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03-30-2004, 03:59 PM
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TOP 5 Finishers in the League.

Not talking about standings here- What's the TOP 5 in regards to which players in the league right now are the best at FINISHING scoring chances?
All types of scoring chances, one-timers, breakaways, 2 on 1's etc...combine all the factors and create your TOP 5.

Who finishes the job?


1. Havlat
2. Kovalchuk
3. Hejduk
4. Naslund
5. Nash*

*until he proves me otherwise.

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03-30-2004, 04:10 PM
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i don't get it. technically shouldn't Iginla be in there? he's got 39, therefore he's about 4-8 goals better at finishing than some guys on your list, like Duke or Havlat...what's the point of this?

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03-30-2004, 04:13 PM
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Rick Nash
Ilya Kovalchuk
Jarome Iginla
Patrik Elias
Milan Hejduk

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The point is to voice your opinion as to who is the most lethal goal scorers, not just list the TOP 5 current goal scoring leaders.

IMO Havlat is a better finisher in general, good shot, great moves on breakaway, can set up in the slot and in the crease. I don't think Iginla has as much diversity in his offensive game. Maybe I shouldn't have put Nash on there but I thought that would be somewhat disrespectfull considering he's leading the pack, he really shouldn't be on there.

My Honest TOP 5:

1. Havlat
2. Kovalchuk
3. Hejduk
4. Naslund
5. Sakic

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03-30-2004, 04:18 PM
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Heatley
Kovalchuk(never misses on a breadaway)
Hejduk
Sakic
Nash

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03-30-2004, 04:31 PM
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1.Kovalchuk
2.Hejduk
3.Havlat
4.Nash
5.Hull

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Andrew Peters deserves honorable mention. Y'all see him finish that breakaway on the empty net??! Mofo's form was flawless!

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So in other words....who has the best shooting percentage of those players with a minimum number of shots? That's the best stat to look at to answer your question. I'll just save everyone some time. Here's where this thread is headed:

John: Havlat is the best even if his numbers aren't as good. He missed time to a contract hold out and his suspension.

Carl: are you crazy? Nash is way better. Havlat's not even the best on his own team

John: Nash is better than Havlat? No way, teams just haven't realized how good he is. Wait until next year and you'll see his numbers drop because teams will focus on him (if there is a season next year). Also, Havlat is the 3rd line RW on his team. Imagine how good he'd be with 1st line ice time.

Carl: So the fact that Havlat plays on one of the best teams and Nash plays on one of the worst teams is meaningless? Come on. You're such a homer, and your bias shines through in each of your posts.

John: Have you even seen Havlat play this year? Your an idiot.

Carl: I'm an idiot? You're the one shooting your mouth off and yet your posts are littered with grammatical errors. Come back when you have something to offer.

MOD: if you want to argue and call each other names, do it in a PM, otherwise this thread will be closed.

John: You are obviously blinded by your bias against the Senators. Figures.

Carl: It doesn't matter anyway. The Senators are going to lose in the first round to Toronto anyway. If Havlat was the best finisher in the league then maybe Ottawa would have a chance. Hahaha! Too bad suckaaaaaaaa!

MOD: ok, you guys need to cool off. Thread closed.

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So in other words....who has the best shooting percentage of those players with a minimum number of shots? That's the best stat to look at to answer your question. I'll just save everyone some time. Here's where this thread is headed:

John: Havlat is the best even if his numbers aren't as good. He missed time to a contract hold out and his suspension.

Carl: are you crazy? Nash is way better. Havlat's not even the best on his own team

John: Nash is better than Havlat? No way, teams just haven't realized how good he is. Wait until next year and you'll see his numbers drop because teams will focus on him (if there is a season next year). Also, Havlat is the 3rd line RW on his team. Imagine how good he'd be with 1st line ice time.

Carl: So the fact that Havlat plays on one of the best teams and Nash plays on one of the worst teams is meaningless? Come on. You're such a homer, and your bias shines through in each of your posts.

