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03-30-2004, 05:30 PM
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Anyway, about the comparison with Modano, Roenick and the era they're playing it,they both had some pretty high scoring years in the early 90s, just like LaFontaine did. It's not like they entered the league in 1997, they played in the same era as LaFontaine for a lot of years, and themselves enjoyed the high scoring NHL days.
I disagree.

Lafontaine had 10 years in the higher scoring era and 2 in the lower

Roenick and Modano have had 5 lower and 10 higher.

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03-30-2004, 05:44 PM
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Zach Parise!

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03-30-2004, 05:59 PM
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No love for Phil Housely?

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No love for Phil Housely?

No doubt he is my choice for sure...all these young punks forget how dominant he was. Laffy or Housley, followed by Leetch, Modano and Roenick. If we are counting Brett Hull then he gets the #1 spot, but otherwise Housley.

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03-30-2004, 06:42 PM
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Will Rick Dipietro become the best ever American goalie???!

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I can't believe nobody mentioned Dave Andreychuk.

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1-Brian Leetch
2-Mike Modano
3-Chris Chelios
4-Pat Lafontaine
5-Jeremy Roenick

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1. Pat Lafontaine
2. Brian Leetch
3. Mike Modano
4. Chris Chelios
5. Keith Tkachuk

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I can't believe nobody mentioned Dave Andreychuk.
Andreychuk is from Hamilton.

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Andreychuk is from Hamilton.

My bad, I thought he was from the states.

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Tom Barrasso - not the best EVER, but certainly deserves mention.


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03-30-2004, 08:15 PM
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a good argument can be made for lafontaine, leetch, and chelios, but i think it goes to modano. an offensive superstar and a player who changed his game drastically to improve his team.

this opens up the other can of worms as to who will go down in history as having been better, chelios or leetch?

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03-30-2004, 08:39 PM
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All Time American All Star Team (among players I saw play)

Hull Modano Tkachuk
Mullen Lafontaine Leclair
Amonte Roenick Guerin
Carpenter N.Broten D.Christian

Chelios Leetch
Langway D.Hatcher
Housley K.Hatcher (if Mark Howe is considered American, switch K.Hatcher with him)

Richter
Barrasso

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03-30-2004, 08:40 PM
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Why are people writing off Brett Hull? Cause his dad was Bobby Hull and he was Canadian?

If that's the case then the Americans should claim Gordie Howe. His parents were Americans who moved up to Saskawetan.

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If that's the case then the Americans should claim Gordie Howe. His parents were Americans who moved up to Saskawetan.
Seriously

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Why are people writing off Brett Hull? Cause his dad was Bobby Hull and he was Canadian?

If that's the case then the Americans should claim Gordie Howe. His parents were Americans who moved up to Saskawetan.
Hull was born and raised in canada.

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He's probably not the greatest, but I believe Neal Broten deserves mention. I believe he was the first American player to bag 100+ points in a season, he won a gold medal, a Stanley Cup, and an NCAA crown. He was a trailblazer, and played in an era when there weren't all that many yanks in the NHL. He finished with 923 points, which aint too shabby.

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03-30-2004, 09:01 PM
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i am the biggest richter fan but he is not on the level of those guys.. greatest american goaltender? sure if not absolutely, greatest american player? no... leetch on the same team was head and shoulders better and is one of the greatest defenseman of all time

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03-30-2004, 09:02 PM
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Hull was born and raised in canada.
Wasn't he born in America and raised in Canada?

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All Time American All Star Team (among players I saw play)

Hull Modano Tkachuk
Mullen Lafontaine Leclair
Amonte Roenick Guerin
Carpenter N.Broten D.Christian

Chelios Leetch
Langway D.Hatcher
Housley K.Hatcher
was just thinking, those north stars that made the finals had at least four of those guys!

i was really rooting for them.

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03-30-2004, 09:04 PM
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Wasn't he born in America and raised in Canada?
nope, born and raised in canada.

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Wasn't he born in America and raised in Canada?
He was born in Belleville Ontario Canada.

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03-30-2004, 09:11 PM
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Lafontaine in his prime was the best american player i've seen.

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Joe Mullen, but that's only because I'm not considering active players at the moment.

