Ostapchuk (unassisted), 12:24 (sh); 10, USA, McRae (Stepan, Ness), 16:57 (pp). Penalties: RUS, Berdyukov (cross checking), 2:19; RUS, Kostev (cross checking), 8:18; RUS, Kugryshev (elbowing), 9:14; RUS, Kostromitin (roughing), 15:07; RUS, Chiglintsev (delay of game), 15:46; USA, Budish (slashing), 16:31; RUS, Kostromitin (hitting from behind, misconduct), 17:59.


Shots by Period

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3

Total
RUS 4 9 4 17
USA 11 9 13 33

Goaltenders (SH/SV) 1 2 3 Total
RUS, Trifonov 60:00
11-9

9-9
13-11 33-29
USA, Maxwell 58:30 4-2 9-7 4-2 17-11



Power Play: USA 3-10; RUS 1-4
Penalties: USA 4-8; RUS 14-36

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3-0 USA midway through the 2nd.


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Yeah, if anyone wants twitter updates from the game:

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She focuses on the Rangers prospects a bit, but at least it's updates

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Final: 6-0 USA

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