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08-14-2009, 07:22 PM
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I'm telling you, I think you guys got the steal of the draft in Larsen. Before the draft I had him pegged at around #60, and was mildly to say surprised when the 4th round started and he wasn't selected yet. If I got to redo the draft today there's less then 10 guys I would pick before him.

Anyhow, some reputable Frölunda writers are starting to get worried, here's an article published today;

Larsen is good — too good?
Tonight when Frölunda defeated Linköping in Motala (4–3) Philip Larsen was once again one of the team's best player.
Calm and safe with the puck.
The Danish defenceman has evolved significantly in one year and his development curve may take him far. Maybe all the way to Dallas, even if Frölunda obviously want to keep their stud defender.
– Ideally, I want to play in both places, he told Wild West Support after the victory.

[Motala] Just as we have got used to in the last year Philip Larsen belonged to the ice's more prominent players tonight. His defence is so natural and calm that it exudes and rub off on his teammates.
Philip himself is cool and calm as he stands in the locker room and gather his thoughts after the game.
He didn't play a great game. Not according to himself.
– I don't know if I had so much to do today. They never came down to my corner, so it felt as if I wasn't into the game too much.
Just this may also be a sign of development and how he sees himself. Simplicity and security is not hard for him today and when we from the stands notes that he made a faultless game it is just one of many games.

In Tuesday's meeting with Djurgården Larsen played with Henrik Tömmernes but tonight Janne Niskala was back in the squad after the Finnish Olympic orientation camp, and he was quickly paired with Larsen again by Ulf Dahlén.
They got to know each other well during the previous season, and it is clear that they are comfortable together on the ice.
– It is very fun to play with Janne, Larsen says, but laughs when he assess his colleague as being a forward sometimes.
– He is very offensive. I don't know of any defenceman who is as offensive as him.
It seems quite natural that Philip takes the biggest defensive responsibility of the two, and he has done so since they were first paired together last autumn. But despite it Larsen sees himself as an offensive defenceman who will happily take the opportunity to join the rusg as we saw a couple of occasions in tonight's game.
Among other things, he had an coast to coast raid but sadly he missed.
– When I see a chance I'll take it and run with it...

He works on his offensive qualities all the time. Paired with Janne Niskala a lot comes thanks to much Power Play time, a weakness Larsen has had is his shot – his one timer.
He's aware of it and explains thoroughly of his exercises and all the time he has spent on just this detail.
After many of the team's practices he remains as the last man on the ice and shoot 50, 60, maybe 70, shots on goal.
Everything to get better.
And to re-connect to the fact that he plays with Niskala, who is seen as a Power Play specialist with a lethal one timer, this often puts Larsen in good scoring position instead of his colleague. Opponents want at any price control the puck away from the Finnish master sniper.
But imagine the weapon Frölunda may have with an an equally hard shooting sniper Dane on the other side...

Right now the focusing is on Frölunda and the preseason at home, but in only a few weeks Philip flies over to Texas to participate in Dallas' camp, in early September. There he must convince the Stars management that he deserves a spot in the NHL.
If not, he will return to Elitserien.
Frölunda's GM Kent Norberg has said that it is almost certain that Larsen is playing in Sweden this autumn.
– I would of course prefer to play in both places, said Philip, in response to this claim, but says on one hand he doesn't have to hurry over but then it is also true that he wants to take the chance to play in the NHL already this autumn.
– My chances are good since I play a two way game, he says. I can play both offensively and defensively and I understand that they only have two such defencemen. And I'll come well prepared to camp. I've already trained on ice and played games which is an advantage for me.
Dallas now have 8 defencemen under contract and Philip know what it takes. Dallas is not interested in matching him as an 8th defenceman and have him sitting in the press box, instead they'll likely choose to lend him to Frölunda.
- I have to kill two of them for me to stay! (<-- Google translate, not what he said but too funny to edit )

Will Philip Larsen be back with Frölunda after the camp in Dallas? That is the question. The way he plays now, it can become tight.
Because Philip Larsen is good. Is he even too good?


