Well, Tallon ended up putting an extra 4 mil cap hit by his blunder with Versteeg and Barker .... That looked really bad and was obviously the last straw...
Well, Tallon ended up putting an extra 4 mil cap hit by his blunder with Versteeg and Barker .... That looked really bad and was obviously the last straw...
I should be excited about this team...and I'm not. I was so happy when Bill Wirtz's dayuys as owner of this team were over. I thought that his son, with all he set out to do, was going to turn this around. And now...it seems like it's just the same ****, different Wirtz. In our most successful season in forever, we fired Savard, fired Tallon, hired a Cubs marketing guy, and had Dudley resign. Even when this team is improving, it can't seem to get out of its own way. I just have a real uneasy feeling in my stomach right now.
I should be excited about this team...and I'm not. I was so happy when Bill Wirtz's dayuys as owner of this team were over. I thought that his son, with all he set out to do, was going to turn this around. And now...it seems like it's just the same ****, different Wirtz. In our most successful season in forever, we fired Savard, fired Tallon, hired a Cubs marketing guy, and had Dudley resign. Even when this team is improving, it can't seem to get out of its own way. I just have a real uneasy feeling in my stomach right now.
Maybe I'm missing something...How does getting rid of a guy who was the GM when Bill Wirtz was running the show equate to "the same ****"?
Also, I started a poll on this in the main forum. I think it'll be an interesting debate as to whether he should have been axed, and if so whether it was the right time.
The timing of this surprises me. I was not a fan of some of the signings and contracts that DT gave out over the past few years, but still. Over the past two years this team has made huge strides and most everyone was surprised and pleased with our results this past regular season and playoffs. No one was predicting us in the WCF. So it seems a bit off to fire a guy who's team just exceeded all of our expectations.
DT might be being made of bit of a patsy for this RFA crap, I am not sure.
Either way, I hope Stan takes this team to the next level, and brings the cup back to Chicago!
While I'm not surprised at the move, I am a little surprised at the timing of it. I think Stan has been groomed for this for a while (like it or not). Just that the timing seems off to do it now, versus after the season ends so the new GM can work on his changes before free agency/drafts, etc.
Dale pulled a lot of boneheaded mistakes, but has had some good changes to the team. I think he gets another shot somewhere.
I was surprised at the timing of the news, not really the fact he was canned. It's not really a bad thing to have the Bowman's running your organization.
I just think they wanted to get someone new in, and quick. The situation that Chicago is in seems really rough. Over $4 mil over the cap, and Kane, Toews, and Keith are RFA's next season.
Moves need to be made. I'm not a Chicago fan, but I don't envy what Hawk fans must be thinking. Kane, Toews, and Keith are mandatory, aren't they? They would be for me, at any rate. And it's not like they are cheap signings. Even with a hometown discount, you've got to expect a minimum of 3 mil a piece, and possibly much more.
Chicago is vulnerable, and they need to dump salary. Any moves they make are unlikely to get any decent return, because GM's are going to be more than willing to take advantage of this situation.
Ahh, that sucks for him... He does recognize that in the end it is his responsibility but to have a colleague mess that up for you is really rough to take... I'm glad he's been reassigned.
This blunder is going to cost the hawks next year when it comes to re-signing Kane and Toews though..
martinhavlat I guess everyone saw what happened to Dale....yes, the story is starting to come out but it's just the tip of the iceberg
martinhavlat Lot's of people are telling me to stay quiet but shouldn't the fans know the truth? It's your loyalty, season ticket money and emotions here
martinhavlat Just so everyone begins to understand, Dale was like a 2nd father to me.
martinhavlat By telling truth, don't want people to think I'm bitter. Everyone in Minn has been awesome, they believe in me and I won't let them down
Certainly a very curious situation, no real point speculating until someone comes out and starts talking, and with Tallon still working for the team that doesn't seem too likely.
Am I the only one that doesn't care what Martin Havlat thinks?
We signed Hossa because he is a safer bet to stay healthy. I doubt Havlat makes it thru his contract. I would have been absolutely pissed if we gave Havlat the deal he got from Wild. For all his talk about loyalty. How come he didn't throw us a bone and take a deep discount given how Hawks stood by him and paid him top tier money only for 1 full season of play?
Isn't it likely Tallon's loyalty to his players was a major issue here.
He wanted Havlat over Hossa from accounts because Havlat was his guy. Given his injuries I dont see how a long term deal was even feasible unless he would have take a deep discount (Something he didn't seem to want to do)
Wouldn't it be better to look around league and try to move Versteeg and replace him with younger options (Aliu or Makarov)?
Boy if I'm the Wild, I wonder what is up with this guy and his *****y Twits about his former team. From the point of view of how it relates to the Chicago Blackhawks going forward ..in that sense I agree entirely with BWC.
I also remember how the pre-this Wirtz Hawks made room for Mike Keenan by shoving aside Bob Murdoch- so the management purge isn't entirely unprecedented.
I don't blame Havlat at all for being upset. He loved it here and really wanted to stay... However, how childish of him tweeting bitter messages. If I was Wild management or his agent I'd tell him to knock that crap off.
Am I the only one that doesn't care what Martin Havlat thinks?
We signed Hossa because he is a safer bet to stay healthy. I doubt Havlat makes it thru his contract. I would have been absolutely pissed if we gave Havlat the deal he got from Wild. For all his talk about loyalty. How come he didn't throw us a bone and take a deep discount given how Hawks stood by him and paid him top tier money only for 1 full season of play?
Exactly! Havlat can talk about loyalty and all that garbage all he wants, but give me a break. The only thing that matters is money. If you look at his contract situation logically, you HAVE to consider the fact that he was hurt more than healthy during his time here. The obvious decision would be to sign him to a short-term deal. He's being the typical egocentric professional athlete, and thinks that playing one (almost) full season should warrant him a big money, long contract. He's entitled to say whatever he wants, but it's annoying that he is posting this cryptic melodrama on his Twitter account about "loyalty" regarding a contract dispute in 2009 professional sports. I loved Havlat last season and it was a treat to watch him, but please, all parties need to get over it and move on. Like I've said before, everyone needs to reach back in their memories and remember when he was signed to that big ass contract and barely even played. Good luck Minnesota, but more likely than not he will get hurt again, and that's why we didn't resign him to a long contract.
Hossa is clearly an upgrade over Havlat in every possible way. And everyone complaining about the contract, do you REALLY think he's actually going to be here for 12 years? Despite the personal feelings regarding Havlat, we got the better end of the deal in more ways than one.
What is with the timing of this. They get a new GM after they go through free agency? Uhhhh alright. Something's up here, and we're going to find out what it is soon enough.
Marion Hossa - Good contract and good replacement for Havlat
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I would have to disagree. The only two people in the NHL I think you have a sure bet giving a 12 year contract to are Crosby and Ovechkin. I think in a couple years Blackhawk fans are going to be wondering why in the hell did we give Hossa a 12 year contract.