I'd say Leetch after he retires

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"LW"

Player Name -- FIRST -- LAST -- GAMES -- GOALS -- AST -- PTS -- ADJUST. PTS
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tkachuk Keith -- 1991-92 -- 2002-03 -- 781 -- 398 -- 363 -- 761 -- 781
Leclair John -- 1990-91 -- 2002-03 -- 798 -- 359 -- 347 -- 706 -- 730
Stevens Kevin -- 1987-88 -- 2001-02 -- 874 -- 329 -- 397 -- 726 -- 648
Carpenter Bobby -- 1981-82 -- 1998-99 -- 1178 -- 320 -- 408 -- 728 -- 584
Granato Tony -- 1988-89 -- 2000-01 -- 774 -- 248 -- 244 -- 492 -- 442

"C"

Player Name -- FIRST -- LAST -- GAMES -- GOALS -- AST -- PTS -- ADJUST. PTS
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Modano Mike -- 1988-89 -- 2002-03 -- 1025 -- 444 -- 618 -- 1062 -- 1005
Roenick Jeremy -- 1988-89 -- 2002-03 -- 1062 -- 456 -- 617 -- 1073 -- 1002
Lafontaine Pat -- 1983-84 -- 1997-98 -- 865 -- 468 -- 545 -- 1013 -- 847
Weight Doug -- 1990-91 -- 2002-03 -- 837 -- 210 -- 553 -- 763 -- 736
Broten Neal -- 1980-81 -- 1996-97 -- 1099 -- 289 -- 634 -- 923 -- 727


"RW"

Player Name -- FIRST -- LAST -- GAMES -- GOALS -- AST -- PTS -- ADJUST. PTS
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mullen Joe -- 1979-80 -- 1996-97 -- 1062 -- 502 -- 561 -- 1063 -- 864
Amonte Tony -- 1990-91 -- 2002-03 -- 933 -- 372 -- 403 -- 775 -- 773
Young Scott -- 1987-88 -- 2002-03 -- 1049 -- 316 -- 376 -- 692 -- 665
Christian Dave -- 1979-80 -- 1993-94 -- 1009 -- 340 -- 433 -- 773 -- 589
Guerin Bill -- 1991-92 -- 2002-03 -- 797 -- 281 -- 273 -- 554 -- 568


"DEF"

Player Name -- FIRST -- LAST -- GAMES -- GOALS -- AST -- PTS -- ADJUST. PTS
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Housley Phil -- 1982-83 -- 2002-03 -- 1495 -- 338 -- 894 -- 1232 -- 1039
Leetch Brian -- 1987-88 -- 2002-03 -- 1072 -- 227 -- 718 -- 945 -- 854
Chelios Chris -- 1983-84 -- 2002-03 -- 1326 -- 176 -- 717 -- 893 -- 761
Suter Gary -- 1985-86 -- 2001-02 -- 1145 -- 203 -- 642 -- 845 -- 717
Hatcher Kevin -- 1984-85 -- 2000-01 -- 1157 -- 227 -- 450 -- 677 -- 596
Howe Mark -- 1979-80 -- 1994-95 -- 929 -- 197 -- 545 -- 742 -- 554
Larson Reed -- 1976-77 -- 1989-90 -- 904 -- 222 -- 463 -- 685 -- 513
Schneider Mathieu -- 1987-88 -- 2002-03 -- 914 -- 154 -- 352 -- 506 -- 480
Ellett Dave -- 1984-85 -- 1999-00 -- 1129 -- 153 -- 415 -- 568 -- 462
Iafrate Al -- 1984-85 -- 1997-98 -- 799 -- 152 -- 311 -- 463 -- 364


"G"

GOALIE NAME -- FIRST -- LAST -- GAMES -- WIN
--------------------------------------------------------
Vanbiesbrouck John -- 1981-82 -- 2001-02 -- 882 -- 374
Barrasso Tom -- 1983-84 -- 2002-03 -- 777 -- 369
Richter Mike -- 1988-89 -- 2002-03 -- 666 -- 301
Brimsek Frankie -- 1938-39 -- 1949-50 -- 514 -- 252
Hebert Guy -- 1991-92 -- 2000-01 -- 491 -- 191
Casey Jon -- 1983-84 -- 1996-97 -- 425 -- 170

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