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08-14-2009, 10:56 PM
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I'd be surprised if Larsen started over here this upcoming season, but definitely see it next year.

Glad to see the article though Thanks!

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08-15-2009, 11:14 AM
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Hey Krm,

Is he playing as Frolunda's #1 defenseman? Time on both the PP and PK as well?

That would be huge for Dallas to have their top 2 defensive prospects playing #1 minutes, Vishnevskiy in Austin and Larsen in Sweden.

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08-16-2009, 03:03 PM
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Alex Chiasson

F • 6-3 • 190 • St. Augustin, Que. • Des Moines Buccaneers (USHL)

Tallied a team-high 50 points (17g, 33a) in 56 games with the Des Moines Buccaneers of the USHL in 2008-09 ... Chosen for the 2009 USHL Prospects/All-Star Game ... Played for the Northwood School in Lake Placid during the 2007-08 season ... Selected in the second round (38th overall) by the Dallas Stars in the 2009 NHL Entry Draft.

[Head Coach Jack] Parker on Chiasson: “Very talented right-shot forward. Probably the top prospect in our freshman class. His size, strength, puck handling and hockey vision will allow him to be an impact player for us up front like Nicastro will be on defense, probably a little more so because he’ll get a chance to play more on the power play.”
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08-17-2009, 10:24 AM
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I'd be surprised if Larsen started over here this upcoming season, but definitely see it next year.

Glad to see the article though Thanks!
Another article on Larsen: Link & Google Translate. Under the headline 'Larsen's ambivalent autumn', it talks about how Larsen wants to play for both Dallas and Frölunda.

Larsen himself mentions that he has apparently told Dallas that he will prefer Frölunda over the AHL - although he does say nice things about the new Texas Stars, and makes an effort of explaining that this choice is more due to the good situation in Sweden than a potential bad one in AHL. Also, credit is given to Ulf Dahlén whom the Dallas organization trusts enough to let Larsen stay in Sweden for the time being. If he cannot make the team that is.

In semi-related news, Frölunda has won their first two matches of the pre-season Nordic Trophy Tournament. I don't think Larsen has had any points though, although he did have an assist in Frölunda's 5-4 win against Swiss champions Lugano on saturday. Frölunda plays again tonight against HV71 - who btw just signed former Dallas player Janne Niinimaa.

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Beskorowany was traded to Kingston,

I'll be able to watch him tons now.

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Philip Larsen received a secondary assist in Frolunda's 5-3 loss to HV71. Isn't that the team that knocked Timra (Tom Wandell) out of the playoffs last year?

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Hey Krm,

Is he playing as Frolunda's #1 defenseman? Time on both the PP and PK as well?
Presumably. He did for a large part of the previous season, his 15 min/game average was because it took a few weeks before he cracked the roster (before Erik Karlsson had his slump). For some reason players who are dressed but do not have a single shift get a game played which counts against the average ice time. He often played +22 minutes during the second half of the season. He also got lots of PP and PK time.

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Philip Larsen received a secondary assist in Frolunda's 5-3 loss to HV71. Isn't that the team that knocked Timra (Tom Wandell) out of the playoffs last year?
Yes, Timrå in the quarterfinal and Frölunda in the semifinal...

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08-20-2009, 03:51 PM
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Philip named first star of the game tonight when Frölunda won 5-3 over Malmö in the Nordic Trophy. He played a great game and stood for some great defensive efforts.

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Philip named first star of the game tonight when Frölunda won 5-3 over Malmö in the Nordic Trophy. He played a great game and stood for some great defensive efforts.
any points? usually when you get 1st star it's because of your offensive contributions... The NHL at least still hasn't figured out that defense wins hockey games.

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any points? usually when you get 1st star it's because of your offensive contributions... The NHL at least still hasn't figured out that defense wins hockey games.
2nd assist on the last goal.

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Beskorowany will start training camp with Kingston on Tuesday.

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An article about Kingston: http://www.thebarrieexaminer.com/Art...aspx?e=1711094

Doug Gilmour (head coach) mentioned that Beskorowany will be the #1 guy, and he said they will be down to 2 goalies before the season starts (currently have 3).