John: Have you even seen Havlat play this year? Your an idiot.

Carl: I'm an idiot? You're the one shooting your mouth off and yet your posts are littered with grammatical errors. Come back when you have something to offer.

MOD: if you want to argue and call each other names, do it in a PM, otherwise this thread will be closed.

John: You are obviously blinded by your bias against the Senators. Figures.

Carl: It doesn't matter anyway. The Senators are going to lose in the first round to Toronto anyway. If Havlat was the best finisher in the league then maybe Ottawa would have a chance. Hahaha! Too bad suckaaaaaaaa!

MOD: ok, you guys need to cool off. Thread closed.
So I guess you're assuming that you're "John" and some other poster is "Carl", why would this thread have to turn into a pissing contest?? Maybe if you got involved.

Not sure what you're thinking.

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03-30-2004, 04:58 PM
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I'm a big fan of Havlat's but he's not top 5, there's a reason why other teams key on Alfie and Hossa before him.

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...why would this thread have to turn into a pissing contest?? Maybe if you got involved.

Not sure what you're thinking.
There's no need to be so sensitive about this because this wasn't a personal attack on your thread, and by extension, a knock on you. But thanks for helping prove my point.

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03-30-2004, 05:42 PM
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Quote:
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I'm a big fan of Havlat's but he's not top 5, there's a reason why other teams key on Alfie and Hossa before him.
IMO, Havlat's a better finisher than either of them. In fact, even though he has the most goals, I might rank Hossa 3rd.

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Kovalchuk
Naslund
Sakic
Iginla
Hejduk

There are a ton of other people who could be here but these are the 5 that stick out and do it consistently.

Nash, Datsyuk, etc. have 1 year so far, they haven't gained consistency like the above 5 have.

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Using goals, goals per game and shot percentage as a guide, here are some candidates for 'top five finisher':

99 SOG Parrish (22g, 0.39gpg, 22.2%)
79 SOG Forsberg (17g, 0.47gpg, 21.5%)
117 SOG Tanguay (25g, 0.36gpg, 21.4%)
120 SOG Roberts (28g, 0.4gpg, 23.3%)
129 SOG Morrow (25g, 0.32gpg, 19.4%)
134 SOG Datsyuk (30g, 0.41gpg, 22.4%)
158 SOG Lang (29g, 0.42gpg, 18.4%)
168 SOG Cheechoo (28g, 0.36gpg, 16.7%)
171 SOG Havlat (30g, 0.46gpg, 17.5%)
208 SOG St. Louis (35g, 0.44gpg, 16.8%)
253 SOG Nash (40g, 0.52gpg, 15.8%)

I'll leave it up to others to winnow or add to this list.

Any surprises? (I was shocked by a couple of them!)

For fun here are some of the other names mentioned for comparison:

77 SOG Heatley (12g, .42gpg, 15.6%)
196 SOG Hull (25g, .33gpg, 12.8%)
225 SOG Alfredsson (32g, .43gpg, 14.2%)
227 SOG Hossa (34g, .44gpg, 15%)
228 SOG Hejduk (35g, .44gpg, 15.4%)
245 SOG Sakic (32g, .41gpg, 13.1%)
247 SOG Iginla (39g, .5gpg, 15.8%)
285 SOG Naslund (33g, .44gpg, 11.6%)
289 SOG Elias (37g, .47gpg, 12.8%)
324 SOG Kovalchuk (39g, .49gpg, 12%)

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IMO, Havlat's a better finisher than either of them. In fact, even though he has the most goals, I might rank Hossa 3rd.
I agree with that too. If Havlat has a breakaway or a great chance...he usually scores. Hossa, I find, is a little poor on breakaways whereas Havlat dekes and picks the spot perfectly ( yesterday night was a prime example)

kovalchuk, havlat, hossa, hejduk and iginla are my picks.

