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03-30-2004, 10:06 PM
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I'd say Joe Mullen and Phil Housely..

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03-30-2004, 10:16 PM
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Eeewwwwwwww, Dave Ellett.... yuck!

When I hear that name, it takes me back to the Jamie Macoun, Mike Ridley, Mike Craig days.

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Mullen doesn't sniff the top 5. Borderline top 10.
Really? Only American with 500+ goals, 2 cups (proven playoff performer). Gotta disagree with you on that one. Number one? Maybe not, but in his prime, no question he's top 5.

I tend to think first of playoff performers, so I'd go with Leetch, Modano, Hull, Mullen and Chelios.

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03-30-2004, 10:37 PM
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I'd have to go Mullen as top forward, Housley as top pretend defenseman (seriously though, did this guy ever rush the puck? ). Between the two they've set some pretty high bars. I like Housley myself, as Mullen used to play on the Flames (you know how that goes...), but 500+ goals is pretty rediculous!

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03-30-2004, 10:50 PM
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As much as I like Brian Leetch I have to go with Chris Chelios. Three time Norris Trophy winner, and named one of the top fifty players of all time by THN. Has brought a mixture of toughness and skill that few have ever had from the blueline. Add in his dedication and willingness to play much bigger than his size seals the deal for me. My top ten (and yes I consider Brett Hull an American):


1) Chris Chelios
2) Brett Hull
3) Brian Leetch
4) Pat Lafontaine
5) Mike Modano
6) Rod Langway
7) Mike Richter
8) Jeremy Roenick
9) Neal Broten
10) Phil Housley

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03-30-2004, 11:30 PM
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Wasn't he born in America and raised in Canada?
Well, I gues he was born and raised here. But his mom was American and he played in US college. So whatever.

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03-30-2004, 11:32 PM
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I've always liked Mike Modano the best. He may not be the number 1 american born player of all-time, but he is surely my favorite out of the USA.

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03-30-2004, 11:34 PM
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I would put Leetch in the top 10 at about 8th or 9th. Never saw why people thought he was so great. Average stickhandler, good passer, average skater at best...I guess I don't get it about him.
It hurts deeply to hear that...and he's only played for my team for a little while...whats that sound I hear...the breaking of Rangers fans hearts.

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03-30-2004, 11:57 PM
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Well, I gues he was born and raised here. But his mom was American and he played in US college. So whatever.
He also played his junior A hockey in British Columbia. He wouldn't be playing for the States if Canada hadn't cut him way back when.

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03-31-2004, 12:13 AM
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Forward - Lafontaine

Defense - Housley

Goalie - Richter

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03-31-2004, 02:56 AM
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Mike Modano..

His consistency, perseverance, sportsmanship and dedication to American hockey while also putting Dallas on the hockey map with 3 Stanley Cup appearances is something no American forward has achieved. He's also the most complete American (forward) to ever play the game.. And I have a soft spot for complete players, so hence my decision.

Hull is no American, Lafontaine is a no-go because of his injury proneness (word?). Chris Chelios is a good pick, and he won a lot, but he also had the fortune to play for 3 Cup contenders. Mike Modano started a putrid franchise and made it into an elite team within 5 seasons.

Interesting that you say Leetch though, Leef Alcoholic.. Untill you got him, I never ever heard you talk about him and untill last week, you never even realised he also was pretty decent in his own zone.

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one of these 3.

Lafontaine, Leetch or Modano.


sorry, forgot Chelios, one of those 4.
I say Chelios.

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03-31-2004, 03:06 AM
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Interesting that you say Leetch though, Leef Alcoholic.. Untill you got him, I never ever heard you talk about him and untill last week, you never even realised he also was pretty decent in his own zone.
Yes, the timing of this thread is impeccable.

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03-31-2004, 04:16 AM
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Chelios was the most dominant player. He was the BEST defenseman for many years fighting Bourque for that nod step for step, and I dont think that can be said for Leetch to the same extent.