Mark at Andrew's posted a different article about Beskorowany. Tyler said he expected to see Andy Moog quite a bit again this year after seeing him 3 times during last season. I doubt that will happen considering Moog and Barnes are expected to rotate between the bench and the pressbox. I guess Les Jackson will be doing the traveling now.

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Brandon Wheat Kings: http://www.oursportscentral.com/serv...es/?id=3889885

Scott Glennie's team is stocking up for the Memorial Cup. Both of their top 2 picks in the import draft, Toni Rajala and Alexander Urbom, will be joining the team for training camp.

In addition, this story doesn't mention it, but Brandon just acquired the rights to Minnesota (NCAA) defenseman Aaron Ness. There really hasn't been any news that Ness wants to leave the NCAA, but a story did come out earlier that Vancouver may want Jordan Schroeder to leave for the WHL. Schroeder's dad said he would return to Minnesota though.

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JUST you wait, you will have a STUD in Larsen,

I cannot believe how late he went in the draft!

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Max Giese is a hockey scout for McKeen's and Redline. I read everything I can by him. This is his take on Dallas' Top 5 prospects, 1 underrated prospect, and 1 overrated prospect:

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1. Scott Glennie, RW - Could be a home run once he fills out; has nice hands, a strong work ethic, and underrated offensive creativity.

2. Jamie Benn, LW - A pure goal scorer that can dangle with soft hands and has impressive anticipation around the net.

3. Ivan Vishnevsky, D - Smallish, offensively skilled rearguard that operates with a shooters mentality.

4. Alex Chiasson, RW - Huge winger that plays physical and packs a heavy shot. Just needs to develop into his lanky frame.

5. Raymond Sawada, RW - Strictly a north/south powerforward that overwhelms opponents with his size and strength.

Overrated: Nico Saccchetti, C – Former second round draft choice is smallish and struggling to produce offensively in college.

Underrated: Tom Wandell, C – Progressed exponentially last season, can play all three forward positions, and boasts a deceiving skill set.
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Frölunda just signed former Dallas player Janne Niinimaa.
Curse their team for the next 100 years.

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Kind of a strange list by Giese. On the one hand, he seems to value long-term projectability by putting Glennie at the top and Chiasson fourth, guys who may be 3+ years away. But then he has Sawada all the way up at fifth indicating he's likely considering his proximity. You can't have it both ways.

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Kind of a strange list by Giese. On the one hand, he seems to value long-term projectability by putting Glennie at the top and Chiasson fourth, guys who may be 3+ years away. But then he has Sawada all the way up at fifth indicating he's likely considering his proximity. You can't have it both ways.
Or he sees Sawada as more than just a grinder. The opinion doesn't seem to be the norm, but I have heard people claim Sawada had Top 6 potential.

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Jamie Benn is at camp with Kelowna:

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I was impressed by the workman like approach Jamie Benn brought to the opening day of training camp. Benn could simply go through the motions with the assurance that he has already signed a pro contract and is earmarked for a spot in the Dallas Stars system. Maybe that's the sign of a mature player who isn't about to rest on his laurels?


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Interesting info on Tassone.

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Scott Glennie scored 3 assists in a 4-1 win for his side during the Brandon Wheat Kings intrasquad game.

After the game, the Wheat Kings cut their roster to 34. I don't know how any kids they keep, but I'm rooting for 17 year old Wheaton King. The guy was born to play in Brandon ..... lol.

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Tyler Beskorowany's team (Kingston) won their first preseason game 5-2. Beskorowany started, but I don't know how many goals he let in or how many shots he faced. I assume he only played half the game.

Tomas Vincour’s team (Edmonton) won their first 2 games in a preseason tournament. They have another game going on right now. Vincour hasn’t scored any of the goals, and no other information is available. I’m not even sure he played the 2 games. I can’t even find a camp roster to confirm he’s in camp. I assume he is since he will play with Dallas at the Traverse Tournament.

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