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03-30-2004, 06:03 PM
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1. Kovalchuk
2. Naslund
3. Jagr
4. Heatley
5. Elias

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I'll do my rankings:

1. Kovalchuk
2. Naslund
3. Jagr
4. Hejduk
5. Havlat

Close: Elias, Iginla, Heatley, Nash

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03-30-2004, 06:21 PM
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Kovalchuk
Hejduk
Iginla
Naslund

#5 is a toss up Hossa, Nash, Heatley Elias, Vinny........

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Anyone who said Naslund should have their head(s) examined. I mean really....it's not like the guy has led the league in goals over the last four years or anything.....errr I mean, what has he done lately? I think Morrow is far superior to Naslund as his shooting percentage clearly shows.

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I think Morrow is far superior to Naslund as his shooting percentage clearly shows.
You'd probably be in the minority, since Naslund's shooting percentage is nearly 15% over four years.

From the numbers this season, though, on any list of finishers (ie players who regularly convert scoring chances) you'd have to give Morrow a look as well.

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Ginner said it, but I'll say it again:

Naslund has more goals than anyone in the league over the last 4 years. Yet some people don't even have him in the top 5? .. craziness.

Iginla should absolutely be on the list too. If there's any one other player whom I think could be a better pure goal scorer than Naslund, it's probobly Iginla. Kovalchuk is close too.

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I agree with that too. If Havlat has a breakaway or a great chance...he usually scores. Hossa, I find, is a little poor on breakaways whereas Havlat dekes and picks the spot perfectly ( yesterday night was a prime example)

kovalchuk, havlat, hossa, hejduk and iginla are my picks.
Agreed. Havlat is excellent on breakaways..he's one guy you can rely on to always get the job finished.

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Using goals, goals per game and shot percentage as a guide, here are some candidates for 'top five finisher':

99 SOG Parrish (22g, 0.39gpg, 22.2%)
79 SOG Forsberg (17g, 0.47gpg, 21.5%)
117 SOG Tanguay (25g, 0.36gpg, 21.4%)
120 SOG Roberts (28g, 0.4gpg, 23.3%)
129 SOG Morrow (25g, 0.32gpg, 19.4%)
134 SOG Datsyuk (30g, 0.41gpg, 22.4%)
158 SOG Lang (29g, 0.42gpg, 18.4%)
168 SOG Cheechoo (28g, 0.36gpg, 16.7%)
171 SOG Havlat (30g, 0.46gpg, 17.5%)
208 SOG St. Louis (35g, 0.44gpg, 16.8%)
253 SOG Nash (40g, 0.52gpg, 15.8%)

I'll leave it up to others to winnow or add to this list.

Any surprises? (I was shocked by a couple of them!)

For fun here are some of the other names mentioned for comparison:

77 SOG Heatley (12g, .42gpg, 15.6%)
196 SOG Hull (25g, .33gpg, 12.8%)
225 SOG Alfredsson (32g, .43gpg, 14.2%)
227 SOG Hossa (34g, .44gpg, 15%)
228 SOG Hejduk (35g, .44gpg, 15.4%)
245 SOG Sakic (32g, .41gpg, 13.1%)
247 SOG Iginla (39g, .5gpg, 15.8%)
285 SOG Naslund (33g, .44gpg, 11.6%)
289 SOG Elias (37g, .47gpg, 12.8%)
324 SOG Kovalchuk (39g, .49gpg, 12%)

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snipers tend to shoot from anywhere, lowering the shooting percentage. Centres tend to pass more, and shoot only when a good chance is there increasing their shooting percentage. Shooting percentage is the most useless player stat there is. goals per game would be better to use.

Naslund and Hejduk are a class above. They have proved it over a few years, and Naslund has the most goals over the past 3 or 4 years.
Hossa
Nash
Iginla
Kovalchuk

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1) Naslund - He doesn't have more goals in the last four years than anyone else for nothing.
2) Iginla
3) Hejduk
4) Kovalchuk
5) Hossa

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Over the past four seasons.

Naslund: 162 Goals
Iginla: 157 Goals

The rest of the guys seem a level or so below these guys, I don't think any list is complete without both Iginla and Naslund.

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