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03-31-2004, 07:07 AM
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Really? Only American with 500+ goals, 2 cups (proven playoff performer). Gotta disagree with you on that one. Number one? Maybe not, but in his prime, no question he's top 5.

I tend to think first of playoff performers, so I'd go with Leetch, Modano, Hull, Mullen and Chelios.

Mullem was very consistant for a long period of time, but at his peak he wasn't close to the players that Roenick, Modano, Leetch, Chelios and LaFontaine were.

All the players mentioned above were top 5-10 NHL players at their peak.

Mullen was rarely a top 25 NHL player at his best.

I'm not trying to knock Mullen, but he just wasn't on the level of these other players.

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03-31-2004, 08:26 AM
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Mullem was very consistant for a long period of time, but at his peak he wasn't close to the players that Roenick, Modano, Leetch, Chelios and LaFontaine were.

All the players mentioned above were top 5-10 NHL players at their peak.

Mullen was rarely a top 25 NHL player at his best.

I'm not trying to knock Mullen, but he just wasn't on the level of these other players.
Good points... and an argument I often use when considering who should/should not be a Hall of Famer (see Mike Gartner). True, Mullen was never as flashy as guys like Modano or Roenick in their prime... but neither is Leclair and he similarly isn't getting a lot of respect in this thread (though he was better than any of the other forwards (Hull excepted?) for few year period in the 90's). I think top 25 might be a stretch... 86-89 era I think Mullen neared top 10. I do also think that some consideration has to be given to consistently strong performance over a career... remember, Gary Leeman was a 50 goal scorer at one point. Still, your point is taken.

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03-31-2004, 08:44 AM
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Keith Tkachuk is my favorite American player, so he's immediately my greatest American NHL player as well.

He was great a couple of years back but unfortunately his style of play and injuries has affected his greatness. He could have been a 40+ goal scorer for several years.

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03-31-2004, 08:49 AM
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Brett Hull is the greatest American player in my opinion, his name goes on with the greatest goal scores of all time, I don't understand how ppl don't even mention him in their top 5, here's my list:

1- Hull
2- LaFontaine
3- Chelios
4- Leetch
5- Modano

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03-31-2004, 08:55 AM
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Who is the greatest American NHL player of all-time?
Jeremy Roenick

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1. Mike Modano
2. Brian Leetch
3. Pat Lafontaine

Brett Hull was born in Canada

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03-31-2004, 09:00 AM
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1. Mike Modano
2. Brian Leetch
3. Pat Lafontaine

Brett Hull was born in Canada
But he's American not Canadian, the thread clearly says the best American player ever, not the best American born player.

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03-31-2004, 09:15 AM
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Richter's the one guy to represent us Pennsylvanians, so you gotta give him props.

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03-31-2004, 09:22 AM
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But he's American not Canadian, the thread clearly says the best American player ever, not the best American born player.
I think he has Dual Citzenship he is both Canadian and American. If you consider that then Gretzky would be the greatest American player.
1. Mike Modano
2. Brian Leetch
3. Jeremy Roenick
4. Pat Lafontaine


P.S. The 2003 draft class could have some great American players coming up also.
Suter, Brown, Parise

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03-31-2004, 09:31 AM
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I think he has Dual Citzenship he is both Canadian and American. If you consider that then Gretzky would be the greatest American player.
1. Mike Modano
2. Brian Leetch
3. Jeremy Roenick
4. Pat Lafontaine


P.S. The 2003 draft class could have some great American players coming up also.
Suter, Brown, Parise
Well I'm not talking about citzenships, I'm talking about players that represent their country, and Hull clearly represents the States, Wayne represents Canada.

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03-31-2004, 09:35 AM
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1- Hull
2- Lafontaine
3- Chelios
4- Leetch
5- Modano
6- Roenick
7- Mullen
8- Barasso
9- Richter
10- Tkachuk

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